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Re: [Autism-Mercury] Re: Virastop causes more yeast, why?

Just an FYI, Rx antivirals is *rarely* a short term therapy, chelation
or not. You also need to monitor titers and immune function the whole
time. And with Rx antivirals, you almost always need Rx antifungals
the entire time you are on them. I only know of a very select few
that didn't need Rx antifungals the entire time on antivirals. This
is due to the TH1/TH2 immune shift. One controls yeast while the
other controls the rest and with antivirals, you are switching to
"controlling the rest" so the ability to control yeast drops
dramatically. 3 months may not be long enough to even find the right
Rx antiviral that you need at the moment. I can't comment on naturals
so I have no idea if short term natural antivirals will work out.
Given the unrelenting nature of viruses, I can't imagine it would be
different, though.

I completely and totally agree that no matter what treatment you are
doing, you definitely need to weigh what's happening with what's worth
it. Certain things may be uncomfortable but nothing should ever be
outrageously crazy. We should never put our children through so much
discomfort that it's debilitating. If it's debilitating, it's not the
right thing to do.

Cheryl
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~@midian42~

On Jul 3, 2009, at 10:36 PM, iam2l84t wrote:

>
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Priscilla Tan
> <priscillasohsh@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you all for your sharing.
> >
> > So I should only introduce Virastop at a later point? Would adding
> virastop
> > 6 months after starting chelation be a good timing or should I
> wait longer?
>
> I agree with Rebecca here too. Everyone is different and it's up to
> parents to gage if the benefits outweigh the risk/discomfort of a
> particular treatment for the kids at a certain point. For my DD, I
> knew she was a viral kid but giving her any antivirals before
> reducing the metals load was disastrous. I would have had to use Rx
> antifungals and for a long term and even then, I'm not sure that I
> would have seen any benefits making it worthwhile. Now when I give
> her Virastop, we see great results and NOW I'm thinking that I will
> do a short-term antiviral therapy of Rx antivirals, Rx antifungals
> and the army of natural antivirals. I'm not sure if I'll do the Rx
> stuff, but since she is responding now and I've read that the Rx &
> naturals are complimentary, I'm considering it for a 3 month period
> to hopefully get rid of viruses.
>
> Try it & see what happens. If you see good results, can manage the
> side-effects and your child is OK then maybe it's the right time.
> Otherwise, it may be wiser to hold off and try again later.
>
> Monique
>
>
>



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... I agree with Rebecca here too. Everyone is different and it's up to parents to gage if the benefits outweigh the risk/discomfort of a particular treatment...
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Just an FYI, Rx antivirals is *rarely* a short term therapy, chelation or not. You also need to monitor titers and immune function the whole time. And with...
Cheryl Lowrance
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... From: Cheryl Lowrance ===>I can comment on natural antivirals with chelation. Ours had a negative experience with Rx antivirals, couldn't take them as...
Rebecca
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Jul 4, 2009
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I believe some parents use OLE, will using this have the same yeast problem? ... -- Priscilla [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Priscilla Tan
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... From: Priscilla Tan ===>Again, individual. Some react with yeast, for others it can help yeast. Really...trial and error. Rebecca I believe some parents...
Rebecca
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Jul 4, 2009
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I just wanted to comment, that we have been using virastop almost from the onset of chelation without too much of an overwhelming yeast issue. However, during...
iflow97
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Jul 6, 2009
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... From: iflow97 I just wanted to comment, that we have been using virastop almost from the onset of chelation without too much of an overwhelming yeast...
Rebecca
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Jul 6, 2009
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No need for a snide tone or nasty remarks about head spinning, Rebecca. We did not knowingly cause our child's healing crisis, you will note I stated that the...
iflow97
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Jul 6, 2009
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... From: iflow97 Also, as with chelators, every child's ability to tolerate antivirals is different, some can tolerate higher doses than others, some can...
Rebecca
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Jul 6, 2009
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Apparently, your opinion counts as the only opinion. Thought Andy was the only authority here. Good thing there are other folks here who voice their opinions...
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... Thank you for the vote of confidence, but I do think that there is a bit more expertise on the list than just mine, even if many more seem to feel like...
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... From: andrewhallcutler I really do hope people will listen to what I say because it makes sense, not because *I* say it, and similarly when someone else...
Rebecca
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Jul 6, 2009
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I just want to say, Andy, that we did some antivirals only during the stall period, because not much else was happening. I too do not believe in doing...
iflow97
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Jul 6, 2009
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... I think this is where bad doctoring comes in. "titers" is not used properly here. What is always monitored is IgG levels. This is the immune globulin...
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You stated that some can tolerate and some cant, what do you mean, can you tell by their reactions that they can or can't? Thanks, I am trying virastop on my...
Tara McMillan
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Jul 8, 2009
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... I eliminated molloscum here with lysine. Dana...
danasview
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I agree with Rebecca and my personal thoughts are that the kids cannot handle a lot of this stuff (like virastop, other supplements) because their guts are so...
Elizabeth
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Jul 6, 2009
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We have been doing antivirals for a while now....seeing good results...we did 40 rounds and stalled and started more antiviral and started seeing results...
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