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Re: NO cilantro. Digest Number 6929   Message List  
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Re: NO cilantro. Digest Number 6929

Michele, not to worry, I wasn't even beginning to think of cilantro
experimentation or suggest any of this, it was more of a thinking out
loud to see if anyone knows of any stats on populations from cultures
that use cilantro. It wasn't an attempt to convey a statistical
inference, just chatting.

Debi

--- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Michele <calif.michele@s...> wrote:
> Hi Debi,
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> >>>Do Mexican/Spanish/other nationalities who eat lots of cilantro
have lower autism rates?
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> I have no idea what the figures are for other nations and I do not
believe you could draw any conclusions from raw numbers alone. For
example, Mexico has less stringent environmental protection laws so
exposure to toxic substances tend to be higher. Also, you are talking
different gene pools and my best understanding is that autism results
from an interaction between genetic factors and environmental factors.
Not everyone who has metal poisoning ends up with the profile of
issues which leads to a diagnosis of autism or ASD, presumably due in
part to genetic differences. So comparing different gene pools
introduces a confounding factor that you cannot readily account for.
And that is just what I can think of off the top of my head as to why
comparing raw numbers like that would not be very meaningful.
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> >>>Is it possible a mom eating cilantro regularly might lower the
maternal mercury levels that could be passed on to baby?
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> If you are asking about eating cilantro DURING the pregnancy, that
could be an extremely dangerous thing to do which could actually
increase fetal exposure to mercury. I am no expert but people on this
list are very adamant that one should NOT have fillings removed (as
one example) while pregnant. So I would think that doing anything to
mobilize mercury while pregnant is an incredibly dangerous experiment
on your unborn child. Perhaps others on this list can state more
clearly that mobilizing mercury WHILE pregnant is known to be harmful.
I am not knowledgeable enough to state for sure one way or the other.
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> >>>If she breastfeeds, could that further prevent mercury poisoning?
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> My personal feeling is that cilantro by itself is insufficient (I
think it requires other supporting factors to promote excretion) and
my personal opinion is that this is part of why other people have
reported such negative experiences. Additionally, breast milk passes
SOME things but not others from mom to baby -- or so I understand it
(someone please correct me if I am wrong). So I have no idea if the
active ingredient would even pass to the baby. Even if it does get
passed to the baby, I can't imagine how you would estimate a "dose"
for the mom to consume for it to be a safe amount for the baby. I
think eating cilantro thinking it might help your breast-fed baby
would be a dangerous experiment.
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> In addition to my daily hot baths, I also think glyconutrients and
guafenisen (and other things, which I am not sure enough about to
name) helped make cilantro a safe, effective chelator for me. So I
think you are really oversimplifying my experience quite a bit to talk
about just "eating cilantro". If you cannot understand and quantify
the process, it can be extremely hit-or-miss and, thus, dangerous.
And your oversimplification of my comments makes me feel the need to
state more clearly that my comments were NOT intended to suggest one
can simply eat cilantro as "an easy answer":
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> Please note the title of the message I chose to respond to: NO
cilantro. I did not choose one of the other messages that were titled
"Cilantro". I chose the one titled "NO cilantro" because my intent
was to tell a cautionary tale: cilantro is a chelator, but no one on
this list can give you adequate instruction on how to use it safely.
The negative reports outnumber the positive ones. My experience was
not planned. I stumbled upon something which worked and have been
trying ever since to figure out why it worked. The fact that it
worked so very well in spite of my total ignorance puts it in the
category of either freakishly good luck or "a miracle". I cannot tell
you how to achieve the same result. PLEASE do not take my story as
encouragement to experiment with cilantro unless all of the better
known, safer methods have already failed you.
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I was able to eat cilantro before my amalgams came out. After they came out my iaomt DDS put me on cilantro drops, I tolerated them ok for about 2 months. Now...
Alison
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I made a little tea myself to trial cilantro; 6 tsp oragnic leaves brewed in hot water, then strained. After one day of 30cc every 4 hours, I was a mess. The...
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I thought I would weigh in here since it seems to me that my inquiries about cilantro a few months back kind of started this on-going debate (not saying it...
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Michele, thanks for the explanation. I really believe there's more than one way to skin our mercury cat, and glad to hear you found something that worked for...
Debi
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Sep 6, 2005
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... Michele, Thanks for sharing your story with us. I always appreciate your thoughtful posts and your attention to detail. I am wondering what happens when...
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Sep 7, 2005
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While I am making "corrections", let me note that my genetic disorder is also a confounding factor: as a general rule of thumb, I need between 1.5 and 2 times...
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Hi Debi, ... I have no idea what the figures are for other nations and I do not believe you could draw any conclusions from raw numbers alone. For example,...
Michele
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Sep 7, 2005
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Michele, not to worry, I wasn't even beginning to think of cilantro experimentation or suggest any of this, it was more of a thinking out loud to see if anyone...
Debi
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... Michele, Thanks for sharing your story with us. I always appreciate your thoughtful posts and your attention to detail. I am wondering what happens when...
Michele
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Update: After writing it all out last night and realizing that my recent symptoms were most likely from mercury redistribution, I took additional guafenisen...
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Debi, Thank you for clarifying. And let me now say that I was probably overreacting since, as I explained in a couple of other posts, I have been...
Michele
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Lol, don't you love those words from Scarlett? Debi ... overreacting since, as I explained in a couple of other posts, I have been inadvertently making myself...
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