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Re: Has anyone used Chlorella or Cilantro? Does Andy recommend?   Message List  
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Re: [Autism-Mercury] Re: Has anyone used Chlorella or Cilantro? Does Andy recommend?

Michelle,
How you have the time, the good spelling and the very good writing
that I do not have? ;-)
In a few words, cilantro WORKS!
I prescribe to my patients afflicted with mercury contamination, lead
contamination, and cooper contamination, just to mention a few
culprits of a bad feeling and diseases, and those eat LOTS of
cilantro.
We are talking to use half kilo (500 grams) of cilantro, blended
combined with some celery, orange juice and some salt (for flavor)
three times a day until they shows diarrhea, then reduce the intake to
half kilo one time a day.
They (My patients) report:
Improvement in visual acuity, hearing acuity, thinking, talking (All
of this neurological improvements)
Disappearing of depression, suicidal desires, and some report
returning of the libido after a long time of not sexual life... just
to mention a few psychological improvements.
ALL my patients says that they never will stop using cilantro.
Do you know that in Mexico, cilantro is used in almost ALL our meals?
That cilantro is used in great quantities every day at the Mexican
table? That no one restaurant in Mexico can be without cilantro?C'mon
boys! forget those reports of "toxicity" and do not be afraid of using
cilantro... (Half Mexico or 40 million people will be dead if cilantro
is toxic!)
Alex Torres M.D.


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:00:13 -0800 (PST), Michele
<calif.michele@...> wrote:
>
> I haven't used it in any kind of formal protocol, but, since last May, I
happen to have been eating regularly at an organic restaurant that spices its
food with cilantro. I have no tests or anything, so can't give you the kind of
feedback that you typically see on this list. And I wasn't even consciously
trying to treat mercury poisoning. I just knew I felt better on days when I ate
there and worse on days when I didn't. It was ony after I joined this list (in
November?) that I made the connection to mercury.
>
> As for "where to purchase", this is a site I have used for information only --
I haven't bought anything from them -- but they sell both cilantro and chlorella
(and I know absolutley nothing at all about chlorella).
http://kitchendoctor.com/articles/cilantro.html If you go that route, it seems
you will largely be performing an experiment. The website appears to have no
educational/informational materials to go with it, and this list has no
information on how to effectively and safely use it and for that reason (and
perhaps others) they recommend against it. I wouldn't personally recommend
against it because my experience is that, where available, herbs are generally
more effective with fewer harsh side effects than drugs and chemicals. In fact,
I have suggested privately to a couple of people that they might look into
cilantro because of adverse reactions to the standard treatment here (or similar
comments by them). But I would recommend against doing it without any kind of
> guidance and/or sufficient personal knowledge/research. And I don't know much
about chelation so I expect to be booed and hissed for posting this at all. :-)
>
> It seems to me that, unless you can find someone to guide your efforts to do
it differently (or have allergic reactions to the "standard" treatment
recommended by this list), it would be a gamble. I imagine folks here would
compare it to "playing Russian Roulette". Lest you get the idea that I just had
food with cilantro in it and that was "sufficient", I have been treating myself
(for 4+ years) for a different condition that nearly killed me and that doctors
never did properly diagnose (so I have a hypothesis as to what is wrong but no
official answers, verified by tests, etc). I did a lot of research and I have
been monitored for the last 2 1/2 years by a friend who used to be a registered
nurse and learned a great deal about alternative medicine due to family members
having chemical sensitivities, chronic health problems, etc. and unable to take
antibiotics and the like. A cornerstone of my self-treatments have been daily
hot baths -- timed and using a thermometer for many
> months to determine the most effective temperature, etc. Saunas have been
noted on this list as an effective treatment for mercury and I have heard that
heat may be necessary to mobilize toxins from fatty deposits. So I would have
to say, anecdotally, that my experience was a combination of eating cilantro and
then taking a hot salt-water bath afterwards, followed by wrapping up and
sweating.
>
> Last, let me note that the kind of experiment I have done on myself to try to
get well is not something I would do to another human being. It would be
irresponsible and more dangerous than what I have done to myself. I can monitor
my own body very closely by how I feel, etc -- much more so than I can monitor
another. I was literally dying and the doctors were not helping (and sometimes
suggested that what I really needed was a good psychiatrist). I had nothing to
lose. I am sure I harmed myself at times. My attitude was "If I die, it won't
matter if my liver is damaged or not." (etc) (Anything I have given my kids, I
tried on myself first.)
>
> However, I have noted that many people here are experimenting with different
approaches and a good many appear to have professional training (doctors,
nurses, etc) that give them the background to experiment -- like I did. If you
have sufficient background knowledge, take a cautious approach, and seek
feedback from others, I don't see anything wrong with experimenting. If you face
the kind of conundrum I had -- where doing the "known" thing meant certain death
and experimenting was a chance at living -- I highly recommend experimenting
(carefully and using appropriate methodologies, of course).
>
> Also, anyone who is pro-cilantro and who has any experience with it or
additional information sources, please contact me off-list with any information.
:-)
>
> Michele in California
>
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> http://www.califmichele.com
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> It is not so very important for a person to learn facts. For that he does not
really need a college. He can learn them from books. The value of an education
in a liberal arts college is not learning of many facts but the training of the
mind to think something that cannot be learned from textbooks.
> -Albert Einstein
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... Yes, I agree completely. Fortunately, my kids have never suffered nearly as much as I have -- it is a long story, but my kids are, to all appearances,...
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Michelle, How you have the time, the good spelling and the very good writing that I do not have? ;-) In a few words, cilantro WORKS! I prescribe to my patients...
Alex Torres
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... of ... severe ... Yes, this is very much a possibility. When I was first looking into foods etc that might chelate mercury, I talked to someone with...
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I think what Moria is saying "GENTLY, GENTLY" !! Julie ... From: moriamerri To: Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:42 PM Subject:...
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This is similar in character to the large number of fraudulent detox doctors who proclaim they have given 3,000 DMPS injections without a single problem,...
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In a few words, cilantro WORKS! I prescribe to my patients afflicted with mercury contamination, lead contamination, and cooper contamination, just to mention...
Mark Sircus Ac., OMD
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If you want some laboratory reports... I can scan them and you can use them Alex On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:38:32 -0300, Mark Sircus Ac., OMD...
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... Thank you for the compliment but I will assume that is "rhetorical" and we do not actually need to try to figure out "how I have the time...etc". :-) ... ...
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it is a powerful mercury chelator whose biochemistry is poorly understood, making its safe and effective use for mercury chelation difficult. I would think and...
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-->>Beigetable: The person who juiced half a kilo of cilantro and suffered from severe mercury poisoning, including halluncinations, as a result due to...
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... Andy . . . . . . . . .. . ... Andy, I do appreciate you and Moria jumping in here to advise caution and correct some things said by proponents of cilantro....
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... This is true, while his english is excellent, he may not appreciate some of the nuances of what he was saying. ... Dr. Torres is clearly neither stupid nor...
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To All From Me (Alex Torres) I never tought that my experiences would make that storm. Yes, English is a "try to speak" between tonges, and I beg your perdon ...
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Dr. Alex, I am wondering with the comsumption of Cilantro being so high in Mexico what the autism rates are? I know of a few children who are Mexican in my...
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You also don't know what the optimal dosing schedule for cilantro would be. Say it wwas 10 or 12 hours and people were eating high quality clinatro with most...
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Steve, Here in Mexico there is high incidence of autism as in USA. But the problem here is not chelating or chelating, the problem is autism, and if mercury...
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So the cilantro in the Mexican diet is not proving to be protective. Steve ... parts ... its...
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Dear Steve, Well, I think here in Mexico (go to INEGI.gob) there is a lot less of autism than in USA, maybe dut to the protection of the cilantro... think...
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... of autism ... TK--- I doubt that this is true, more likely less reported or well recognized. , maybe dut to the protection of the cilantro... think this:...
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Hi Michele, As an environmental studies major, I can tell you that Mexico's environmental regulations are not as strict as the U.S. Lots of factories on the...
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... Steve, Given the amount of environmental contamination in Mexico, it may, in fact, be proving to be effective. You cannot compare the two nations so...
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Or it could be making things worse through unnecessary redistribution. We just don't know. Because no research has been done on appropriate doisng intervals,...
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... I think that is unlikely because if that were true, then I expect they would have really dramatically worse rates -- which isn't what Alex Torres said (but...
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... said, "no research has been done on appropriate doisng intervals, we just don't know of the safest way to use cilantro", I think you cannot outright...
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... undo ... Michele, please please please if you do this, could you do me a HUGE favor and keep a list of post number for posts where someone reports on...
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my last word on cilantro to clarify matters: I was very enthusiastic about cilantro two years ago and very sceptical of Andy's concerns re this natural herb,...
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... I will remember for ever reading this testimony from a male adult about 2 years ago. I think it was on this list. He read about cilantro, bought a juicer...
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Natalie, doing this, using a juicier is not a good, correct way, First: You will need more than half kilo ( a pound more or less) of cilantro, in order to get...
Alex Torres
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To me, that comment suggests you are simply biased against cilantro and ready to dismiss it on the flimsiest excuse. That does not promote useful discussion. ...
Mark Sircus Ac., OMD
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... rather ignorant on this topic. It is way too early for me draw any conclusions. It is not too early for me to hypothesize connections between things so...
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