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Re: [Autism-Mercury] *TD-DMPS

OKAY...NOW I AM REALLY CONFUSED

I have not been at this site too much lately...so sorry if I am asking a
dumb question. It seems that what Buttar recommends is almost 180 degrees
opposite of what Cutler recommends. Is that the correct understanding?

One recommends no re-distribution and amalgam removel, and the other
recommends redistribution and keeping the amalgams in.

This is an interesting article and I chelated with DMSA for several months,
and now I am giving myself a break until I figure out what I am going to do
next.
My very being tells me that I HAVE to get the Hg out, and get it out
quick....some are telling me that THAT is also not a good idea.

Soooo.....Can anybody shed a little more light on any of this for me?

Thanks,
Inga





>
> Linda
>
> My frien Dana already made that job and I think everyone should read it to
> clear those questions and many more.
>
> here is a cut and paste of that:
>
> DefeatAutismYesterday.com-
>
> With Shared Knowledge…More Kids will Heal!!!
>
>
> Dr. Buttar (Boo-TAR)– Oct. 1st, 2004 DefeatAutismYesterday Conference
>
> 6:15-10:30pm
>
>
>
>
>
> Methods of Mercury Toxicity
>
> -breathing in toxic vapors
>
> -in utero-1 out of 8 women are mercury toxic because of amalgams and other
> things
>
> -Fish Industry is about 10% of the cause of mercury poisoning
>
> -Immunizations, epidurals, anesthesia
>
> -Lead and all other metals are not nearly as neurotoxic as mercury. Only
> Uranium and Plutonium are as toxic, yet they are not prevalent in our
> environment like mercury
>
> -Most of us suffer from CHRONIC mercury toxicity and it’s effects
>
> -Mercury is heavily correlated with Cancer and Heart disease patients
>
> -Cancer and heart disease account for 8 out of 10 deaths from all diseases,
> wars, illnesses, injuries combined
>
> -Autism is now 1 in 149 kids
>
> -Vaccines still have Mercury (Hg) because the pharmaceutical companies legally
> don’t have to tell you how much is in there during manufacturing. They are
> only required to tell you if they preserve it with mercury. So, plenty of
> mercury is still in the vaccines even if you read the label and it shows none.
>
> -Check for ongoing toxicity coming from the environment like where you live
> and the direction the wind blows. Is there combustion of fossil fuels even
> several hours away but the wind is blowing toward you?
>
> -There is no other substance, not vitamin deficiencies, lead, yeast, food
> allergies, etc. that could possibly cause a normally developing child who is
> speaking words by 11-12 months, to lose all speech and become autistic by
> 14-21 months. The only thing that could have caused this severe of brain
> damage is mercury (Hg.)
>
>
>
> Hepatitis B Vaccination
>
> -Useful for IV Drug Users, Prostitutes, and Health Care Providers
>
> -A person needs 3 shots to become immunized to anything
>
> -With Hep B, we need boosters because it only lasts 8-10 years
>
> -We give newborns a shot of Hep B in the first 12 hours of life
>
> -Therefore, are we really concerned that our baby will become an IV Drug User,
> Prostitute or even a Health Care Provider in the first 10 years of life when
> neurological development is so crucial?
>
>
>
> Biliary Tract
>
> -The biliary tract is God’s way of detoxing yourself. God put it in our
> bodies to have toxins, like heavy metals, move out that way. But, the biliary
> tract is NOT functional until after the first year of life, so our kids have
> no way of detoxing themselves until after age 1
>
> (I hear this over & over from all the Naturopathic…awesome doctors I have gone
> thru)
>
>
>
> TD-DMPS - misc. info
>
> Okay…Okay…Okay…I am going to say it hear & will say it to Dr Buttar (like I
> did during my interview with him in July) personally next week…When you read
> what is below, you need to remember…One of Dr Buttar’s specialties is removing
> toxins (esp. mercury) from the body. Because of that he has had great success
> with kids with autism. His specialty is not RECOVERING THE BRAIN once it is
> detoxed…SO DO NOT allow anything he says dissuade you if you have an older
> child! He is simply not willing to say he has arrived at complete recovery
> beyond the age of 9… yet, because he hasn’t had it happen…yet! This is where
> the work of Dr. Amy Yasko comes in (some of her fastest recoveries are with
> older children)…go to: AutismAnswer.com & read about RNA & special protocols
> (at a certain time in the healing process) to re-myelinate the damaged nerves.
> Then there are places like The Brain Institute & NACD.org who specialize in
> activities to heal the brain…& all kinds of other things…so Go Forth & Heal!
> & read on…
>
> -For severe cases of ASD, TD-DMPS is only effective for children under the age
> of 9 (for a complete cure). It has helped adults and will help everyone who
> is metal poisoned, especially mercury poisoned.
>
> -He has had children over the age of 11 with mild autism or adhd, recover
> completely
>
> -Viral Titres, allergies metabolic problems like thyroid disorders, which are
> common in our kids, immune system problems, are all from mercury poisoning
>
> -Kids on TD-DMPS tend to have growth spurts like crazy, like 2 of his patients
> who grew 6 inches in 6 months after getting rid of the poison in their bodies
>
> -Getting rid of the poison, gets rid of the symptoms of autism and the health
> problems too
>
> -Transdermal DMPS is a ratio of 4 parts glutathione to 1 part DMPS conjugated
> with amino acids (My understanding from Tom at College Pharmacy is that it is
> actually the amino acids that make up glutathione rather than glut itself)
>
> -The glutathione allows the sulfhydryl to work better and is really a great
> substance in general especially for chelation and is in every cell of our body
> and
>
> diminishes with old age (healthy elderly people are found to have more of it
> present in their cells)
>
> -You may see a worsening of behavior in an ASD child approximately 1-2 months
> into usage with DMPS, but you may also see improvement in social and speech
> areas. This improvement is evidence that it is working and you must keep the
> dose to as maximum as possible even with a rash because the rashes and
> behavior are temporary. If you stop usage, you will not start back where you
> left off.
>
>
>
> (one way to help keep the liver & kidneys functioning well is by adding
> homeopathics: Unda 2, 48, 458 or HEEL Detox) which should help limit
> exacerbations of behaviors & addressing methylation should help with this
> too!
>
>
>
> Autism Commonalities
>
> These kids are always:
>
> 1. Mercury Toxic
>
> 2. Extremely Bright (Gordon & Yasko say this too!)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Amalgams
>
> Each new filling is leaking 500 nanograms of mercury per day. Old fillings,
> even from 20-year old cadavers are leaking about 9 nanograms per day of
> mercury.
>
>
>
> Case Study – Karen
>
> Karen came in to Dr. Buttar and said she had seen 16 doctors and had been
> tested for everything and nobody could help her. She had a lot of pain,
> strange systemic problems, severe depression, headaches, etc. and said to Dr.
> Buttar while patting her purse, “If you can’t help me, I will help myself.”
> Not sure what was inside her purse – gun or maybe pills.
>
> Dr. Buttar said that he could definitely help her and that she was probably
> just poisoned with mercury (Hg). She said she had already been tested for
> mercury levels and had taken DMSA challenge tests and that she did not show
> high mercury levels. Her level of Hg was 2.3 at the time. She again asked
> Dr. Buttar if he was still sure that he could treat her? He made her sign an
> agreement that she would not try to kill herself and that they needed to try
> his protocol and they would find out in time if it was going to help her. He
> put Karen on TD-DMPS.
>
>
>
> Here’s the date and Karen’s Hg levels:
>
> Early year 2000 2.3
>
> March 2000 2.8
>
> October 2000 9.4
>
> March 2001 19 – her mercury level was high yet symptoms had
> diminished greatly
>
> October 2001 27 – She is almost symptom free at this point yet her
> mercury levels are off the chart
>
> Mid 2002 8.7 – Two and a half years into treatment, she has
> no symptoms and Hg levels are finally coming down but still elevated. She is
> still on TD-DMPS at this point.
>
>
>
> Summary: Karen had only one amalgam in her mouth but had worked in a chemical
> plant in her late 20’s and transported mysterious items in a truck and that is
> when her symptoms started to appear. Buttar believes she was exposed to high
> Hg levels at this job. She recovered completely on TD-DMPS for almost 3
> years.
>
>
>
> Abi (AB-ee) Buttar
>
> His son was born Jan. 1999, after he had given up on treating ASD kids in his
> practice because they were too difficult to treat. “God must have given me
> Abi so I could learn how to treat other children” and come up with this
> formula (TD-DMPS). Abi was diagnosed with autism and treated with TD-DMPS
> starting at age 3 and had no diet change. He was non-verbal, except for
> saying continually, “Day, Day, Day, Day.” Five months to chelation with
> TD-DMPS, Abi was talking full sentences. With hair analysis of his son, only
> arsenic, antimony, tin and nickel showed up. Mercury in fecal and urine at
> first testing was at a 1.9. This is typical of ASD kids on his protocol to
> show low levels of mercury naturally coming out because they cannot detox
> themselves. Normal kids have high levels of mercury in their hair and autistic
> kids have very low levels. During continuous chelation treatment, as those 4
> metals go up high and then come down, that is when the mercury levels first
> start to
> appear. As the mercury levels start going up, you must be consistent with the
> treatment! TD-DMPS was continued until the Hg levels spiked and then went
> all the way down. He now chelates his son for one month every year because of
> a flawed detoxification pathway that is evident in all children with ASD.
> ASD is not autism, it is mercury poisoning because our kids cannot detoxify
> themselves.
>
>
>
> -With DMPS oral, Abi’s Hg levels were off the charts as compared to when he
> used DMSA oral. There is a tremendous difference in how the two chelate.
>
>
>
> -Some parents quit the TD-DMPS chelating process after 2 months because of
> yeast flare-ups. The key to getting the mercury to come out and why my
> protocol works at all: is using it Continuously! If yeast shows up, then you
> treat it, but you keep the DMPS dosage as close to maximum as possible because
> it is the fire causing all the other problems. You must get the poison out so
> you can then see what is left and deal with the other problems that remain
> after eliminating the main one. You have no idea how much mercury is in a
> body until you remain on the protocol for a while. The other metals have to
> come out before the mercury will start to budge. If you quit, then you will
> not get to the mercury and you may not start back where you left off. He
> originally had to chelate his son every other day because of visitation rights
> during his nasty divorce from his ex-wife. However, in the process of healing
> his son, he did experiment with chelation every day and did not get the same
> results and pulled out less mercury than when he chelated every other day.
> This is because he believes the body has to redistribute the mercury and needs
> 48 hours to do it. You chelate a little bit out every 48 hours.
>
>
>
> AMT Pharmacy
>
> Dr. Buttar originally used College pharmacy owned by Tom----. College
> pharmacy followed Dr. Buttar’s protocol on making DMPS. Now, College
> pharmacy, located in North Carolina, is called AMT Pharmacy. (You can call
> AMT’s Melanie Gentile at (866) 828-8203 X156 or locally at (704) 892-1874
> (this is a fax # & as you can probably imagine they are incredibly busy so
> PLEASE be patient with them…ALSO, TO EXPEDITE YOUR ORDER in addition to the Rx
> make sure it contains: recipient shipping address, credit card info & DOB of
> patient otherwise it will take an extra week for them to call you back & get
> this info) to order TD-DMPS. The approximate cost for a 45-pound child is
> $160 for a two-month supply and they can ship the prescription to you once
> your doctor calls it in. This info was not given out at the conference. Dr.
> Buttar was not there to sell anything and spoke at this conference for free
> and insisted on having no charge for the parents and all attendees.)
>
>
>
> Types of Rashes with DMPS
>
> 1. Oxidative Reaction – like a burn because DMPS cannot be stabilized
> easily and Dr. Buttar is the first to come up with a way to do this. AMT
> pharmacy is the best because they follow Dr. Buttar’s protocol for stabilizing
> (making) the TD-DMPS. Some parents are reporting this type of burning or
> oxidative reaction with TD-DMPS from other pharmacies.)
>
> 2. Transdermal Local – This is a rash where you put the drops on and it is
> not a problem and clears up on it’s own
>
> 3. Mercury Mobilization issue- You may see a rash in places other than
> where the TD-DMPS was applied. This is from the mercury being moved around in
> the body and mobilized so that it can move out. It will clear up.
>
>
>
> (Dr Yasko & many other naturopaths believe any immune enhancement can
> stimulate a “healing crisis” which can produce a “viral rash”)
>
>
>
> “If you don’t know what to do, pray, then follow your gut because that’s God’s
> way of speaking to you.” – Dr. Buttar
>
>
>
> ___________________________________I stopped adding here!
>
> His research study with ASD kids
>
> -All 31 children were diagnosed (Dx) with Autistic Disorder or PDD
>
> -All children were initially tested for red blood cell metals, hair metals,
> mineral levels, urine metal toxicity, and fecal metal toxicity
>
> -All 31 kids showed initial low levels of mercury just like in cancer
> patients, the Hg is not readily visible right away. It shows up later on.
>
> -It would seem logical to just test the feces, since that’s how DMPS works,
> but some kids have metals coming out in different ways so we tested urine and
> hair and I like lots of testing, at least for my research we did it that way
>
> -Hair, fecal and urine metals and mineral levels were tested every 2 months
> (he only did this extreme amount of testing for his study and says you don’t
> need to do as much testing as he did if you want to use it on your child)
>
> -After 10 months of using TD-DMPS, the children were tested for minerals,
> hair, fecal and urine metals only every 4 months
>
> -All 31 patients showed higher levels of Hg as continuous treatment went on
>
> -As more Hg came out, kids had more improvement in symptoms by far, even
> though mercury levels were off the charts
>
> -Treatment was continued until Hg levels finally came back down
>
>
>
> DMPS vs. other chelators
>
> -Mercury binds to sulfhydryl groups and DMSA has only one but DMPS has 2
> sulfhydryl groups, making it significantly more effective
>
> -Thus, DMSA is much slower than DMPS at chelating
>
> -DMSA is considered a neurotoxin and makes kids flaccid, or dead-like looking
> because of the molecular structure. Have you noticed this look when your kids
> are on DMSA?
>
> -DMPS is approved in Europe but DMSA is not because it is a neurotoxin
>
> -DMPS IV is not good because it is a one-time thing. It is the slow,
> continuous pull that makes the difference
>
> -BAL is actually the most effective chelator but can cause death 22% of the
> time
>
> -EDTA is not good for pulling mercury, EDTA is the best at pulling cadmium.
> Cadmium is what may cause hypertension but you can’t pull the cadmium out well
> until you have started pulling the mercury out, so if hypertension is a
> problem, you need to alternate with TD-DMPS and EDTA transdermal or
> suppository. You still need to get the mercury out first if cadmium is a
> problem.
>
> -DMPS suppositories work well like transdermal (TD) DMPS but kids don’t like
> them and push them out
>
> -Oral DMPS is not absorbed well especially with leaky guts
>
>
>
>
>
> Blood-Brain Barrier
>
> He’s not sure that there is one. But if there is, DMSA does cross the barrier
> and DMPS does not. He likes chelation every 48 hours because this gives the
> body time to redistribute the mercury and you deplete a small amount every
> other day. It is like removing a little bit of mercury from a bottle of toxic
> water then pouring the cleaned water back in the bottle. The remaining
> mercury will redistribute itself and all the molecules will move around so
> that more can be pulled out. He likes to chelate every 48 hours for this
> reason.
>
>
>
>
>
> IV-DMPS
>
> -If you do this, there are some specific things you need to follow. Never
> give an IV push, only give an IV drip.
>
> -You must read http://www.DMPSbackfire.com/if you wish to do an IV DMPS. He
> tells all his patients to read this website before doing an IV DMPS and if
> they still want it, to come back. In general, all those doctors reported on
> that web site, made big mistakes because they did not know what they were
> doing.
>
> -You must find a doctor who is board certified to do an IV DMPS. Only 186
> doctors in USA are board certified for IV DMPS. DMPS is dangerous when given
> in an IV form, so make sure you find a doctor who knows what they are doing.
>
> -Our kids won’t take IV’s and admitting them to the hospital is costly so IV
> DMPS doesn’t work
>
> -The half-life of IV-DMPS is much shorter than TD-DMPS, so you are chelating
> for a much shorter amount of time with the IV than the lotion.
>
> -Check out http://www.nomercury.org/for more information
>
> -“Transdermal DMPS is something that any doctor can prescribe. You don’t need
> me (Dr. Buttar.) TD is much safer than the IV. I also have a year-long wait
> list. Just get any doctor to call and get the protocol and start taking the
> prescription right away. You need to get the metals out as fast as you can.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Buttar’s protocol for TD-DMPS
>
> -The protocol is available for doctors through AMT pharmacy
>
> -Each drop of TD-DMPS is .987mg of DMPS, so measure per body weight
>
> -AMT pharmacy will compound the appropriate 4:1 GSH to DMPS mixture
>
> -For AMT pharmacy, Dose at 1.5mg/kg of body weight every 48 hours (take
> child’s weight, convert to kilograms; 1 pound = 0.4536kg OR you can take
> child’s weight in pounds and multiply by .682 drops for the appropriate drops
> every 48 hours)
>
> -Never exceed 60 drops on any given day regardless of person’s weight, unless
> it is for a challenge dose
>
> -A challenge dose is used to collect metal tests of urine, feces, hair or
> blood. This is only done no more than once every 2 months. The amount of
> TD-DMPS drops should be doubled for the challenge dose and urine should be
> collected for the next 12 hours. Feces and blood should be collected within 24
> hours of the challenge.
>
> -At exactly 24 hours after taking the TD-DMPS, you should give the child
> double the daily dose of minerals. You should take a multiple mineral
> supplement and extra calcium, magnesium is especially important. Often the
> regression we sometimes see in these children is not a yeast flare-up but a
> magnesium deficiency because DMPS is really good at pulling magnesium out.
> Make sure the child is well mineralized on the Off Days. All mineral
> supplements are good. I like them all. (MinerALL from
> http://www.vitalitywellness.com/and Multiple Mineral Complex Pro-Support as
> well as Calcium Magnesium Liquid from http://www.KirkmanLabs.com/are good.
> Dr. Buttar is in the process of formulating his own mineral formulation but it
> is not ready yet.)
>
> -place the drops in the child’s hand and have them take their own medicine by
> rubbing it on their forearms, biceps, back of knees (stomach, buttocks, back
> not good) find a place where veins are showing and have them rub it in.
>
> -Do not touch the child’s medicine! Get your own! They need the full dosage
> and you will be using some if you touch it. Don’t use gloves because they are
> made of rubber and have a powder coating, which is all potentially toxic. You
> need to stay away from toxins.
>
>
>
>
>
> Question and Answer session with Dr. Buttar
>
> Q: Should a person do chlorella with DMPS? A: Chlorella is a natural
> substance from aquatic sources and sequesters mercury from the environment.
> Cilantro also does this. So, it is questionable if these items are giving
> your child more mercury in the first place. Just use DMPS because topical
> DMPS is being sucked up by the nerves and goes straight into the brain and
> by-passes the liver. DMPS completely by-passes the gut. Topical DMPS is
> absorbed through the skin. You don’t need anything else.
>
>
>
> Q: Where would high levels of uranium come from and how would you get rid of
> it? A: Sources of uranium are multiple. Uranium could come from water, air,
> nuclear sites and yes, DMPS chelates it well.
>
>
>
> Q: What do you think about hyperbaric chamber therapy (HBOT – Hyperbaric
> Oxygen Therapy) used in conjunction with DMPS? A: I’ve had children with
> every type of therapy and biomedical treatment imaginable, including stem cell
> replacement, in my office as my patients. What these patients are reporting
> is that they get better on biomedical interventions, then level off and don’t
> improve anymore. But, with DMPS, they keep the gains because the whole
> problem is mercury toxicity in the first place. You don’t want to re-build
> the brain until you have stopped the degeneration of brain cells from poison.
> You don’t want to put a roof on your house while there is a fire inside. You
> put the roof back on the house after the fire is out! After you get rid of
> the poison that is damaging their brains (mercury), the kids go right back to
> where they left off developmentally and you can start to put the pieces back
> together and real healing can occur after that. But, you have to get the
> poison out first because it is what’s causing the problem in the first place.
> There is some research going on with hyperbarics (HBOT) and they may allow
> metals to be moved out maybe, but we don’t know.
>
>
>
> Q: Minerals? What when and how much do you give when you are chelating? A:
> We didn’t get good results when we were doing DMPS everyday with Abi. It may
> have been because mineral depletion was too severe. We also didn’t move as
> many metals out. So we dosed DMPS every other day at the same time. Say,
> 3:30pm everyday. You do the minerals exactly 24 hours later, like at 3:30pm
> and you double the amount. All minerals are good. There isn’t one that is
> better than another. Manganese, Selenium, Zinc are all good. The thyroid and
> other metabolic problems come back after getting rid of the Hg. One of my
> patients actually had his thyroid come back after a complete non-functioning
> thyroid for years. Hormones level off either up or down to their proper
> status after proper chelation. I’ve had husbands thank me for giving them
> their wives back. Hg causes a reaction in so many metabolic processes that
> you even get rid of the detoxification function itself. You don’t need to
> prepare
> a person before hand with minerals, but you can if you want. I never did. If
> any mineral is low, we up the dose to 3 or 5 times what that amount should be.
>
>
>
> Q: Yeast? How is this caused? A: Yeast is not caused by DMPS or even DMSA
> for that matter. The yeast is caused because they are immunosuppressed.
> Mercury is an immunosuppressant. The white blood cells are too low in autism
> because they are immunosuppressed. The only people immunosuppressed are
> Transplant patients, cancer patients, AIDS and those with autoimmune
> disorders.
>
>
>
> Q: Do you suggest doing Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) along with DMPS? A: You
> don’t need ALA with DMPS. If a person wants it that is fine but they don’t
> need it.
>
>
>
> Q: How about special diets to cure autism in conjunction with the TD-DMPS? A:
> I never used a special diet on my son. Only 25% of the kids need a special
> diet.
>
>
>
> Q: Is DMSA a slow chelator then? A: DMPS is 10 times faster at chelating than
> DMSA. That extra sulfhydryl group makes it synergistically a much faster
> chelator.
>
>
>
> Q: Is lead bad and toxic? A: Metals become more toxic the more you have.
> They work synergistically when contained together. DMPS will chelate lead
> and some cadmium even.
>
>
>
> Q: How do you administer TD-DMPS? A: A child takes it, rubs it in, you put it
> in their hand not yours. It is almost like they know they need it. At least
> it was that way with my son, Abi. Don’t use a glove because it is latex and
> may have powder coating – both chemicals you don’t want to risk using. You
> rub the child’s arms together if they can’t do it but THEY TAKE THEIR OWN
> MEDICINE. DMPS does smell, but you will learn to deal with it. Put it on the
> back of the legs, thighs are good, forearm, biceps are all good. The stomach
> is not good because you need a vascular spot (place showing veins.)
>
>
>
> Q: I’ve heard that autistic kids have larger head sizes than normal and
> decreased blood flow to the brain. Does head size return to normal and blood
> flow after TD-DMPS? A: You need to pull the metals out. The body is trying
> to get rid of metals by flushing areas out with blood and possibly restricting
> blood to other areas as well. Head size and everything else may heal.
>
>
>
> Q: Are there preservatives, like thimerosol, in epidurals and anesthesia as
> well as vaccinations? A: Yes, all shots, anesthesia, epidurals, Rhogam and
> vaccinations, even the ones that don’t list thimerosol, still have mercury
> because they are not required to list it during manufacturing. An infant may
> receive more than 60 times the amount of mercury that is considered safe from
> one doctor visit with several shots (video clip presented.)
>
>
>
> Q: Is there anything that would keep a person from using DMPS in a patient, a
> contraindication? A: Only if a person had an anaphylactic reaction to it
> which is extremely rare
>
>
>
> Q: Do you use TD-DMPS with amalgams or do you remove them first? A: Get the
> mercury out of the body because removing amalgams can be very expensive. Just
> chelate the mercury and don’t remove the amalgams. If you do remove the
> amalgams, it is a good thing to get an IV-DMPS within 12 hours because the
> mercury floating around the body is so high, but you can chelate with the
> amalgams still in there. They will not disintegrate or fall apart.
>
>
>
> Q: Do you treat yeast before doing TD-DMPS? A: No, we prescribe anti-fungals
> during treatment to maintain the yeast gone and use probiotics, etc. for
> yeast. Yeast creates an additional stress to the body but mercury is the
> underlying issue for immune dysfunction and thus, yeast.
>
>
>
> Q: Do you chelate your son still? A: Maybe one month a year I chelate him
> since those with autism have an underlying detoxification pathway and that is
> why they are autistic in the first place.
>
>
>
> Q: Medications like Risperdol, Zoloft, do you use those with DMPS? A: Some
> meds you need to wean off slowly, some you need to keep on, but most meds, you
> should just take off cold turkey. Anti-Seizure meds induce seizures! It says
> so in the PDR (physicians desk reference) under side effects. It really could
> be mercury toxicity that is causing the seizures in the first place. You need
> to take out all the stuff that the body was not meant to have, maybe add a few
> natural supplements, but the body heals itself after you get the mercury out.
>
>
>
> Q: What if Hg is through the roof on initial testing? A: Still treat with
> TD-DMPS, but likely this child will be less severe ASD because this shows they
> are excreting. TD-DMPS will help the child excrete faster.
>
>
>
> Q: Is 3 months of treatment on TD-DMPS enough even though the child is mostly
> recovered? A: No, 3 months is not enough for anyone. Even if a child did
> DMSA for a year or more before starting DMPS, DMSA is a slow chelator. You
> must be consistent for at least 6-12 months on DMPS to remove all the mercury
> in a partially chelated child. You don’t want your child to remain even 10%
> autistic.
>
>
>
> Q: Do you use Methyl B12 on your patients? A: Yes, we now use it in
> conjunction with TD-DMPS, but did not on the original study.
>
>
>
> Q: Are the kids on TD-DMPS for life then? A: Maybe they need it one month
> out of 12 (in a pulse mode) for the rest of their life, I don’t know. They
> are non-detoxers and need extra help to counteract the things in the
> environment.
>
>
>
> Q: Do you treat cadmium removal with TD-DMPS? A: No, get TD-EDTA for
> cadmium. Use TD-DMPS first to get Hg out, then TD-EDTA for cadmium or a
> suppository of EDTA. EDTA is an easier pull of cadmium than DMPS. Go for the
> Hg first because it causes the most damage in our bodies, by far. Then get
> rid of cadmium. Always treat Hg first, even if it is lower, much lower than
> the other metals present.
>
>
>
> Q: Do you chelate normal siblings of autistic kids? A: Yes, you can
> especially if they have weird physical symptoms or ADD. It is much more
> crucial to chelate in a developing brain, than a developed brain.
>
>
>
> Q: Do you prefer IV-DMPS? A: I prefer TD-DMPS because it is slower, safer
> and a continuous flow. You could do an IV drip once every other week in
> addition to the lotion, but it is not crucial.
>
> lindajaytee <lindajaytee@...> wrote:
>
> Andrea,
> I am wondering if you would be so kind as to try to find out the
> answer to the question about the kinetics of TD-DMPS (see below). I
> was thinking that someone on one of the other TD-DMPS boards is bound
> to have the answer to that question and probably wouldn't mind if the
> answer is shared with everyone here. The question of kinetics of TD-
> DMPS is a very important one. Surely one of the doctors who is using
> it on his patients would be able to give you the citation of a study
> that has been used to determine the kinetics of transdermal DMPS.
> Thanks so much
> Linda
>
>
> This part is from A-M message no. 124798:
>
> I've been struggling with the same question. Would you please email me
> if you come across any answers outside of what gets posted here? I'd
> really really appreciate it. Thanks.
>
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, KKSOKOLSKI@A... wrote:
>> Can someone please explain why using transdermal DMPS every other
> day would
>> be more effective than give it orally every 8 hours? Does anyone
> know the
>> kinetics of transdermal DMPS? Does it stay in the body 48 hours
> until the next
>> application?
>> Ken
>
>
> end message 124798
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, Andrea Lalama
> <andrealalama@y...> wrote:
>>
>> Nothing against Andi but that's just his opinion remember nothing
> has been proof or made a research with substantial evidence to be
> considered as a fact we just have opinions about everything right now
> and my opinion and many more people that I now including my
> naturopath Doctor believed Chlorella is pretty safe and also you may
> want to try TD_DMPS I see how fast my son is recuperating with this
> cream and other mothers as well.
>>
>> If you want to read for yourself go to td_dmps-
> subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>
>> I think transdermal is a better option because of their
> gastrointestinal problems they already have.
>>
>> Don't you think make sense?
>>
>>
>>
>> tk200192071 <tk200192071@y...> wrote:
>>
>> There is some information on this in the files section - Andy Index
>>
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/2658
>>
>> TK
>>
>>
>> --- In Autism-Mercury@yahoogroups.com, "Margaret W. Tipton"
>> <peg.tipton@c...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My DAN doctor has recommended I chelate my son with Chlorella. I
>>> had read in J. McCandless's book "Children With Starving Brains"
>>> that chelating with Chlorella was not a good idea. There were no
>>> examples of what had happened. Does anyone know anyone harmed by
>>> use of Chlorella? We will be using it along with Lipoic Acid.
>>>
>>> The Chlorella we have is distributed by Morin Laboratories Inc.
>>>
>>> We have previously chelated with DMSA at 1/2 dose because of a
>>> reaction. (On and off for 3 years) Also have used Metal-free for
> 6
>>> months of last year. Matt had chronic mouth sores (after 5 weeks
>> of
>>> metal free we would have to stop due to a mouth sore). Matt has
>> been
>>> free of any chelating for last 10 months.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Peg
>>> Mom to Kelly, 11, and Matthew, 9, ASD & GFCFSFEFNFCF
>
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Linda My frien Dana already made that job and I think everyone should read it to clear those questions and many more. here is a cut and paste of that: ...
Andrea Lalama
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OKAY...NOW I AM REALLY CONFUSED I have not been at this site too much lately...so sorry if I am asking a dumb question. It seems that what Buttar recommends is...
Ingrid Mager
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You have it in a nutshell! It appears that the one day on one day off useage with the TD DMPS is at the heart of its success. Doesn;t make sense to me either....
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Do you, or does ANYBODY know how I can get some of this TD-DMPS without a doctor? I am financially in the poor house and am struggling on my own. I thought I...
Ingrid Mager
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I'm curious if there has been discussion or anyone using the TD DMPS daily but breaking it down into smaller doses? That way there is a constant supply in the...
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Please Do not especulate about TD-Dmps without trying it first! I am doing it and I see how my son went from "0" to 90% in just 3 months, it is true that kids...
Andrea Lalama
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What is megnatic pad and where is it available ? Sharad ... months, it is true that kids act up doring the treatment but it is nothing that you have not seen...
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I am thinking about it for myself...I have not been able to be blessed with children, thinking I have mercury to thankfor that, LOL! I am worried about getting...
Ingrid Mager
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Inga, If you used TD-DMPS would you be using it every 8 hours or less? I'm really really concerned now that I see more of your history. I really don't think...
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... meaning...only posing problems. ... than I have to find a way to get some DMPS....ands whether it should be TD-DMPS, or the regular stuff. ... address or...
Ingrid Mager
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Inga, I think that the regular DMPS is probably a lot cheaper that the TD stuff. I wonder if you and I would be better to just use oral DMPS every 8 h with...
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... Yeah...also why not do the oral every 3 hours like the ALA. Woudl that not be more like the transdermal? But where can we get the DMPS (W/o doctor)? I...
Ingrid Mager
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VERY EXPENSIVE - you can order one bottle from Switerland which with shipping is gonna set you back $230!!! Its $160 in the US WITH a Rx Dr. Merloni S.A. C.so...
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We saw a practioner (not DAN!) and it cost us around $250 TOTAL-- that was her fee for visit, and some supplements she sold us (which I could have bought later...
Stacy Cayce
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Only what I have read that Buttar tried it this way with his son and excretion went down so he went back to alternate days................ Mandi in UK I'm...
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Inga, Yes, there is quite a difference in their approaches and beliefs. Very few people on this list, I think, would agree that keeping the amalgams in is a...
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Gosh, Ingrid, I'd almost think in your situation doing the oral for a while might be more prudent??? That's just my opinion FWIW, which probably isn't much?...
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I'm not going to rush out and spend all of that money on TD-DMPS. I do think that Andy's protocol is much, much safer. Maybe slower, and maybe slower is a...
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Ok here's what we have planned to do, not doing it yet as the TD DMPS has not arrived I saw a practitioner that Andy recommended to me, with the intentions of ...
Stacy Cayce
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Hi, According to the Buttar info, the child is supposed to apply the TD by him/herself. I also have a two year-old. That would be an impossible task. What...
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My son will apply it, I currently use mag sulfate cream from Kirkman labs and he always has to put some on himself. I plan on doing practice ahead of time and...
Stacy Cayce
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... Why would that be? Could you not use a glove if you did not want any on yourself? ~Inga...
Ingrid Mager
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Hi, Gloves, regardless of type, may have a reaction to the TD-Dmps. Most are using a stainless steel spoon or a glass to rub it in if the child is not capable...
Susan Landes
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Stacy, What you are doing sounds reasonable to me. It was mostly the part about continuous chelation without any breaks that I thought would be hard on a...
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... SOunds like it - I just thought a lot of people here were gong the TD-DMPS route...and the success rate theyare talkling aobut is retty amazing. I guess I...
Ingrid Mager
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Inga, ... What I am hearing is reports of improvement and lots of emotion. It is impossible to evaluate that type of report without examining the details. I...
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Me too on the SICK OF BEING SICK LIST. Inga, and whoever else is still interested in the Eczema, psorisis cream. Please contact me privatly through my E mail...
Victoria
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As the British military always says in the movies, "wait for it, wait for it...". As for transdermal DMPS it's hard to imagine that it is a very effective...
Kerbob
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I plan to do Td-Dmps soon to see what will happen. But since Dmps does not cross the blood brain barrier, and let say that the td-dmps protocol works to the...
young
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This is a very important question that I haven't heard any answers to!!!! Linda ... does not cross the blood brain barrier, and let say that the td-dmps ...
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