Yeah, Lisa. I kind of figured ppl may, but people do what they feel
they need to. I often think of them (that one and others) as the
Wizards of VSG. Write a book already!! LOL!!

I will not be one to jump at the opportunity to scold or be
defensive. It does prevent me from posting much though. I do have
to say I have notice that has calmed down a bit.

I am getting to the point where either my taste buds are changing or
I have had my fill of the same ol stuff. I was all excited about
this tilapia I made. It tastes like lake water to me. That may be
because I've at a lot of tuna & salmon since I could have it.

I am going to have some watermelon, but I won't post it on OH. I'll
be lynched!! hee, hee

Thanks for the reassurance that I am not totally off mark here!
Gwen



--- In AstronomicallyStunningVSGer@yahoogroups.com, LisaRN
<ladiesassie2@...> wrote:
>
> I totally agree with you Gwen....and ya know, I think I know who ur
talking about....no names tho...
> I count carbs to a point.... I dont write down numbers, dont even
count them....but I know pretty much what Im putting in my mouth...
> I dont do LOW carb...i do Lower carb...higher protein..
> If u get too much protein, thats bad for ur body systems....same
with too few carbs.. our body needs a healthy amount of both!  thats
the key to figuring this out..to being able to adjust to this new way
of eating...eating healthy, learning about good carbs, bad
carbs...good protein, bad protein...etc, etc..
> You have the right mindset...so dont worry about what others do or
say..Just do what is right for you...ur body will tell u.... The only
real advice i have for you is to not let urself get into a rut...vary
up ur "diet" from day to day...so that ur body doesnt get used to one
thing and stall on u.....for instance, one day, get 800 calories, the
next day, do 850, then drop back down to 825....see what Im saying?
Im not saying do those numbers exactly...it was just an example.. I
dont get the same number of calories, carbs, proteins, etc...from day
to day... Im almost 5 months out and havent yet had a stall.. Ive had
a cpl weeks that I gained..but that was completely what I was
eating... Ive not always made good choices...its been really hard to
learn to eat differently... Im a junk food eater...have been for 40
yrs...so its gonna take some time to get used to not eating it as
often...and nope, I havent given it up...and Im not going to.. but
Ive learned
> moderation, finally!  whew..that was hard lol
> anyway...again...I totally agree with u...
> hugs
>
>
>  
>
>
> LisaRN
> My groups:
> Nurses Online
>
>
> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Gwen <pengwen13@...> wrote:
>
> From: Gwen <pengwen13@...>
> Subject: [AstronomicallyStunningVSGer] Carbs - Question and
vent.... long (sorry!)
> To: AstronomicallyStunningVSGer@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 4:03 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am kind of turned off by a certain person on OH since I think
that
> they are too pushy when it comes to carbs.
>
> Maybe I am wrong, but I am going to have carbs and not fret over
> every stinking one. I log each and every carb though. I range from
> 30-60 (only higher than 60 once that I am sure of). Some of the
> supplements from my surgeon's office have quite a few carbs even,
so
> in the beginning I was at the mercy of taking in what ever just to
> get the protein and liquids in.
>
> I have had a few bites of non-healthy things. Just to see what it
> would do. (I don't want to find out in a restaurant or at someone's
> home...unfortunatel y - no problems.) I honestly don't want to eat
> anything yet, so my goal is not pleasure, but to just get in my
> protein and water and I don't find time for much of anything else -
> like even veggies which I miss so much! Milk is higher in carbs
than
> I'd like, but I am not going to stop consuming that either. So for
> someone to put their success on not eating more than 20 carbs or
put
> that the reason for slow loss is because of carbs bothers me.
>
> The same person has told me personally not to compare my weight
loss
> to others "everyone is different" blah, blah, blah, but I feel
their
> posts are "look at me and my weight loss. You too can have these
> results if you don't eat carbs." WELL. The reason I decided on
> surgery was to quit dieting. If it is all about protein and carbs,
I
> could have saved a lot of worry, time and pain by going back on the
> Atkins diet!
>
> And I feel that eating a healthy balance (and that means eventually
> not having so much artificial sweetener)- but including some
> (little) healthy carbs - is the idea here. My NUT does not say one
> word about carbs other than only once all the protein water &
veggies
> are in. I have basically been on a low-carb diet for years so I am
> already used to not eating a lot of the bad things anyway. I also
> feel that if I go to a strict low-carb diet that I will be gaining
> once I introduce them back in. This is a new way of eating for the
> rest of my life. Not a diet during the "honeymoon" stage or to get
> it off as fast as possible then let me and my body fight it out.....
>
> So do you thing my way of thinking this is wrong?? Am I setting
> myself up for failure? It isn't like I am not taking it seriously.
> I'd like to think I am realistic and looking long term. I don't
want
> to drop 150 lbs only to gain back 50 or more. This is just laying
> the plans for the rest of my life.
>
> Thx! Gwen
> (Also 2 more things. I am a slow loser. Don't know why. I seem to
> see a pattern. I lose for a few days and then hold for a few days.
> The days that I lose are almost always at least a lb if not more.
And
> I wanted to add that I feel a little PMS creeping up and that may
be
> why I am defensive).
>