I totally agree with you Gwen....and ya know, I think I know who ur talking about....no names tho...
I count carbs to a point.... I dont write down numbers, dont even count them....but I know pretty much what Im putting in my mouth...
I dont do LOW carb...i do Lower carb...higher protein..
If u get too much protein, thats bad for ur body systems....same with too few carbs.. our body needs a healthy amount of both! thats the key to figuring this out..to being able to adjust to this new way of eating...eating healthy, learning about good carbs, bad carbs...good protein, bad protein...etc, etc..
You have the right mindset...so dont worry about what others do or say..Just do what is right for you...ur body will tell u.... The only real advice i have for you is to not let urself get into a rut...vary up ur "diet" from day to day...so that ur body doesnt get used to one thing and stall on u.....for instance, one day, get 800 calories, the next day, do 850, then drop back down to 825....see what Im saying? Im not saying do those numbers exactly...it was just an example.. I dont get the same number of calories, carbs, proteins, etc...from day to day... Im almost 5 months out and havent yet had a stall.. Ive had a cpl weeks that I gained..but that was completely what I was eating... Ive not always made good choices...its been really hard to learn to eat differently... Im a junk food eater...have been for 40 yrs...so its gonna take some time to get used to not eating it as often...and nope, I havent given it up...and Im not going to.. but Ive
learned moderation, finally! whew..that was hard lol
anyway...again...I totally agree with u...
hugs
--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Gwen <pengwen13@...> wrote:
From: Gwen <pengwen13@...> Subject: [AstronomicallyStunningVSGer] Carbs - Question and vent.... long (sorry!) To: AstronomicallyStunningVSGer@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 4:03 PM
I am kind of turned off by a certain person on OH since I think that they are too pushy when it comes to carbs.
Maybe I am wrong, but I am going to have carbs and not fret over every stinking one. I log each and every carb though. I range from 30-60 (only higher than 60 once that I am sure of). Some of the supplements from my surgeon's office have quite a few carbs even, so in the beginning I was at the mercy of taking in what ever just to get the protein and liquids in.
I have had a few bites of non-healthy things. Just to see what it would do. (I don't want to find out in a restaurant or at someone's home...unfortunatel y - no problems.) I honestly don't want to eat anything yet, so my goal is not pleasure, but to just get in my protein and water and I don't find time for much of anything else - like even veggies which I miss so much! Milk is higher in carbs than I'd like, but I am not
going to stop consuming that either. So for someone to put their success on not eating more than 20 carbs or put that the reason for slow loss is because of carbs bothers me.
The same person has told me personally not to compare my weight loss to others "everyone is different" blah, blah, blah, but I feel their posts are "look at me and my weight loss. You too can have these results if you don't eat carbs." WELL. The reason I decided on surgery was to quit dieting. If it is all about protein and carbs, I could have saved a lot of worry, time and pain by going back on the Atkins diet!
And I feel that eating a healthy balance (and that means eventually not having so much artificial sweetener)- but including some (little) healthy carbs - is the idea here. My NUT does not say one word about carbs other than only once all the protein water & veggies are in. I have basically been on a
low-carb diet for years so I am already used to not eating a lot of the bad things anyway. I also feel that if I go to a strict low-carb diet that I will be gaining once I introduce them back in. This is a new way of eating for the rest of my life. Not a diet during the "honeymoon" stage or to get it off as fast as possible then let me and my body fight it out.....
So do you thing my way of thinking this is wrong?? Am I setting myself up for failure? It isn't like I am not taking it seriously. I'd like to think I am realistic and looking long term. I don't want to drop 150 lbs only to gain back 50 or more. This is just laying the plans for the rest of my life.
Thx! Gwen (Also 2 more things. I am a slow loser. Don't know why. I seem to see a pattern. I lose for a few days and then hold for a few days. The days that I lose are almost always at least a lb if not more. And I wanted to add
that I feel a little PMS creeping up and that may be why I am defensive).
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