Hi,

Sorry for the delay. I did not get your message until today. My
facility was in California.

Good Luck,
~Diane

--- In AskDianeProvidersWeb@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Mitchell"
<kimm@...> wrote:
>
> Diane:
>
>
>
> What state was your facility located ( trying to determine is the
costs you
> provided would be applicable to a southern Californian facility?
>
>
>
> Kim Mitchell
>
> Partner �Portfolio Investments
>
> ICON CAPITAL PARTNERS LLC
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> From: AskDianeProvidersWeb@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:AskDianeProvidersWeb@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Diane
Morrow
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:40 AM
> To: AskDianeProvidersWeb@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AskDianeProvidersWeb] Re: staffing an RCFE
>
>
>
> Hello Diane,
>
> My company will be opening 3-4 RCFE within about a 1-3 mile radius
> of each other.
> My questions are:
>
> 1. If the Administrator's duties were to be focused on managing
the
> care givers (2-3 per 6 bed facility), providing daily care for
> residents to include medication management and ensuring the
> facilities are in compliance with all California regulations,
would
> you say that the Administrator could manage 4 facilities located
> within the 1-3 mile radius? My partners and I would be handling
all
> other aspects of the business like marketing, food purchase,
general
> administration etc.
>
> Answer to Question 1: I know of some Administrators supervising
four
> 6-bed facilities. A lot will depend on the levels of care needed
by
> your residents, and the level of trained staff you have. We have
> two helpful documents at http://www.provider
<http://www.providersweb.com;>
> sweb.com; one is
> called "Staffing" and one called "Staffing Chart". You can find
> them using the search engine on the left hand side of the website.
> They contain suggestions on normal staffing standards.
>
> 2. What is your recommendation for the number of caregivers (on
> average) per 6-bed facility including covering a night shift? Is
it
> customary to have caregivers live on premises to cover the night
> shift? I know that this also depends on the kinds of services we
> will be providing like dementia care etc. We would just like to
> know what in general is customary and reasonable.
>
> Answer to question 2: Yes, a lot depends on the needs of your
> residents. You are required to have someone on duty, if they are
> sleeping and they have to wake up to respond to a resident you
have
> to pay them properly. We have a document called "Live-in Employee
> Wages" that explains the requirements. I know one provider ended
up
> paying over $100,000 in back wages to a live-in employee she did
not
> pay properly. It is essential to understand the pay requirements.
>
> You have to have a person "on call" and capable of responding
within
> 10 to 15 minutes depending on your state's laws.
>
> If you are taking persons with dementia, you may need someone "on
> call", someone else asleep at the facility and "on call as
needed",
> and another "on call" in case of emergency.
>
> 3. In your experience what were your average monthly food costs
per
> person?
>
> Kim
>
> That can depend on how picky your residents are and how many
special
> diets you have to accommodate. At my facility we spent $11.00 per
> resident per day. However, 1/3 of my residents were diabetic. It
> can range between a low of $7.00 a day on up. A lot will depend on
> your resident's needs.
>
> Thanks Diane!
>
> You are welcome. Sorry for the delay in answering, my email was
> delayed.
>
> --- In AskDianeProvidersWe <mailto:AskDianeProvidersWeb%
40yahoogroups.com>
> b@yahoogroups.com, "kimmaticon" <kimm@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Diane
> >
> > My company will be opening 3-4 RCFE within about a 1-3 mile
radius
> of
> > each other. My questions are:
> >
> > 1. If the Administrator's duties were to be focused on managing
> the
> > care givers (2-3 per 6 bed facility), providing daily care for
> > residents to include medication management and ensuring the
> > facilities are in compliance with all California regs, would you
> say
> > that the Administrator could manage 4 facilities located within
> the 1-
> > 3 mile radius? I and my partners would be handling all other
> aspects
> > of the business like marketing, food purchase, general
> administration
> > etc.
> >
> > 2. What is your recommendation for the number of caregivers (on
> > average) per 6 bed facility including covering a night shift. Is
> it
> > customary to have caregivers live on premises to cover the night
> > shift? I know that this also depends on the kinds of services we
> will
> > be providing like dementia care etc. We would just like to know
> what
> > in general is customary and reasonable.
> >
> > 3. In your experience what were your average monthly food costs
> per
> > person?
> >
> > Thanks Diane!
> >
> > Kim
> >
>