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Re: [ai] Bier block ideas

I also use 0.5% Plain xylocaine.  I place a tourniquet mid forearm, after the upper arm tourniquet before injecting the xylocaine and inject about 30cc before removing the distal venous tourniquet, then inject the additional 20cc.  I also like to ad 1 mg. of  Zemuron ot 0.5 mg. of pancuronium to the 50cc of xylocaine.  (unless contra-indicated)
 
One other thing that really helps is to give 50 mg. or so of propofol, one time, just prior to the incision, this ofter eliminates the initial sensation of "pressure" as the procedure begins.  O2 at 2-3 l/m is also used.
 

Mr. Marc S. Perez, R.N., C.R.N.A.
http://marcperez.piczo.com


 
In a message dated 11/3/2008 10:42:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, yauburn@... writes:

Does anyone have any suggestions to improve the incidence of complete surgical anesthesia with a Bier block. We usually use them for carpal tunnel repair.

I have read the studies of the various additives such as Ketorlac, Dexmedetomidine, Clonidine, Nitroglycerin, Cisatricurium,  Demerol, Ketamine, and Sodium bicarbonate but have no clinical experience with these additives. I have used the forearm tourniquet a few times with adequate results. I have used 50cc of 0.5% lidocaine and also 15cc of 2%  lidocaine as suggested by the New York School of Regional Anesthesia web site.  I hold the arm up for a while and do a tight wrap of the Esmark bandage, I inflate the tourniquet to at least 100mmHg above systolic BP and inject with a distal tourniquet  and wait about 8 minutes until incision, but I still occasionally get patients complaining of sharp sensations on incision suggesting incomplete sensory block. Any ideas appreciated.

Thanks

Gary Yurina






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Does anyone have any suggestions to improve the incidence of complete surgical anesthesia with a Bier block. We usually use them for carpal tunnel repair. I...
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... Really effective exsanguination is important in getting this technique to work well. I'm not a big fan of the Esmarch bandage. Holding the arm up while...
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