Hi David

I have decided, my ideal senario is to only drink when
I go out - although I sometimes change my mind & drink
alone & then regret it - but it think that's because I
still haven't worked through my issues. but it's good
to know that there are some people out there
sucessfully controlling their drinking.

Thanks for your reply

Maria


--- david smith <dasmith1947@...> wrote:


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You do it because you decide to. I love a drink and am
going out tonight. I do not worship alcohol and simply
know when I have had enough. Last night, the night
before, no drink and no problem. I do NOT want a life
dfuelled by drink BUT I will not have a life without
it and why should I. Booze has taken me to many
places some good but some horrible. I, we, have a
choice at some point and that is everything. I have
lived a part of my life without that ability to choose
and I am not going back because I've decided not to. I
am not at all being clever because my wisdom has come
after tremendous pain. Some people are able to
control alcohol without having to go through this
learning process. Good luck.

Cheers

davo






David A. Smith

>From: Maria Martin <marymary069@...> >Reply-To:
AlcoholicsCanDrinkSafelyAgain@yahoogroups.com >To:
AlcoholicsCanDrinkSafelyAgain@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [AlcoholicsCanDrinkSafelyAgain] Need some
advice >Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:54:23 -0700 (PDT) >
> > >Dear Lilian and Murdoch (and anyone else who may
read >this mail) > >I'm new to this little group and i
haven't bought your >book yet, although i intend to.
>I have had a drink problem for many years, it started
>in my Early teens and I am now nearly 40. >I agree
wholeheartedly with your idea that alcoholism >is a
behavior problem with its roots in childhood >trauma,
and that the real problem is not actually the
>behavior itself, but the underlying issues. >I have
tried AA and twelve-step re-hab and these have >been
of absolutely no use to me whatsoever. I am now >in
long-term psychotherapy, and although things have >got
better they are still not perfect. >I have cut down my
drinking from every day to once or >twice a week. But
I still don't have full control over >it, and still
drink on my own when i am sad or >stressed out. >what
i would like to ask you, and anyone on this list >who
has regained control over there drinking is HOW >you
did it. Did you have a period of abstinence? and >how
long did it take before you regained full control?
>I've been struggling with this for two years and it's
>still A daily battle. > >Any input would be a real
help. > >Thanks >Maria > > > >--- lilianandmurdoch
<LilianandMurdoch@...> wrote: > > > > > > > New
book proves alcoholics can recover and drink > >
responsibly again > > > > > > > > > > A new book
"Phoenix in a Bottle", due to be > > published on 30
May, will > > prove that alcoholism is not a disease
or illness, > > but a behavior > > problem rooted in
childhood, which alcoholics can > > correct and be
able > > to drink responsibly again if and when they
so wish. > > > > > > click here to buy our book > > >
> > > The authors are former alcoholics Lilian and
Murdoch > > MacDonald, a > > married couple from Ayr,
Ayrshire in Scotland. > > > > Lilian and Murdoch's
lives were devastated by > > alcoholism, but they > >
have now recovered so completely that they now not > >
only lead normal > > lives again, but are also able to
drink in a > > perfectly sociable > > manner once
more. > > > > That goes against the teaching of
Alcoholics > > Anonymous, and of many > > alcoholism
treatment centres throughout the world. > > But Lilian
(61) > > and Murdoch (58) believe that lifelong
sobriety is > > not the solution > > to alcoholism, as
this only treats the symptoms and > > not the causes
of > > the problem, and is merely a damage limitation
> > exercise. > > > > The couple argue that
alcoholism, in common with > > other self-harming > >
disorders like bulimia, anorexia and > >
self-mutilation, often stems > > from problems
experienced in childhood. And if these > > problems
can be > > identified and properly addressed, then the
problem > > behaviour can be > > cured. > > > > Ten
years ago the couple had hit rock bottom, > > sleeping
rough for two > > weeks on the streets of Cambridge,
where a quarter > > of a century > > previously as an
undergraduate Murdoch had received > > an honours
degree > > in English Literature. They had moved to
Cambridge > > from Ayr with the > > idea of Murdoch
doing research for a doctorate, but > > had reverted
to > > their old habits, started binge drinking, and
been > > thrown out of > > their lodgings. > > > >
After a fortnight, and when they were just about at >
> the end of their > > tether, two nurses on their way
home after a > > Saturday night out took > > pity on
Lilian and Murdoch, bought them a cup of tea > > and
found them a > > place in a homeless hostel. > > > >
They spent the next twelve months there getting to > >
the roots of their > > alcoholism. They tried AA one
last time, before > > concluding that it > > was a
quasi-religious cult whose ideas on alcoholism > >
were inadequate > > and outdated. > > > > Instead, by
reading psychology, they decided that > > the causes
of their > > alcoholic behaviour lay in problems
experienced > > during childhood. And > > that once
these problems were realised and > > addressed, there
was no > > longer any need for escape through
alcoholism, and > > they could even > > drink normally
like other people again. > > > > Ten years after
selling newspapers from a stand in > > Market Square,
> > Cambridge, so that he and Lilian could get back on
> > their feet > > financially, Murdoch now writes
business and > > financial articles for > > three
local weekly papers and also runs his own > > public
relations > > consultancy. > > > > And Lilian is so
keen to pass on the benefits of > > their experience
to > > others who still have problems with alcohol,
that > > together the couple > > wrote "Phoenix in a
Bottle". > > > > Eminent American addiction expert Dr
Stanton Peele > > PhD has read the > > book, and
commented: > > > > "Phoenix in a Bottle is a modern
version of The Days > > of Wine and > > Roses, and
tells the true story of how two people > > who entered
a > > period of desperate drinking stayed with one
another > > in a close > > loving relationship, and
emerged from their > > alcoholism able to drink > >
responsibly again. > > > > "Both a wonderful love
story and a challenge to > > conventional wisdom > >
about how people can recover from drinking problems, >
> Phoenix in a > > Bottle gives people hope, and helps
them to confront > > their own > > demons - alcohol or
otherwise." > > > > "Phoenix in a Bottle" by Lilian
and Murdoch > > MacDonald will be > > published by
Melrose Books price £16.99 on 30 May. > > > > > > > >
click here to buy our book > > > > Enquiries: > > > >
Ross Hilton > > Commissioning Editor > > Melrose Books
> > St Thomas Place > > ELY > > Cambridgeshire > > CB7
4GG > > Telephone: 00 44 1353 646608 > > E-mail:
rosshilton@... > > > > Web:
www.melrosebooks.com > > > > Issued by Fame Publicity
Services. > > > > Fame Publicity Services > > 10
Miller Road > > AYR, Ayrshire > > Scotland KA7 2AY > >
Tel.: 00 44 1292 281498 > > Mobile: 07833 667322. > >
E-mail: famepublicity@... > > > > Web:
www.famepublicity.co.uk > > > > Lilian and Murdoch's
website: > > www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com > >
> > Melrose Books website: > > www.melrosebooks.com >
> > > Dr Stanton Peele's website: > > www.peele.net >
> > > > > > > > > Web links: > > > >
http://i-newswire.com/pr8494.html > > > >
http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/view_release.php? > >
rID=3788&tf7sid=ce8a547a08c7011ff861cc4134c30ef1 > > >
> http://www.theopenpress.com/index.php?a=press&id=799
> > > >
>http://www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com/newpage5.html
> > > > http://www.pressbox.co.uk/Detailed/24330.html
> > > >
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/2/prweb213026.htm >
> > >
>http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/2/prweb213026.htm
> > > >
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