Oh, Ari!! I missed THAT, probably because I am so focused on the
current target of my wrath. However, what you noted is much more
egregious. There's nothing "autism-LIKE" about Asperger's! Hence its
being *on* the autistic spectrum! How annoying! [This reminds of
Schafer insisting that we Aspies are not autistic and therefore don't
count. Grrrr!]

The problem is that the general community is being overrun by newbies
who have done little research, therefore are not educated enough to
know the correct terminology, or nefarious types who are advancing
their own agendas, political or financial, at the expense of those of
us who are in this for the long haul and/or are autistic ourselves.

Very disappointing. Surely we don't need "help" from either of those
types of people!

Shannon


--- "Ari N." <Aneeman@...> wrote:

> I'm somewhat annoyed about their referring to Asperger's and PDD-NOS
> as
> "autism-like". They are all part of the same spectrum, and when
> they're
> spoken about in the media, the term autistic people is used to refer
> to all
> of us.
>
> Quote I'm referring to from the site: "Add into the mix conditions
> that are
> *autism-like* –such as Asperger's Syndrome and Pervasive
> Developmental
> Disorder Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS)—and there is even more
> variation."
>
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2008 11:58 PM, Shannon T Ahern <shannon_terra@...>
> wrote:
>
> >   I voted!
> >
> > I also sent a strongly-worded letter about the devolution of a
> genuine
> > medical phrase, "autistic spectrum", into the grammar fiasco,
> "autism
> > spectrum". It's a pet peeve of mine and I am now perseverating on
> it.
> > "Autism" isn't an adjective, therefore cannot modify "spectrum".
> Sigh.
> >
> > Shannon :-)
> >
> >
> > --- "Ari N." <Aneeman@... <Aneeman%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > The IAN Project, which is funded by Autism Speaks and hosted by
> > > Kennedy
> > > Krieger, is hosting a poll directed at adults on the spectrum,
> asking
> > > if we
> > > want a "cure". Let's give them a strong and unequivocal "No."
> > > Currently, the
> > > polling is running about 57% against a cure. If you could take a
> few
> > > seconds
> > > out of your day to vote, it would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/
> > >
> > > -Ari
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> --
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

I'm somewhat annoyed about their referring to Asperger's and PDD-NOS as
"autism-like". They are all part of the same spectrum, and when they're
spoken about in the media, the term autistic people is used to refer to all
of us.

Quote I'm referring to from the site: "Add into the mix conditions that are
*autism-like* –such as Asperger's Syndrome and Pervasive Developmental
Disorder Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS)—and there is even more
variation."



On Jan 9, 2008 11:58 PM, Shannon T Ahern <shannon_terra@...> wrote:

>   I voted!
>
> I also sent a strongly-worded letter about the devolution of a genuine
> medical phrase, "autistic spectrum", into the grammar fiasco, "autism
> spectrum". It's a pet peeve of mine and I am now perseverating on it.
> "Autism" isn't an adjective, therefore cannot modify "spectrum". Sigh.
>
> Shannon :-)
>
>
> --- "Ari N." <Aneeman@... <Aneeman%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > The IAN Project, which is funded by Autism Speaks and hosted by
> > Kennedy
> > Krieger, is hosting a poll directed at adults on the spectrum, asking
> > if we
> > want a "cure". Let's give them a strong and unequivocal "No."
> > Currently, the
> > polling is running about 57% against a cure. If you could take a few
> > seconds
> > out of your day to vote, it would be appreciated.
> >
> > http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/
> >
> > -Ari
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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I voted!

I also sent a strongly-worded letter about the devolution of a genuine
medical phrase, "autistic spectrum", into the grammar fiasco, "autism
spectrum". It's a pet peeve of mine and I am now perseverating on it.
"Autism" isn't an adjective, therefore cannot modify "spectrum". Sigh.

Shannon :-)


--- "Ari N." <Aneeman@...> wrote:

> The IAN Project, which is funded by Autism Speaks and hosted by
> Kennedy
> Krieger, is hosting a poll directed at adults on the spectrum, asking
> if we
> want a "cure". Let's give them a strong and unequivocal "No."
> Currently, the
> polling is running about 57% against a cure. If you could take a few
> seconds
> out of your day to vote, it would be appreciated.
>
> http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/
>
> -Ari
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> --
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Done.

The "No" vote is up to 75%.

--- "Ari N." <Aneeman@...> wrote:

> Try it now:
> http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/
>
> On Jan 9, 2008 10:56 PM, Gracie Groove
> <mscoolout@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > I agree on the vote, but the link didn't work for
> me
> > even after I deleted a few spaces. Could you
> repost?
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ari N. <Aneeman@...
> <Aneeman%40gmail.com>>
> > > Bcc: kgrant5709@... <kgrant5709%40aol.com>
> > > Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 6:39 pm
> > > Subject: [AS-and-Proud-of-it] Poll on IANProject
> > > About Cure
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The IAN Project, which is funded by Autism
> Speaks
> > > and hosted by Kennedy
> > > Krieger, is hosting a poll directed at adults on
> the
> > > spectrum, asking if we
> > > want a "cure". Let's give them a strong and
> > > unequivocal "No." Currently, the
> > > polling is running about 57% against a cure. If
> you
> > > could take a few seconds
> > > out of your day to vote, it would be
> appreciated.
> > >
> > > http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/
> > >
> > > -Ari
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
>
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> >
> >
>
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Try it now: http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/

On Jan 9, 2008 10:56 PM, Gracie Groove <mscoolout@...> wrote:

>
> I agree on the vote, but the link didn't work for me
> even after I deleted a few spaces. Could you repost?
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ari N. <Aneeman@... <Aneeman%40gmail.com>>
> > Bcc: kgrant5709@... <kgrant5709%40aol.com>
> > Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 6:39 pm
> > Subject: [AS-and-Proud-of-it] Poll on IANProject
> > About Cure
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The IAN Project, which is funded by Autism Speaks
> > and hosted by Kennedy
> > Krieger, is hosting a poll directed at adults on the
> > spectrum, asking if we
> > want a "cure". Let's give them a strong and
> > unequivocal "No." Currently, the
> > polling is running about 57% against a cure. If you
> > could take a few seconds
> > out of your day to vote, it would be appreciated.
> >
> > http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/
> >
> > -Ari
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________
> > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL
> > Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
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> Gonna make you think if it's the last thing I do.
>
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> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
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>
>


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I agree on the vote, but the link didn't work for me
even after I deleted a few spaces.  Could you repost?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ari N. <Aneeman@...>
> Bcc: kgrant5709@...
> Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 6:39 pm
> Subject: [AS-and-Proud-of-it] Poll on IANProject
> About Cure
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The IAN Project, which is funded by Autism Speaks
> and hosted by Kennedy
> Krieger, is hosting a poll directed at adults on the
> spectrum, asking if we
> want a "cure". Let's give them a strong and
> unequivocal "No." Currently, the
> polling is running about 57% against a cure. If you
> could take a few seconds
> out of your day to vote, it would be appreciated.
>
> http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/
>
> -Ari
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
> --
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Thanks, 'Xenia'.

-Ari

On Jan 9, 2008 10:16 PM, <KGrant5709@...> wrote:

>
> Ari:
>
> I answered the IANProject thing about a cure.? I am against a cure.?
>
> Xenia Grant
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ari N. <Aneeman@... <Aneeman%40gmail.com>>
> Bcc: kgrant5709@... <kgrant5709%40aol.com>
> Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 6:39 pm
> Subject: [AS-and-Proud-of-it] Poll on IANProject About Cure
>
> The IAN Project, which is funded by Autism Speaks and hosted by Kennedy
> Krieger, is hosting a poll directed at adults on the spectrum, asking if
> we
> want a "cure". Let's give them a strong and unequivocal "No." Currently,
> the
> polling is running about 57% against a cure. If you could take a few
> seconds
> out of your day to vote, it would be appreciated.
>
> http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/
>
> -Ari
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> --
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> __________________________________________________________
> More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! -
> http://webmail.aol.com
>
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Ari:

I answered the IANProject thing about a cure.? I am against a cure.?

Xenia Grant







-----Original Message-----
From: Ari N. <Aneeman@...>
Bcc: kgrant5709@...
Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 6:39 pm
Subject: [AS-and-Proud-of-it] Poll on IANProject About Cure










The IAN Project, which is funded by Autism Speaks and hosted by Kennedy
Krieger, is hosting a poll directed at adults on the spectrum, asking if we
want a "cure". Let's give them a strong and unequivocal "No." Currently, the
polling is running about 57% against a cure. If you could take a few seconds
out of your day to vote, it would be appreciated.

http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/

-Ari


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The IAN Project, which is funded by Autism Speaks and hosted by Kennedy
Krieger, is hosting a poll directed at adults on the spectrum, asking if we
want a "cure". Let's give them a strong and unequivocal "No." Currently, the
polling is running about 57% against a cure. If you could take a few seconds
out of your day to vote, it would be appreciated.

http://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/

-Ari


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An interview (broken in 4 parts) with Agnetha
Faltskog (The ABBA Blonde ;-). Enough evidence
(esp. from part 2) that she is One Of Us ?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MPLPy2Eb2dQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bNoSAje5ZL0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lHRCGJLIs0k
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OP-mqb1iFso

     Thank you for thinking about this,
     Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania

Hello all,

Below is a message from Ian Schmidt, coordinator of the Autistic Self
Advocacy Network's New Jersey Social/Support Group. The Autistic Self
Advocacy Network is a grassroots, volunteer organization of people on the
autism spectrum working to provide opportunities for adults and youth on the
spectrum to interact with each other, advocate for increased representation
of the autistic self-advocate community in public policy and promote
autistic culture and neurodiversity.

Details on the time and location are below. The meeting is open to all
adults on the autism spectrum, including but not limited to Asperger's, NLD,
PDD-NOS and other autism spectrum neurologies. ASAN encourages family
members and other allies of the autistic community to contact us at
info@... if they are interested in being informed about
future meetings open to the general public. Please e-mail
IanS73@... RSVP or go
here <http://aspergers.meetup.com/318/calendar/6878989/>. Please indicate in
your e-mail if you require any accommodations to attend.

Thank you and we look forward to seeing you there.

Regards,
Ari Ne'eman
The Autistic Self Advocacy Network, President
http://www.autisticadvocacy.org
info@...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ian Schmidt <ians73@...>
Date: Dec 18, 2007 10:23 PM
Subject: NJ Group - January meet details


Hi!  Here's the info on our next meeting, barring any flashes of inspiration
or natural disasters :)  Please pass it along to anyone you know who might
be interested.

ASAN's Jersey Social/Support Group is having its 3rd session on: Saturday,
January 12th 2008 @ 1:00
We'll be meeting at:
Van Gogh's Ear Cafe
1017 Stuyvesant Ave
Union, NJ 07083

Its a quirky and fairly quiet little cafe and we had a great time there at
the last meeting.  One of the things we'd like to discuss at this next
meetup is the public perception of autism and ways we can change it; but the
we usually keep the conversation pretty free-form -- the most important
thing is that everyone has space to be themselves

If you'd like to come to the meeting, please RSVP to: IanS73@...


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Mircea Pauca wrote:
>     Is she and her method 'of ours' or 'of theirs' ?
> http://www.aspergercounseling.com/index.html
>     She seems to be knowledgeable in the real things
> about AS, still describing in clinical terms 'deficits'...
>     'Processing' stressful and 'translating' misunderstood
> incidents is correctly emphasized. But it seems in her
> 'facilitated mirroring' other AS do most of the work ;-)
>     Then what does she get the money for ?? ;-)

For establishing a venue where AS *can* "do most of the work".
For acting as a trained facilitator of "the work", and
for trying to guide it to successful conclusions.

I don't know if she's "of ours" or "of theirs".  I suppose, in time, we
and her clients will find out.  ...Especially her clients.

- Bill, 75, AS

--
WD "Bill" Loughman  -  Berkeley, California  USA
http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm

Is she and her method 'of ours' or 'of theirs' ?
http://www.aspergercounseling.com/index.html
     She seems to be knowledgeable in the real things
about AS, still describing in clinical terms 'deficits'...
     'Processing' stressful and 'translating' misunderstood
incidents is correctly emphasized. But it seems in her
'facilitated mirroring' other AS do most of the work ;-)
     Then what does she get the money for ?? ;-)

     Thank you for thinking about this,
     Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania

In a presentation about autism some professor
showed a test for various levels of 'social cognition'.
     An animation of simple shapes (triangles, circles...)
danced around, maneuvered, pressed, ejected etc.
     The test was to interpret how various children or
adults put a "story" to that...

I thought "so cute... a wargaming after-action replay..."

     Do you remember such a thing or tests ?
cannot be sure, it seems Fulvia Castelli tried it.

     Thank you for thinking about this,
     Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania

>     Recently, Greene writes on an "unified theory" of Power,
> Seduction and War. It seems he has (at least something) right
> with the human condition, and if so, are we AS doomed ?

I prefer to go with Goleman (author of "Social Intelligence) in that
social intelligence is about getting along well with other people, not
manipulating (or destroying) them.  Personally, I've long felt a need
to build up some sort of community around me, to help provide stability
for everyone.  Unfortunately, it hasn't worked out to well.
Ironically, in societies where people have more than they need, they
tend to try to take even more, whereas when there is not so much, means
are more likely split up.

~Marcie

Hello all,

     Seeking sites about "strategy" I've seen this pointer and review
to a book by Robert Greene - "The 48 laws of power".
http://ask.metafilter.com/56881/The-Arts-and-Crafts-of-War
http://www.powerseductionandwar.com/images/fresh_prince.pdf
     It seems even black rappers have learnt from it to survive
their tough environment...

     Trouble is, I can understand some of what they say,
but definitely could NOT apply them to other persons in
real time. I can understand warfare strategy, but diplomacy.
     And, now looking back, it seems my interest in strategy and
history was a way to try to improve myself to resist better
against school bullying ! It succeeded very well to improve my
culture, but almost nothing against the practicalities of bullying...

     Recently, Greene writes on an "unified theory" of Power,
Seduction and War. It seems he has (at least something) right
with the human condition, and if so, are we AS doomed ?

     Thank you for thinking about this,
     Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania

"Stan's Computer" <vze2vfni1@...> wrote:
>
> On 17 Oct 2007 Mircea Pauca wrote:
>
> >     What I hate: unknown e-critters that launch
> > uncontrollable code; ActiveX; Flash (except when
>
> Most browsers can be set to not launch anything automatically.
>
> >     Any one more in the know can point to more
> > such current and near-future annoyances/threats
> > and ways to understand and protect from ?
>
> Firefox, with the noscript add-on.  You may also like the "adblock
plus"
> add-on.

I'm on slow dial-up (most of the time). What I do for this problem is
delete the flash program and use Webwasher to filter undesirable
content. I don't miss Flash at all (except when I *did* want to see
Amanda's autism videos on YouTube). When I go to a website that
*requires* flash I cross it off my list. Don't use Java either or
Internet Explorer (it used to annoy me greatly by taking ages to load
some flash content (even though I had no Flash!) and then tell me to
go to Macromedia website to get the Flash plug-in). I wonder if it
still does that? - who cares?

Here are my current statistics from Webwasher:
-------------------------------------------
  Filtered images:  2,921
  Filtered windows: 0
  Filtered scripts: 877
  Filtered layers:  0
  Filtered frames:  239
  Filtered forms:    0
  Filtered cookies:  0
  Good cookies:      0
  Cookies sent:      0
  Images received:   9,332
  Connections made:  16,648
  Kilobytes sent:   13.4 MB
  Kilobytes received ...
      directly:  132.9 MB
      via proxy:  0 KB

  Current connections:0
  Statistics since: Mon, 3. Sep 2007
-------------------------------------------

and that's just with the default configuration. You can make it more
strict to block more stuff (but, to the point where some sites will
not work).

I think the only solution is to "vote" for better / simpler designed
websites by using them over the overly-complex bandwidth intensive
ones (if you have a choice).

June

On 17 Oct 2007 Mircea Pauca wrote:

>     What I hate: unknown e-critters that launch
> uncontrollable code; ActiveX; Flash (except when

Most browsers can be set to not launch anything automatically.

>     Any one more in the know can point to more
> such current and near-future annoyances/threats
> and ways to understand and protect from ?

Firefox, with the noscript add-on.  You may also like the "adblock plus"
add-on.

> [On the contrary, I've also seen the objection that
> slow-Net users are also unlikely to buy other linked
> products so they don't matter ?!?]

Not always.  Some people just don't have access to broadband.

>     Also: I'd think imperatively appropriate that every
> Web designer tests his brand new creation with a
> "slow Net emulator" !

If you look at my pages,
the images are all provided with "width"/"height" tags, so that slow
loading doesn't interfere with the text, and most have "alt" tags of some
sort.  The text is designed to load smoothly, without excess "features".

See:
http://www.scn.org/~bk269/
http://www.scn.org/~bk269/telemarketing.html
  (text intensive)
http://www.scn.org/~bk269/plastics.html
  (image intensive)
http://www.scn.org/people/autistics/
  (autistic intensive)

As an attempt at providing an *alternative* to javascript, look at the
following with javascript turned off:

http://ani.autistics.org/email_test.html

The javascript version has automatic "mailto" tags.  The problem was that
not all readers are javascript enabled.  (The javascript "mailto" tags are
configured to confuse spam bots.)  The test version has the "noscript"
part of the first 2 addresses appear in a mode that permits cut-and-paste.
  (The raw html has the addresses pretty much munged.)

If anyone is running lynx or a vt100 terminal, or better yet, an assistive
reader, please let me know if the first 2 addresses on the
http://ani.autistics.org/email_test.html
can be read.

- s

I think I should be able to use any web site with lynx on a vt100.
Far too many web sites are a waste of my time these days. Also, even
with a fast connection, trying to view a lot of web pages with a 450
mhz G4 was problematic. The Java and animated gifs were enough to eat
up 100% of the cpu on myspace (yuck). But I just got a new iMac so at
least that's an improvement.


On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:23 PM, Mircea Pauca wrote:

>     Greetings from Romania !
>
>     Given the very slow Net connections here, I'd
> like to have some materials to show / URL's to
> point to current Web designers seeming too in
> love with flashy, wasteful modern technology and
> towards brief, to the point, economic page design.
>     Any relation to AS-vs-NT distinctions here ?
>
>     What I hate: unknown e-critters that launch
> uncontrollable code; ActiveX; Flash (except when
> really useful; I liked the extreme compression vs
> quality of .FLV video streams in YouTube); JavaScript
> for minor menus etc. easily doable in basic HTML;
> dynamic URL's; distracting side animations; frames (now
> I'm a little tolerant); "injected" links to ads, toolbars;
> Java self-installers, QuickTime (an incompatible
> version of course) to play music etc. Heavy processing
> on their side: PHP, SQL-based "calculated" pages etc.
>     I've seen horribly slow e-commerce sites that
> could have been much more convenient with just a
> fixed HTML structure (and maybe a hidden way to
> update them automatically).
>
>     All while useful _content_ is hard to find.
>     Any one more in the know can point to more
> such current and near-future annoyances/threats
> and ways to understand and protect from ?
>     What of these are designed to spy, pump ads
> or other $$$-related causes, what to cater to real
> or misunderstood NT "coolness", and what is just
> plain stupidity, wasteful tools and overhead waste ?
>
> [On the contrary, I've also seen the objection that
> slow-Net users are also unlikely to buy other linked
> products so they don't matter ?!?]
>
>     And then their servers get overloaded, and blame
> us users instead of streamlining their serving ability !
>
>     Also: I'd think imperatively appropriate that every
> Web designer tests his brand new creation with a
> "slow Net emulator" ! To represent not only less
> KB/s but also a long, unpredictable ping time.
>     If ping is X ms and main page has also N other
> linked files (images, frames, CSS...) then the load
> time is prolonged by N*X, or a multiple of that ?
> don't know the exact protocol - one file needs how
> many "pings" ?
>
>     Thank you for thinking about this,
>     Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Greetings from Romania !

     Given the very slow Net connections here, I'd
like to have some materials to show / URL's to
point to current Web designers seeming too in
love with flashy, wasteful modern technology and
towards brief, to the point, economic page design.
     Any relation to AS-vs-NT distinctions here ?

     What I hate: unknown e-critters that launch
uncontrollable code; ActiveX; Flash (except when
really useful; I liked the extreme compression vs
quality of .FLV video streams in YouTube); JavaScript
for minor menus etc. easily doable in basic HTML;
dynamic URL's; distracting side animations; frames (now
I'm a little tolerant); "injected" links to ads, toolbars;
Java self-installers, QuickTime (an incompatible
version of course) to play music etc. Heavy processing
on their side: PHP, SQL-based "calculated" pages etc.
     I've seen horribly slow e-commerce sites that
could have been much more convenient with just a
fixed HTML structure (and maybe a hidden way to
update them automatically).

     All while useful _content_ is hard to find.
     Any one more in the know can point to more
such current and near-future annoyances/threats
and ways to understand and protect from ?
     What of these are designed to spy, pump ads
or other $$$-related causes, what to cater to real
or misunderstood NT "coolness", and what is just
plain stupidity, wasteful tools and overhead waste ?

[On the contrary, I've also seen the objection that
slow-Net users are also unlikely to buy other linked
products so they don't matter ?!?]

     And then their servers get overloaded, and blame
us users instead of streamlining their serving ability !

     Also: I'd think imperatively appropriate that every
Web designer tests his brand new creation with a
"slow Net emulator" ! To represent not only less
KB/s but also a long, unpredictable ping time.
     If ping is X ms and main page has also N other
linked files (images, frames, CSS...) then the load
time is prolonged by N*X, or a multiple of that ?
don't know the exact protocol - one file needs how
many "pings" ?

     Thank you for thinking about this,
     Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania

Is there a Walmart near you ?  They have a large list of prescription drugs for
$ 4.00 each, I dont know if these are on their list but it is worth a try.  The
other options are the bus program that I have seen on TV that Montel Williams
sponsors, they go from town to town helping those that can not afford their
medicines, and you can also contact the drug manufacturer they usually have
discount programs.

   Hope this helps.

Rich Klingman <rich_man_36@...> wrote:
           Hi my name is Rich Klingman- i haven't posted in forever but I need
help- I am living on my own and am having terrible trouble making ends
meet. I am working, but only get paid every 2 weeks. I make too much
for food stamps or Medicaid. I desperately need money for Xalatan, an
eyedrop for glaucoma, which without insurance costs $86 a bottle.. If
anyone can help please send what you can to:

Rich Klingman
55 Birdsall St #3
Norwich, NY 13815

If you wish to send money through Paypal, my Paypal nick is Richintalent






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Hi my name is Rich Klingman- i haven't posted in forever but I need
help- I am living on my own and am having terrible trouble making ends
meet. I am working, but only get paid every 2 weeks. I make too much
for food stamps or Medicaid. I desperately need money for Xalatan, an
eyedrop for glaucoma, which without insurance costs $86 a bottle.. If
anyone can help please send what you can to:

Rich Klingman
55 Birdsall St #3
Norwich, NY 13815

If you wish to send money through Paypal, my Paypal nick is Richintalent

Greetings from Romania !

In recent times since my diagnosis, I found the page below
quite useful to show synthetically a variety of perspectives on
Asperger's, from the official definitions to Attwood&Gray 's
positive "Discovery" criteria, and from children to adults.
http://www.as-if.org.uk/criteria.htm
I can send that from my archive if you have never seen it.

But it seems that page is now down.
Anyone know just as good synthetic pages to point others to,
in an effort to explain oneself quickly enough over the Net ?

     Thank you,
     Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania

-
> 1) Acute senses or a need for a high amount of sensory input.
> Probably experiences defensive reactions to sensory stimuli that are
> not noxious or are mildly offending to most people.  An individual
> commonly experiences both defensive reactions and a need for input
> depending on the situation.
> 2) Lack of social intuition.  Experience in one social situation
> doesn't not translate to a different, but similar, situation. Thinks
> in terms of sensory experiences (e.g. thinking in pictures) or in
> literal language.

Very good points.  I have noticed my experiences leaning more towards
the 2nd point than the first - I have little or no social intuition, and
just like you said, an experience in one social situation doesn't
translate the way it should.

> Then there are the secondary characteristics.  Here's my list of what
> to look for in adults who may blend into society, i.e. are not
> obviously autistic.  Of course, with these, one has to look at the
> pattern and not just one or two (or three or four) charactertistics:
>
> Doesn't not make small talk or chitchat  (Very True).
> Monologues instead of dialogues (Oh, yeah)
> Patiently listens to others who monologue or is easily bored with
> listening to others
> Appears to "lack common sense"; "Social Intelligence" doesn't appear
> to match "rote intelligence"(I definitely agree with this one - my
common sense is nowhere near as developed as my "rote intelligence")
> Does not make much eye contact or does not break eye contact
(Yep...or, nope...as the case may be).
> Good memory (Yep - I can quote entire scenes [and sometimes, entire
movies], completely from memory).
> Detail oriented
> Does not care about social hierarchy or following trends  (That's me
all over!)
> Enjoys tasks that require intense concentration but has difficulty
> multi-tasking (Yep - that's me, too).
> Does not catch onto subtle social signals; does not understand tone
> of voice (including sarcasm) or body language (Nope - I don't).
> Does not know how to answer general questions, such as "What did you
> think of [blank]?" (Yeah, I have this problem, too).
> Avoids new social situations or groups of people (OH, YEAH)
> Avoids large gathering of people (See above).
> Enjoys being around people, but prefers to (or appears to prefer)
> listening to conversation rather jumping into conversation  (yep).
> Fakes "normal" socialization but is exhausted afterwards (and
sometimes, in my case, during).
> Fakes "normal" socialization by adopting a personality (Yep).
> Needs structure and routines (definitely).
> Difficulty making changes and transitions, especially when unexpected
(Oh, yeah).
> Experiences a constant background state of anxiety  (That's me)!
> Logical and very practical (That's me too!)
> Does not express much emotion (regardless of how the person is
> actually feeling) (God, this is scary).
> Speaks in a monotone voice or with repetitive or syncopated speech
(not so much)
> Appears to under-react or over-react to other people's emotions (YES)
> If overwhelmed, may "snap" or meltdown with no preceding signals
(Definitely)
> or "saves up" frustration for when alone (Yes!)
> Needs a lot of downtime (Yep)
> Appears to be obsessed with one or several topics (let's
see...military weapons, space exploration, NASCAR, IRL...yep, that's me,
too)!
> Engages in self-stimulatory behavior when excited (whether happy or
> agitated), such as hand-flapping, spinning, or rocking (or tapping my
foot constantly).
> Intellectually understand social rules but thinks they are ridiculous
(Yep).
> Prefers to communicate via e-mail (Oh, yeah).
> Understands animals, computers, or machines better than people
(Definitely)!
> Enjoys watching Monty Python (yep).
> Has a strength in one of the three "Ms": math, music, and mechanics
(Music - piano & guitar).

God, that was scary - reading that, it was almost like you knew me, even
though we've never met.....(My responses to your comments are in the
parentheses, in case you wondered).  Reading that list convinces me more
than ever that, although the psychologist who evaluated me says I don't,
I do have Asperger's Syndrome.

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Wow it's been really quiet here lately.

I'm preparing to write an article on adults with autism who don't
know that they are autistic.  Much of it concerns listing out
characteristics that one would look for in onself and others.  I'd
appreciate honest but kind feed back.

I was thinking that I should first mention the core charateristics of
autism, which so far I have as:

1) Acute senses or a need for a high amount of sensory input.
Probably experiences defensive reactions to sensory stimuli that are
not noxious or are mildly offending to most people.  An individual
commonly experiences both defensive reactions and a need for input
depending on the situation.
2) Lack of social intuition.  Experience in one social situation
doesn't not translate to a different, but similar, situation. Thinks
in terms of sensory experiences (e.g. thinking in pictures) or in
literal language.


Then there are the secondary characteristics.  Here's my list of what
to look for in adults who may blend into society, i.e. are not
obviously autistic.  Of course, with these, one has to look at the
pattern and not just one or two (or three or four) charactertistics:

Doesn't not make small talk or chitchat
Monologues instead of dialogues
Patiently listens to others who monologue or is easily bored with
listening to others
Appears to "lack common sense"; "Social Intelligence" doesn't appear
to match "rote intelligence"
Does not make much eye contact or does not break eye contact
Good memory
Detail oriented
Does not care about social hierarchy or following trends
Enjoys tasks that require intense concentration but has difficulty
multi-tasking
Does not catch onto subtle social signals; does not understand tone
of voice (including sarcasm) or body language
Does not know how to answer general questions, such as "What did you
think of [blank]?"
Avoids new social situations or groups of people
Avoids large gathering of people
Enjoys being around people, but prefers to (or appears to prefer)
listening to conversation rather jumping into conversation
Fakes "normal" socialization but is exhausted afterwards
Fakes "normal" socialization by adopting a personality
Needs structure and routines
Difficulty making changes and transitions, especially when unexpected
Experiences a constant background state of anxiety
Logical and very practical
Does not express much emotion (regardless of how the person is
actually feeling)
Speaks in a monotone voice or with repetitive or syncopated speech
Appears to under-react or over-react to other people's emotions
If overwhelmed, may "snap" or meltdown with no preceding signals
or "saves up" frustration for when alone
Needs a lot of downtime
Appears to be obsessed with one or several topics
Engages in self-stimulatory behavior when excited (whether happy or
agitated), such as hand-flapping, spinning, or rocking
Intellectually understand social rules but thinks they are ridiculous
Prefers to communicate via e-mail
Understands animals, computers, or machines better than people
Enjoys watching Monty Python
Has a strength in one of the three "Ms": math, music, and mechanics

> Dates are my weakest area.  Partly because my time-sense is
absolutely
> abysmal.  I just don't notice the passage of time the same way as
> others.  But the visuals associated with events (whatever the date)
are
> simultaneously both comprehensive and detailed.


I've noticed that I remember events based on where I was living, where
I was working, or what school I was in, or what grade if it's a
childhood event (I went to a small school where there was one grade per
classroom).  I don't remember specific years or ages associated with
the events but I can make an educated guess.  I have a friend, who's
not autistic but remembers an enormous amount of historical/politcal
facts and who can also easily remember what year something personal
happened - but he has a problem remembering what he said two minutes
ago.  I find that really odd.

Joseph Ledoux's "Emotional Brain" has information on how we form
memories though it may not be exactly what you (the original poster)
are looking for. "The User's Guide to the Brain" (by John Ratey, I
think) is really good and it probably had some things on memory.

~Marcie

Julie wrote:
> Wow, 72 years... I'm only 26 but I have little doubt that I will
> remember things just as well when I reach your age. Somebody even
> joked that they hope they don't end up in a courtroom with me, since
> my memory is so good. :)
>
> My memories are actually below average when it comes to faces, but
> in terms of personal life events and dates, my memory is superior.

Dates are my weakest area.  Partly because my time-sense is absolutely
abysmal.  I just don't notice the passage of time the same way as
others.  But the visuals associated with events (whatever the date) are
simultaneously both comprehensive and detailed.

> I'm really fasicnated as how this kind of thing works.

As am I.  But the complexities, let alone the *implications*, are enormous.
    Don't hold your breath :) ; but "real soon now..." I'll be updating
my website and fleshing out my very incomplete pages on AS cognition.
    Still, what *is* there might interest you.  My sig-line (below)
contains the URL.

>
> What did you mean about spacial cognition and memory?

Visual-spatial is contrasted with "auditory-sequential", which is very
much the more usual way that people think.

The "gifted" among us are more prone to V-S cognition than are "other"
folk.  As are Aspergians, and maybe also autists generally.

The term "Visual-Spatial" (as a learning and cognitive style) may have
been invented/coined by Linda Krieger Silverman.  Her (impressive) CV is
here:
      <http://www.visualspatial.org/lscv.pdf>
Lotsa good source info may be gleaned...

Her website:
      <http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/>
Look for the sidebar navigation entry: "Visual-Spatial Learners".

But don't stop with Silverman.  There's a lot of good stuff "out there";
it just takes a certain persistence (perseveration?) to find it.

>
> --- In AS-and-Proud-of-it@yahoogroups.com, WD Loughman
> <wdloughman@...> wrote:
>>Julie Esris wrote:
>>>I am someone who remembers events in her life from many, many
>>>years ago with reathtaking clarity. Anybody know of any books that
>>>address memory?
	 [  snip  ]
>>Can't help with books.  If you find any that address your (and MY)
>>kind memory, please post here?  Share?
	 [  snip  ]
>>   Those who post about this sort of thing often speak of
>>"visual-spatial" cognition.  This may be a concomitant of, or
>>prerequisite for, the kind of memory/memories we have.
>>   It's likely the same as or similar to Grandin's "thinking in
>>pictures".  Though I doubt her descriptions do justice to the talent.
>
>>- Bill, 75 y.o.

- Bill

--
WD "Bill" Loughman  -  Berkeley, California  USA
http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm

Wow, 72 years... I'm only 26 but I have little doubt that I will
remember things just as well when I reach your age. Somebody even
joked that they hope they don't end up in a courtroom with me, since
my memory is so good. :)

My memories are actually below average when it comes to faces, but
in terms of personal life events and dates, my memory is superior.
I'm really fasicnated as how this kind of thing works.

What did you mean about spacial cognition and memory?

--- In AS-and-Proud-of-it@yahoogroups.com, WD Loughman
<wdloughman@...> wrote:
>
> Julie Esris wrote:
> > I am someone who remembers events in her life from many, many
years ago with
> > breathtaking clarity. Anybody know of any books that address
memory?
> > Excellent memory where one remembers minute details (example,
what they were
> > wearing on the last day of camp one year) vs. people who. as my
friend would
> > put it. "just don't remember shit" (ie the kind of person who
could see an
> > elephant stampede through their backyard and not remember it
years later)? I
> > really would like to read a book about this kind of thing.
Anybody who can
> > help, let me know.
>
> Can't help with books.  If you find any that address your (and MY)
kind
> of memory, please post here?  Share?
>
> My own memory is suffused with very detailed images from even 72
years
> ago.  I can recall them at will, though sometimes with a little
effort.
>    Those who post about this sort of thing often speak of
> "visual-spatial" cognition.  This may be a concomitant of, or
> prerequisite for, the kind of memory/memories we have.
>    It's likely the same as or similar to Grandin's "thinking in
> pictures".  Though I doubt her descriptions do justice to the
talent.
>
> - Bill, 75 y.o.
>
> --
> WD "Bill" Loughman  -  Berkeley, California  USA
> http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm
>

Julie Esris wrote:
> I am someone who remembers events in her life from many, many years ago with
> breathtaking clarity. Anybody know of any books that address memory?
> Excellent memory where one remembers minute details (example, what they were
> wearing on the last day of camp one year) vs. people who. as my friend would
> put it. "just don't remember shit" (ie the kind of person who could see an
> elephant stampede through their backyard and not remember it years later)? I
> really would like to read a book about this kind of thing. Anybody who can
> help, let me know.

Can't help with books.  If you find any that address your (and MY) kind
of memory, please post here?  Share?

My own memory is suffused with very detailed images from even 72 years
ago.  I can recall them at will, though sometimes with a little effort.
    Those who post about this sort of thing often speak of
"visual-spatial" cognition.  This may be a concomitant of, or
prerequisite for, the kind of memory/memories we have.
    It's likely the same as or similar to Grandin's "thinking in
pictures".  Though I doubt her descriptions do justice to the talent.

- Bill, 75 y.o.

--
WD "Bill" Loughman  -  Berkeley, California  USA
http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm

I am someone who remembers events in her life from many, many years ago with
breathtaking clarity. Anybody know of any books that address memory?
Excellent memory where one remembers minute details (example, what they were
wearing on the last day of camp one year) vs. people who. as my friend would
put it. "just don't remember shit" (ie the kind of person who could see an
elephant stampede through their backyard and not remember it years later)? I
really would like to read a book about this kind of thing. Anybody who can
help, let me know.

JE



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