Greetings from Romania !

In recent times since my diagnosis, I found the page below
quite useful to show synthetically a variety of perspectives on
Asperger's, from the official definitions to Attwood&Gray 's
positive "Discovery" criteria, and from children to adults.
http://www.as-if.org.uk/criteria.htm
I can send that from my archive if you have never seen it.

But it seems that page is now down.
Anyone know just as good synthetic pages to point others to,
in an effort to explain oneself quickly enough over the Net ?

     Thank you,
     Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania

-
> 1) Acute senses or a need for a high amount of sensory input.
> Probably experiences defensive reactions to sensory stimuli that are
> not noxious or are mildly offending to most people.  An individual
> commonly experiences both defensive reactions and a need for input
> depending on the situation.
> 2) Lack of social intuition.  Experience in one social situation
> doesn't not translate to a different, but similar, situation. Thinks
> in terms of sensory experiences (e.g. thinking in pictures) or in
> literal language.

Very good points.  I have noticed my experiences leaning more towards
the 2nd point than the first - I have little or no social intuition, and
just like you said, an experience in one social situation doesn't
translate the way it should.

> Then there are the secondary characteristics.  Here's my list of what
> to look for in adults who may blend into society, i.e. are not
> obviously autistic.  Of course, with these, one has to look at the
> pattern and not just one or two (or three or four) charactertistics:
>
> Doesn't not make small talk or chitchat  (Very True).
> Monologues instead of dialogues (Oh, yeah)
> Patiently listens to others who monologue or is easily bored with
> listening to others
> Appears to "lack common sense"; "Social Intelligence" doesn't appear
> to match "rote intelligence"(I definitely agree with this one - my
common sense is nowhere near as developed as my "rote intelligence")
> Does not make much eye contact or does not break eye contact
(Yep...or, nope...as the case may be).
> Good memory (Yep - I can quote entire scenes [and sometimes, entire
movies], completely from memory).
> Detail oriented
> Does not care about social hierarchy or following trends  (That's me
all over!)
> Enjoys tasks that require intense concentration but has difficulty
> multi-tasking (Yep - that's me, too).
> Does not catch onto subtle social signals; does not understand tone
> of voice (including sarcasm) or body language (Nope - I don't).
> Does not know how to answer general questions, such as "What did you
> think of [blank]?" (Yeah, I have this problem, too).
> Avoids new social situations or groups of people (OH, YEAH)
> Avoids large gathering of people (See above).
> Enjoys being around people, but prefers to (or appears to prefer)
> listening to conversation rather jumping into conversation  (yep).
> Fakes "normal" socialization but is exhausted afterwards (and
sometimes, in my case, during).
> Fakes "normal" socialization by adopting a personality (Yep).
> Needs structure and routines (definitely).
> Difficulty making changes and transitions, especially when unexpected
(Oh, yeah).
> Experiences a constant background state of anxiety  (That's me)!
> Logical and very practical (That's me too!)
> Does not express much emotion (regardless of how the person is
> actually feeling) (God, this is scary).
> Speaks in a monotone voice or with repetitive or syncopated speech
(not so much)
> Appears to under-react or over-react to other people's emotions (YES)
> If overwhelmed, may "snap" or meltdown with no preceding signals
(Definitely)
> or "saves up" frustration for when alone (Yes!)
> Needs a lot of downtime (Yep)
> Appears to be obsessed with one or several topics (let's
see...military weapons, space exploration, NASCAR, IRL...yep, that's me,
too)!
> Engages in self-stimulatory behavior when excited (whether happy or
> agitated), such as hand-flapping, spinning, or rocking (or tapping my
foot constantly).
> Intellectually understand social rules but thinks they are ridiculous
(Yep).
> Prefers to communicate via e-mail (Oh, yeah).
> Understands animals, computers, or machines better than people
(Definitely)!
> Enjoys watching Monty Python (yep).
> Has a strength in one of the three "Ms": math, music, and mechanics
(Music - piano & guitar).

God, that was scary - reading that, it was almost like you knew me, even
though we've never met.....(My responses to your comments are in the
parentheses, in case you wondered).  Reading that list convinces me more
than ever that, although the psychologist who evaluated me says I don't,
I do have Asperger's Syndrome.

Bob



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Wow it's been really quiet here lately.

I'm preparing to write an article on adults with autism who don't
know that they are autistic.  Much of it concerns listing out
characteristics that one would look for in onself and others.  I'd
appreciate honest but kind feed back.

I was thinking that I should first mention the core charateristics of
autism, which so far I have as:

1) Acute senses or a need for a high amount of sensory input.
Probably experiences defensive reactions to sensory stimuli that are
not noxious or are mildly offending to most people.  An individual
commonly experiences both defensive reactions and a need for input
depending on the situation.
2) Lack of social intuition.  Experience in one social situation
doesn't not translate to a different, but similar, situation. Thinks
in terms of sensory experiences (e.g. thinking in pictures) or in
literal language.


Then there are the secondary characteristics.  Here's my list of what
to look for in adults who may blend into society, i.e. are not
obviously autistic.  Of course, with these, one has to look at the
pattern and not just one or two (or three or four) charactertistics:

Doesn't not make small talk or chitchat
Monologues instead of dialogues
Patiently listens to others who monologue or is easily bored with
listening to others
Appears to "lack common sense"; "Social Intelligence" doesn't appear
to match "rote intelligence"
Does not make much eye contact or does not break eye contact
Good memory
Detail oriented
Does not care about social hierarchy or following trends
Enjoys tasks that require intense concentration but has difficulty
multi-tasking
Does not catch onto subtle social signals; does not understand tone
of voice (including sarcasm) or body language
Does not know how to answer general questions, such as "What did you
think of [blank]?"
Avoids new social situations or groups of people
Avoids large gathering of people
Enjoys being around people, but prefers to (or appears to prefer)
listening to conversation rather jumping into conversation
Fakes "normal" socialization but is exhausted afterwards
Fakes "normal" socialization by adopting a personality
Needs structure and routines
Difficulty making changes and transitions, especially when unexpected
Experiences a constant background state of anxiety
Logical and very practical
Does not express much emotion (regardless of how the person is
actually feeling)
Speaks in a monotone voice or with repetitive or syncopated speech
Appears to under-react or over-react to other people's emotions
If overwhelmed, may "snap" or meltdown with no preceding signals
or "saves up" frustration for when alone
Needs a lot of downtime
Appears to be obsessed with one or several topics
Engages in self-stimulatory behavior when excited (whether happy or
agitated), such as hand-flapping, spinning, or rocking
Intellectually understand social rules but thinks they are ridiculous
Prefers to communicate via e-mail
Understands animals, computers, or machines better than people
Enjoys watching Monty Python
Has a strength in one of the three "Ms": math, music, and mechanics

> Dates are my weakest area.  Partly because my time-sense is
absolutely
> abysmal.  I just don't notice the passage of time the same way as
> others.  But the visuals associated with events (whatever the date)
are
> simultaneously both comprehensive and detailed.


I've noticed that I remember events based on where I was living, where
I was working, or what school I was in, or what grade if it's a
childhood event (I went to a small school where there was one grade per
classroom).  I don't remember specific years or ages associated with
the events but I can make an educated guess.  I have a friend, who's
not autistic but remembers an enormous amount of historical/politcal
facts and who can also easily remember what year something personal
happened - but he has a problem remembering what he said two minutes
ago.  I find that really odd.

Joseph Ledoux's "Emotional Brain" has information on how we form
memories though it may not be exactly what you (the original poster)
are looking for. "The User's Guide to the Brain" (by John Ratey, I
think) is really good and it probably had some things on memory.

~Marcie

Julie wrote:
> Wow, 72 years... I'm only 26 but I have little doubt that I will
> remember things just as well when I reach your age. Somebody even
> joked that they hope they don't end up in a courtroom with me, since
> my memory is so good. :)
>
> My memories are actually below average when it comes to faces, but
> in terms of personal life events and dates, my memory is superior.

Dates are my weakest area.  Partly because my time-sense is absolutely
abysmal.  I just don't notice the passage of time the same way as
others.  But the visuals associated with events (whatever the date) are
simultaneously both comprehensive and detailed.

> I'm really fasicnated as how this kind of thing works.

As am I.  But the complexities, let alone the *implications*, are enormous.
    Don't hold your breath :) ; but "real soon now..." I'll be updating
my website and fleshing out my very incomplete pages on AS cognition.
    Still, what *is* there might interest you.  My sig-line (below)
contains the URL.

>
> What did you mean about spacial cognition and memory?

Visual-spatial is contrasted with "auditory-sequential", which is very
much the more usual way that people think.

The "gifted" among us are more prone to V-S cognition than are "other"
folk.  As are Aspergians, and maybe also autists generally.

The term "Visual-Spatial" (as a learning and cognitive style) may have
been invented/coined by Linda Krieger Silverman.  Her (impressive) CV is
here:
      <http://www.visualspatial.org/lscv.pdf>
Lotsa good source info may be gleaned...

Her website:
      <http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/>
Look for the sidebar navigation entry: "Visual-Spatial Learners".

But don't stop with Silverman.  There's a lot of good stuff "out there";
it just takes a certain persistence (perseveration?) to find it.

>
> --- In AS-and-Proud-of-it@yahoogroups.com, WD Loughman
> <wdloughman@...> wrote:
>>Julie Esris wrote:
>>>I am someone who remembers events in her life from many, many
>>>years ago with reathtaking clarity. Anybody know of any books that
>>>address memory?
	 [  snip  ]
>>Can't help with books.  If you find any that address your (and MY)
>>kind memory, please post here?  Share?
	 [  snip  ]
>>   Those who post about this sort of thing often speak of
>>"visual-spatial" cognition.  This may be a concomitant of, or
>>prerequisite for, the kind of memory/memories we have.
>>   It's likely the same as or similar to Grandin's "thinking in
>>pictures".  Though I doubt her descriptions do justice to the talent.
>
>>- Bill, 75 y.o.

- Bill

--
WD "Bill" Loughman  -  Berkeley, California  USA
http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm

Wow, 72 years... I'm only 26 but I have little doubt that I will
remember things just as well when I reach your age. Somebody even
joked that they hope they don't end up in a courtroom with me, since
my memory is so good. :)

My memories are actually below average when it comes to faces, but
in terms of personal life events and dates, my memory is superior.
I'm really fasicnated as how this kind of thing works.

What did you mean about spacial cognition and memory?

--- In AS-and-Proud-of-it@yahoogroups.com, WD Loughman
<wdloughman@...> wrote:
>
> Julie Esris wrote:
> > I am someone who remembers events in her life from many, many
years ago with
> > breathtaking clarity. Anybody know of any books that address
memory?
> > Excellent memory where one remembers minute details (example,
what they were
> > wearing on the last day of camp one year) vs. people who. as my
friend would
> > put it. "just don't remember shit" (ie the kind of person who
could see an
> > elephant stampede through their backyard and not remember it
years later)? I
> > really would like to read a book about this kind of thing.
Anybody who can
> > help, let me know.
>
> Can't help with books.  If you find any that address your (and MY)
kind
> of memory, please post here?  Share?
>
> My own memory is suffused with very detailed images from even 72
years
> ago.  I can recall them at will, though sometimes with a little
effort.
>    Those who post about this sort of thing often speak of
> "visual-spatial" cognition.  This may be a concomitant of, or
> prerequisite for, the kind of memory/memories we have.
>    It's likely the same as or similar to Grandin's "thinking in
> pictures".  Though I doubt her descriptions do justice to the
talent.
>
> - Bill, 75 y.o.
>
> --
> WD "Bill" Loughman  -  Berkeley, California  USA
> http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm
>

Julie Esris wrote:
> I am someone who remembers events in her life from many, many years ago with
> breathtaking clarity. Anybody know of any books that address memory?
> Excellent memory where one remembers minute details (example, what they were
> wearing on the last day of camp one year) vs. people who. as my friend would
> put it. "just don't remember shit" (ie the kind of person who could see an
> elephant stampede through their backyard and not remember it years later)? I
> really would like to read a book about this kind of thing. Anybody who can
> help, let me know.

Can't help with books.  If you find any that address your (and MY) kind
of memory, please post here?  Share?

My own memory is suffused with very detailed images from even 72 years
ago.  I can recall them at will, though sometimes with a little effort.
    Those who post about this sort of thing often speak of
"visual-spatial" cognition.  This may be a concomitant of, or
prerequisite for, the kind of memory/memories we have.
    It's likely the same as or similar to Grandin's "thinking in
pictures".  Though I doubt her descriptions do justice to the talent.

- Bill, 75 y.o.

--
WD "Bill" Loughman  -  Berkeley, California  USA
http://home.earthlink.net/~wdloughman/wdl.htm

I am someone who remembers events in her life from many, many years ago with
breathtaking clarity. Anybody know of any books that address memory?
Excellent memory where one remembers minute details (example, what they were
wearing on the last day of camp one year) vs. people who. as my friend would
put it. "just don't remember shit" (ie the kind of person who could see an
elephant stampede through their backyard and not remember it years later)? I
really would like to read a book about this kind of thing. Anybody who can
help, let me know.

JE



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"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
--Albert Einstein



"Experience is the worst teacher; it gives the test before presenting the
lesson." --Vernon Law



"It's hard to fight an enemy who has outposts in your head." --Sally Kempton











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The link below has a link for a conference call made between several
prominent autism bloggers and a couple of clinicians.  The conference
is about an hour long.

~Marcie

http://www.autismvox.com/speaking-about-autism-on-revolution-health-
bloggers-doctors/

In February, 2007, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) announced the
results of two surveys of autism spectrum disorders covering 22 states.
Using the newly funded Autism and Developmental Disabilities Monitoring
Network (ADDM), CDC researchers found an average rate of 1 in 150
children with an autism spectrum disorder, with New Jersey at the top,
with a rate of approximately 1 in 100. On the surface, these figures
suggest an epidemic.

http://www.unstrange.com/essay.html

Autreat 2007 will be held on June 25 through 29 in Philadelpia, PA.
This is a retreat run by people with autism for people with autism.
You can get more info here.

http://ani.autistics.org/aut07.html

And here. This is a group for Autreat planning/questions.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/autreatinfo/

~Marcie

Carrie,

   As a mother of an AS child, I think the "head" piece would benefit during some
events, such as riding the bus or other cases when the noise and overload of the
sound are too much for him to continue and stay in touch.

   Please keep me informed and stay in touch.

   T. Latshaw

higgs_carrie <higgs_carrie@...> wrote:
           My name is Carrie Higgs and I am currently studying design at Robert
Gordon University, Aberdeen. My Honours Project aims to design a
product that will benefit children with an ASD (Autistic Spectrum
Disorder).

My interest in ASDs has grown during my time working as a part time
support worker at the Grampian Autistic Society where I work with
children aged 5-16 who have an ASD or communication difficulties.

At the moment I am developing two concepts for my honours project.
The first of these concepts aims to address sensory overload. I
have observed that sensory sensitivities can be a pivotal difficulty
in group situations, such as playschemes. I hope that by addressing
this, individuals will find it easier to integrate within a group,
or at least to cope better with playing alongside other children.
Though my concept is not finished, I hope to design a
headpiece that can reduce sensory overload. The child would have
choice and control over the headpiece. The aim is that the
headpiece would be in use while the child is distressed only. It
would address sound, sight and pressure (the application of pressure
around the head can be comforting for some individuals.)
At the moment, I am considering a simple, sound proof head
band with a push down visor. The head piece can be tightened if you
wish. Thus the pressure and light deprivation are optional.

The second concept looks at play and imagination. I have observed
that the most popular toys at the playscheme are those which are
simple and adaptable, (particularly those that can provide an
action), such as a parachute or big, bouncy ball.
I hope to design a large tree. Its branches could be
manipulated to provide the opportunity for numerous play movements
such as under, over, in etc. This would also assist children to
train their motor skills and sense of balance.
I hope that by designing an adjustable toy it will encourage
the use of the child's imagination regardless of where they lie on
the spectrum. I hope that this will also encourage customisation
and a high level of choice. As the children move a part of the tree
they can produce a slide or a shelter and the tree's form and beauty
will grow.
This product should help develop proprioception, balance,
imagination and interaction: turn taking, sharing and be fun to play
with!

It is vital that my outcome is primarily user orientated.
Continuous observation and collaboration with the user group will
ensure that my designs reflect social behaviour and relate to how
the product is used in reality.

Consequently, I would be very grateful if you could provide me with
information, opinions, ideas or preferences for either concept.
Which product do you think would be more successful? Any feedback
would be much appreciated and would be considered as I develop the
concepts.

Thank you for your time,

Carrie Higgs






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Currently, I plan on getting a lawyer, taking  the case to court, and getting
full custodial rights and guardianship of my two  nieces, Savannah and
Adelyn.
Within this journey, I'd like to ask everyone  for assistance, you can assist
in the following ways:
°  Making a contribution toward lawyer  fees  - (Any amount is welcome)
°  Giving advice in a private message  and/or on the blog board
°  Having your church pray for my two  nieces or pray individually for them
°  Other
Evidence so far:
° Father has a neglectful nature (leaves  children with Mother), in which
neglects the children. The Mother has put the  baby in a dog cage, catering her
away from getting hurt, she stated, and let the  oldest child fall down a
flight of stairs without tending to her needs after she  broke her chin. The
Grandmother stated she was scared and that's why she didn't  take the oldest
child
to the hospital. Therefore, she had a nurse come out to  the home and glue her
chin back on. If it was me in this case, I would have  definitely have taken
the child to the nearest hospital for her medical  needs.
° Father has a violent history
° Sister is currently using  drugs.
° Sister is being beat by a man she is dating  outside the marriage. Found
out through mother-n-law, in which she was visiting  and saw fist marks on her
body underneathe clothing  attire.
° Man she is currently dating has a criminal  record and is a child molester
° Sister is confused, staying up all night,  and hasn't called her immediate
family in 1-2 weeks. We're finding out  evidence from other family members (in
which are located closer to her).
° Other information, in which I'll mention  privately in a private message.
I'd appreciate any assistance you can give,  as lawyer fees are very
expensive, I'd appreciate any help. Thank  you!
Sincerely,
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Hello all!

My local newspaper, Saint Louis Post-Dispatch, has a
feature article in the Sunday Everyday section about
aytistic children becoming adults.

You can access the URL below to read the article, and
see the photos that go along with it. Photos are
removed in a few days. Now to read the article:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/lifestyle/stories.nsf/everyday/story/9040A998E1\
40DAEF862572C100776629?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22autism%22

Also in Sunday's paper here, The parade section has
info about the daughter of Burt Baccarach comming
suicide at age 40. She had AS according to parade.

That is all from me here. I am babysitting my
granddaughter, and we are having a blast!

Best to all!!!!

Terry Klasek
Saint Louis, missouri

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My name is Carrie Higgs and I am currently studying design at Robert
Gordon University, Aberdeen.  My Honours Project aims to design a
product that will benefit children with an ASD (Autistic Spectrum
Disorder).

My interest in ASDs has grown during my time working as a part time
support worker at the Grampian Autistic Society where I work with
children aged 5-16 who have an ASD or communication difficulties.

At the moment I am developing two concepts for my honours project.
The first of these concepts aims to address sensory overload.  I
have observed that sensory sensitivities can be a pivotal difficulty
in group situations, such as playschemes.  I hope that by addressing
this, individuals will find it easier to integrate within a group,
or at least to cope better with playing alongside other children.
         Though my concept is not finished, I hope to design a
headpiece that can reduce sensory overload.  The child would have
choice and control over the headpiece.  The aim is that the
headpiece would be in use while the child is distressed only.   It
would address sound, sight and pressure (the application of pressure
around the head can be comforting for some individuals.)
         At the moment, I am considering a simple, sound proof head
band with a push down visor.  The head piece can be tightened if you
wish. Thus the pressure and light deprivation are optional.

The second concept looks at play and imagination.  I have observed
that the most popular toys at the playscheme are those which are
simple and adaptable, (particularly those that can provide an
action), such as a parachute or big, bouncy ball.
         I hope to design a large tree.  Its branches could be
manipulated to provide the opportunity for numerous play movements
such as under, over, in etc.  This would also assist children to
train their motor skills and sense of balance.
         I hope that by designing an adjustable toy it will encourage
the use of the child's imagination regardless of where they lie on
the spectrum.  I hope that this will also encourage customisation
and a high level of choice.  As the children move a part of the tree
they can produce a slide or a shelter and the tree's form and beauty
will grow.
         This product should help develop proprioception, balance,
imagination and interaction: turn taking, sharing and be fun to play
with!

It is vital that my outcome is primarily user orientated.
Continuous observation and collaboration with the user group will
ensure that my designs reflect social behaviour and relate to how
the product is used in reality.

Consequently, I would be very grateful if you could provide me with
information, opinions, ideas or preferences for either concept.
Which product do you think would be more successful? Any feedback
would be much appreciated and would be considered as I develop the
concepts.

Thank you for your time,

Carrie Higgs

Hi folks -

Since the issue is coming up, it is important to note that the
mental disorder associated with Seung-Hui Cho is believed by
people knowledgable in the field is best described as

   Paranoid Schizophrenic Disorder

The spectre of autism was brought up when he was 8 years old,
and as far as I am aware was never an accurate description of
his conditions.  Not everything that appears as autistism is
autistic.

More to the point, the possibility of autism was raised over 10
years ago, was investigated thoroughly and was deemed irrelevant
to Seung-Hui Cho's diagnosis.  He was not autistic.  Cho had
been determined not autistic by professionals who raised the
issue and could have taken the "easy way out" by making a
determination of autism.

- Stan
Stan Protigal

http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=31610@wbbm.dayport.com&cid=11

Grinker discusses his new book on autism.

Dear All,

ASAN-Baltimore Chapter will be holding our monthly meeting on Sunday, April
15th at 1:30 PM. The location is below. If you have difficulty getting
there, feel free to call the number indicated. The meeting is open to *all
individuals on the autism spectrum without charge. *At some point in the
future, we hope to hold meetings on general advocacy issues open to both
autistics and neurotypical allies, but our monthly meetings are limited to
our autistic members. We plan to discuss general issues related to the
autism spectrum as well as future advocacy and activity ideas for the
chapter. Our meetings have a light, informal member-driven approach and we
discuss whatever our members are most interested in.

Light refreshments will be provided. Please e-mail me to let me know you're
coming and feel free to forward this message on to anyone interested in
attending. I look forward to hearing from you and seeing you this coming
Sunday!

ASAN-Baltimore April Meeting
Where:
Little Theater Classroom, 3rd Floor, Levering Hall
Johns Hopkins University
Homewood Campus
3400 N. Charles St.
Baltimore, MD 21201
732-763-5530

Regards,
Ari Ne'eman
The Autistic Self Advocacy Network, President
http://www.autisticadvocacy.org
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http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=345

This is a link to a new short video by Amanda Baggs, which talks about
autism through the analogy of rocks (Autism Rocks ;-)

~Marcie

Just Be <oxeneyed@...> said...
> > Makes me wonder what happens to us if they find the genetics are
> > extremely developmental. Means they might find a way to prevent...
> > then what would they do with us?
>
> Some people pay lip service to taking out the "bad" and leaving
> the "good".  If they can find a way to prevent it, you can bet they
> will.  Not that I won't be protesting with the rest.  And I'm sure if
> they make everyone homogenous people are going to eventually regret
> it.  We already know what too much homogeneity does to domestic
> animals and plants.  Species are supposed to have variety...

No no no. Species are supposed to be PURE BRED.

I saw a beautiful "Cavalier King Charles Spaniel" yesterday and
asked the owner about it. One of the nicest, cutest dogs. Just the
right size for me. So I looked it up. A genetic time-bomb. Attempts
to keep the breed pure have resulted in an almost obscene situation.

Lack of genetic diversity is VERY BAD.

-- Sean

Health

The breed suffers from a number of severe genetic defects. If considering
a puppy, ask to see its parents' heart and eye certificates to reduce the
chance your puppy will have the defects described below. [...]

Mitral valve disease

Virtually all Cavaliers suffer from mitral valve disease, causing
progressively worsening heart murmurs leading to heart failure. This
condition can begin to emerge at an early age, and is present in more than
half of all Cavalier King Charles Spaniels by 5 years of age. [...]

Syringomyelia

Syringomyelia (SM) is a condition affecting the brain and spine,
causing symptoms ranging from mild discomfort to severe pain and partial
paralysis. [...]

Episodic Falling (EF)

Episodic Falling is an 'exercise-induced paroxysmal hypertonicity disorder'
meaning that there is increased muscle tone in the dog and the muscles
are unable to relax. [...]

Hip dysplasia

Hip dysplasia is a common genetic disease in the Cavalier King Charles
Spaniel. [...]

Luxating patella

Cavaliers, like many toy breeds, are subject to a genetic defect of the
femur and knee called luxating patella. The disorder is believed to affect
20% to 30% of Cavalier King Charles Spaniels. [...]

Keratoconjunctivitis Sicca

Another common defect among Cavaliers is keratoconjunctivitis sicca,
colloquially known as "dry eye". The usual cause of this condition is an
autoimmune reaction against the dog's lacrimal gland [...]

> Makes me wonder what happens to us if they find the genetics are
> extremely developmental. Means they might find a way to prevent...
> then what would they do with us?

Some people pay lip service to taking out the "bad" and leaving
the "good".  If they can find a way to prevent it, you can bet they
will.  Not that I won't be protesting with the rest.  And I'm sure if
they make everyone homogenous people are going to eventually regret
it.  We already know what too much homogeneity does to domestic
animals and plants.  Species are supposed to have variety...

Marcie

> Nope.  Shows high; but it's a known family trait

Mine is too, from my father who also has AS.

Marcie

Makes me wonder what happens to us if they find the genetics are
extremely developmental. Means they might find a way to prevent...
then what would they do with us?

WD Loughman <wdloughman@...> said...
> Just Be wrote:
> >
http://www.nj.com/starledger/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-11/117177694297300.xml\
&coll=1
> >
> >   The UMDNJ researchers say they have found that children with autism are
unable to metabolize key fatty acids that help the body fight inflammation that
causes damage to the brain and other organs.
>
> Umm: "The New Jersey scientists are _cautious_, however, about their
> _preliminary_ results,..."  [Emphasis is mine. -wdl]
>
> >   I'm wondering if anyone else here, besides me, has had problems with their
cholestrol/trigylceride levels or inflammation.
>
> Nope.  Shows high; but it's a known family trait, probably genetic, and
> everyone in my family - for at least 3 generations - has lived in
> usually good health to beyond 90.
>
> >
> >   Marcie
>
> - Bill, AS

Just Be wrote:
>
http://www.nj.com/starledger/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-11/117177694297300.xml\
&coll=1
>
>   The UMDNJ researchers say they have found that children with autism are
unable to metabolize key fatty acids that help the body fight inflammation that
causes damage to the brain and other organs.

Umm: "The New Jersey scientists are _cautious_, however, about their
_preliminary_ results,..."  [Emphasis is mine. -wdl]

>   I'm wondering if anyone else here, besides me, has had problems with their
cholestrol/trigylceride levels or inflammation.

Nope.  Shows high; but it's a known family trait, probably genetic, and
everyone in my family - for at least 3 generations - has lived in
usually good health to beyond 90.

>
>   Marcie

- Bill, AS

http://www.nj.com/starledger/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-11/117177694297300.xml\
&coll=1

   The UMDNJ researchers say they have found that children with autism are unable
to metabolize key fatty acids that help the body fight inflammation that causes
damage to the brain and other organs.



   I'm wondering if anyone else here, besides me, has had problems with their
cholestrol/trigylceride levels or inflammation.

   Marcie


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I'm looking for ways to make my house more sensory friendly.  Any idea?

Thanks,
Marcie

I finished my recipe website - or at least it's close to being
finished.  Basically, right now, it's just my recipe book on-line
(which is going to be really convenient for me when people ask me for a
recipe).  In the process of doing it, I realized that my recipes use a
lot of ingredients, which may seem daunting, but then because of my
sensory sensitivies, I've had to utiliize a lot of weird recipes that
blend ingredients together.  Also, there are bound to be typos and
such - and I can't get all the fraction looking a like.  Well here it
is:

http://www.freewebs.com/recipesfortherest/

Marcie

From: Gracie Groove <mscoolout@...>
> I can see a certain forebodingness(?) about either.

I would presume it relates to what some or all clocks do, and people's response
to them.  The obvious connection would be to an alarm clock, which makes a
sudden noise.  Also people often respond in an agitated manner to alarm clocks.

Perhaps, when the kid is old enough to understand phobias, she can be encouraged
to play with a Big Ben or the like in order to build a tolerance.

> My thing is with mirrors, though.

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out why they always break when I get near them.

- s

> Digital as well as analog, or just one of them?>

Both.

--- In AS-and-Proud-of-it@yahoogroups.com, "alfamanda" <alfamanda@...>
wrote:

> She used to have an article up about this, and I've read some of the
> things from her family and friends at the time this came out.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021210024422/www.donna.inuk.com/autie/

That's her article.

Amanda