Even if I knew nothing about the choking game, this leaves me queasy, it's very disturbing that this be in a child's book, much less be read by a kid who's heard about asphyx games. Who is this Ian Livingstone? ~Dianna Jason's mom

William Knauss <daltsdad@...> wrote:

This is kind of muddled using Googles rudimentary
translator tool but here goes:

"the suave scents which emanate from the foliage of
the tree have on you an effect alleviating and
soporific.  As your eyelids are closed, you do not
notice the thick liana which slips surreptitiously
towards you while being dropped from branch in branch.
It is rolled up silently around your neck and is
tightened little by little.  You awake suffocating and
you try to catch your sword, posed with your feet.  1
If you are lucky, you tighten the arm and you just
manage to fire your sword from the end of the fingers.
But YOU CANNOT BREATHE ANY MORE now and the VEINS OF
YOUR NECK ARE ABOUT TO BURST WHILE YOUR FACE TAKES a
SCARLET COLOUR.  You slice the lianas with the ENERGY
OF the DESESPOIR until you managed in extremis to
release you from their MORTAL INFLUENCE.  You cough
abondemment and you rub the neck by contemplating the
purplished sap which runs out of appalling the
végétal.Certes you were likely TO ESCAPE the claws
from the carnivorous tree, but you do not draw any
without damage.  You lose a point of skill and two
points of endurance.  2 If you are unlucky person, in
spite of all your efforts, YOU DO NOT MANAGE TO
COLLECT YOUR EPEE.  Liana SE TIGHTENS AROUND YOUR NECK
AND YOU ARE NOT LONG In LOSING CONSCIOUSNESS.  You
were the prey of a carnivorous tree."  (the island of
the king lizard, collection "a book you are the hero",
FOLIO JUNIOR Gallimard editor)

--- Dianna Brendle <jasonsmom285@...> wrote:

> Ok someone translate this, PLEASE. Thank you
> Francoise! ~Dianna Jason's mom
>
> frcochet@... wrote:body, table, tr, td,
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>
> I give you here the french text,(if some of you can
> translate it, Carol???) who was opened on the bed of
> the young boy when he died,and near him was the
> "épée"which is mentionned in the text...:
>
> 
>
> "Les senteurs suaves qui émanent du feuillage de
> l'arbre ont sur vous un effet apaisant et
> soporifique. Comme vos paupières se ferment, vous ne
> remarquez pas l'épaisse liane qui glisse
> subrepticement vers vous en se laissant tomber de
> branche en branche.
>
> Elle s'enroule silencieusement autour de votre cou
> et se resserre peu à peu. Vous vous réveillez
> suffocant et vous tentez d'attraper votre épée,
> posée à vos pieds.
>
> 
>
> 1/ Si vous êtes chanceux, vous tendez le bras et
> vous parvenez tout juste à tirer votre épée du bout
> des doigts.
>
> Mais VOUS NE POUVEZ PLUS RESPIRER à présent et LES
> VEINES DE VOTRE COU SONT SUR LE POINT D'ECLATER
> TANDIS QUE VOTRE VISAGE PREND UNE TEINTE ECARLATE.
> Vous tranchez les lianes avec l'ENERGIE DU DESESPOIR
> jusqu'à ce que vous parveniez in extremis à vous
> libérer de leur MORTELLE EMPRISE.
>
> Vous toussez abondemment et vous vous frottez le cou
> en contemplant la sève violacée qui s'écoule de
> l'effroyable végétal.Certes vous avez eu DE LA
> CHANCE D'ECHAPPER aux griffes de l'arbre carnivore,
> mais vous ne vous en tirez pas sans dommage.
>
> Vous perdez un point d'habileté et deux points
> d'endurance.
>
> 
>
> 2/ Si vous êtes malchanceux, en dépit de tous vos
> efforts, VOUS NE PARVENEZ PAS A RAMASSER VOTRE EPEE.
> La liane SE RESSERRE AUTOUR DE VOTRE COU ET VOUS NE
> TARDEZ PAS A PERDRE CONNAISSANCE.
>
> Vous avez été la proie d'un arbre carnivore."
>
> 
>
> (L'île du roi lézard , collection "un livre dont
> vous êtes le héros" , FOLIO JUNIOR éditeur
> Gallimard)
>
>
> ----Message d'origine----
> A: APEAS@yahoogroups.com
> De: Dianna Brendle
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:20:14 -0700 (PDT)
> Sujet: Re: Re: [APEAS] Re: To the choking games:
>
>
> I found the book on Amazon.com. It's a fighting
> fantasy book. Ian Livingstone, the author, has also
> written some other books with Steve Jackson and
> Dungeon and Dragons is mentioned in some of the book
> reviews, also mentioned is how you have to fight to
> survive, etc in the fantasy books. They seem strange
> to me and I'd love to see one. Island of the Lizard
> King is available in paperback at Amazon and their
> books are for children aged 9 to 12. I checked our
> local library, they dont carry them. A book
> describing how to do this and encouraging choking
> yourself should be banned and I'm not a book banner.
> Some of their books were written in the mid 80's and
> some of the book reviews said some were now out of
> print. My son died in 1999 when he was 14, he didnt
> own any of these books and I never saw him bring one
> home from school. He also was not interested in
> Dungeons and Dragons, I was a book store manager at
> that time, D&D was very popular with teenagers, I
> could never understand it even
>  when they explained it to me, it just sounded
> weird. We had a whole bay for D&D books, but I dont
> remember these fighting fantasy books. ~~Dianna
> Jason'smom
>
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>
> The tittle in french is "l'île du lézard",I will
> give you tomorrow the references and the
> author,because I have not it with me here
>
> ----Message d'origine----
> A: APEAS@yahoogroups.com
> De: kelly and debra sims
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:00:58 -0700 (PDT)
> Sujet: Re: [APEAS] Re: To the choking games:
>
> Francoise,  what is the name of the book?  Who is
> the author? Who is the publisher?  I would like to
> get a copy.  Thanks Debra
>
> frcochet@... wrote: body, table, tr,
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>
> Hello Q,
>
> I am ok with you,and  that's why I make so much
> energy to prevent parents and children.
>
> 
>
> But I don't agree entirely with you ,I know it's
> possible to stop it when all the problem is well
> explained,many young people I know did it.
>
> 
>
> For the book,it is a book wrote for children of 8 to
> 12,it presents that as a game,and tell the children
> are perhaps not courageous enough to try but...and
> the children want to try to be courageous,and for me
> it's just like a crime! Why this book is sold,why is
> it so difficult to alert and so easy to publish such
> a book?
>
> That's a real myster for me...
>
> The best thing to do is to prevent,even the children
> of 5!! !
>
> Sorry for the bad english,I hope you can either
> understand,
>
> Françoise
>
>
> ----Message d'origine----
> A: APEAS@yahoogroups.com
> De: "Q. Fox"
> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:58:56 -0000
> Sujet: [APEAS] Re: To the choking games:
>
> Hello Françoise!
>
> I am glad you are on line again, bad luck again the
> horrible fatality..
>
> Françoise, you wrote:  "How to read all the books we
> buy to our
> children???" I am afraid it is not possible. It is
> not possible to
> censure every text, to watch every talk, to filter
> every information.
> Even total censure is not enough to prevent
> fatalities.
>
> My opinion is: The defence against AEA fatalities
> should be more complex.
>
> The first defence line should be warning at the very
> first level of
> basic, primary, or similar grade of school. The
> children should know
> what is it the accidental choking, what happens if
> occurs and they
> should know, if somebody is afflicted by choking, he
> is not able to
> help himself, he is dying if nobody helps him. It
> should be integral
> part of first aid instructions.
>
> The second defence line should be information about
> asphyxiophillic
> addiction as part of warning against drug addiction.
> Most of schools
> have a warning against drug abuse in their education
> system. The
> asphyxiophility should be involved within other
> drugs – the same as
> warning against heroin. Children should know the
> choking play might
> build hard addiction - the same as for example
> heroin.
>
> The third defence line should be part of drug
> counselling
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Blessings,Billhttp://profiles.yahoo.com/daltsdad

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