I'm not sure about the allergies but you could go to www.westonaprice.org and
search their website for info. I live near Bham and the raw milk options here
are scarce. I've been drinking it for over 2 years now. Its pretty difficult to
obtain unless you are willing to drive a good ways. Email me privately and I
will be glad to share with you what I know in regards to sources.
Kim
--- In AL_WAPF@yahoogroups.com, "Amy" <rsjamj@...> wrote:
>
> Recently I was told that to help combat allergies (which lead to my cronic
sinus infections) I should give raw milk a try.
>
> Anyone have an info on this?  Is it just cow's milk (I was told cow's) or can
I also seek and get benefits from goat's milk.
>
> I have gone to a few sites and am not sure what the closest option to
Birmingham is.  And most say for animal consumption, I assume because it is not
legal to sell it for human consumption.  But since I sometimes drink from my
dog's bowl anyway I figure I am safe! :-)
>
> So basically I am hoping to learn more about this, so anyone want to give me
some info on raw milk and allergies?
>

Recently I was told that to help combat allergies (which lead to my cronic sinus
infections) I should give raw milk a try.

Anyone have an info on this?  Is it just cow's milk (I was told cow's) or can I
also seek and get benefits from goat's milk.

I have gone to a few sites and am not sure what the closest option to Birmingham
is.  And most say for animal consumption, I assume because it is not legal to
sell it for human consumption.  But since I sometimes drink from my dog's bowl
anyway I figure I am safe! :-)

So basically I am hoping to learn more about this, so anyone want to give me
some info on raw milk and allergies?

I'm looking for a good place to buy cheap, good quality coconut milk (so
basically, anything that comes to your mind) in sizable amounts. Anybody got any
ideas?

I've seen Kombucha recipes calling for black and others for green tea. What I
had never heard was that the caffeine itself might be metabolized! That would be
very nice as a longer ferment would reduce both the sugar and caffeine levels
replacing them with cultured goodness.

--- In AL_WAPF@yahoogroups.com, Angel Atkinson <ange4him@...> wrote:
>
>  From my understanding the culture eats up some of the caffeine when
> culturing the tea.  The drinkable kombucha only has small amounts of
> sugar and caffeine in it.   I use green tea which has less caffeine in
> it.  The instructions I got with my culture said you can use either
> green or black tea.  It also said you can use herbal teas but you can't
> keep the culture going on herbal tea alone.  Every other culture you
> would want to use a caffeine tea and keep a healthy culture solely on
> green or black tea in case the one you are using on your herbal teas
> stops culturing.

I've started brewing Kombucha, but I'm not thrilled with the idea of drinking caffeine so I was wondering if herb teas could be used instead of green or black tea. Failing that, what about white tea? Thanks.

I've started brewing Kombucha, but I'm not thrilled with the idea of drinking
caffeine so I was wondering if herb teas could be used instead of green or black
tea. Failing that, what about white tea? Thanks.

I'll be here when you are ready.  Please call me at 476-4177.
Thanks,
Lynn Thompson

--- In AL_WAPF@yahoogroups.com, James Lambert <james.lambert7236@...> wrote:
>
> Lynn,
>
> I will probably take you up on this offer.  It probably won't be for another
> few weeks though because I'll be out of town.
>
> Thanks
> James
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:10 PM, obother4 <Chrsound@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > Every week (usually Friday or Saturday) I pick up milk in Rogersville at
> > the Honest to Goodness Dairy.
> > I will be glad to pick up milk for you and you can pick it up at my house
> > in the Trinity/Caddo area. My charge is $1. The milk sells for $5 a gallon
> > and whether you get 1 gallon or 5 gallons, I just charge $1 for picking it
> > up (that helps with ice and gas).
> > Just let me know if you are interested and we'll go from there.
> > Thanks,
> > Lynn Thompson
> >
> >
> >
>

April I can pick it up for you or you can call Mr. Eric Cornelius and you can
pick it up yourself.  Call me at 476-4177.
Thanks,
Lynn



--- In AL_WAPF@yahoogroups.com, "Fyreseer" <fyreseer@...> wrote:
>
> AL_WAPFI was wondering where I can find whole milk, or purchase a share in a
> cow (if necessary)?
> I'm in the Madison area. I don't need a whole lot, just about a gallon a
> week or so, usually.
>
> Thanks!
> April Robinson
>
>
>   AL_WAPF
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>     Posted by: "obother4" Chrsound@...   obother4
>     Mon May 11, 2009 4:10 pm (PDT)
>
>
>     Hello,
>     Every week (usually Friday or Saturday) I pick up milk in Rogersville at
> the Honest to Goodness Dairy.
>     I will be glad to pick up milk for you and you can pick it up at my
> house in the Trinity/Caddo area. My charge is $1. The milk sells for $5 a
> gallon and whether you get 1 gallon or 5 gallons, I just charge $1 for
> picking it up (that helps with ice and gas).
>     Just let me know if you are interested and we'll go from there.
>     Thanks,
>     Lynn Thompson
>

 

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Hello,
Every week (usually Friday or Saturday) I pick up milk in Rogersville at the Honest to Goodness Dairy.
I will be glad to pick up milk for you and you can pick it up at my house in the Trinity/Caddo area. My charge is $1. The milk sells for $5 a gallon and whether you get 1 gallon or 5 gallons, I just charge $1 for picking it up (that helps with ice and gas).
Just let me know if you are interested and we'll go from there.
Thanks,
Lynn Thompson

Hello,
Every week (usually Friday or Saturday) I pick up milk in Rogersville at the
Honest to Goodness Dairy.
I will be glad to pick up milk for you and you can pick it up at my house in the
Trinity/Caddo area.  My charge is $1.  The milk sells for $5 a gallon and
whether you get 1 gallon or 5 gallons, I just charge $1 for picking it up (that
helps with ice and gas).
Just let me know if you are interested and we'll go from there.
Thanks,
Lynn Thompson

--- In AL_WAPF@yahoogroups.com, Dy Edington <tbowmommy@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you!
>
> This is Jersey cow milk, and you're right - it didn't ever get clear evidence
of whey in the jar. I finally got nervous and poured it into the cloth - it was
thick and beautiful, but I think I may have let it set a few days too long. It
still smelled good, though, so I went ahead and strained it. I'll try it,
myself, before letting the kids get to it. :-)
>
> I'll be making another batch with fresh beets (the kids ate them before I
could do anything - not going to complain about that) this coming week, and will
let you know how the kvass turns out.

Yep, that's just how it happened with mine, and let me tell you, that is the
BEST cream-cheese-like-stuff I have ever had. Absolutely fabulous flavor. Btw, I
think I let mine sit out for longer than yours and I kept them war too because
as far as I know the only thing longer time will do is make the culture more
robust. Cheeses, after all, can sit for years.

--- In AL_WAPF@yahoogroups.com, Dy Edington <tbowmommy@...> wrote:
>
> Speaking of being very new to this *grin* - I'm trying to separate my milk
according to the "Whey and Cream Cheese" directions on pg. 87 of Nourishing
Traditions.
>
> It's been sitting in a sealed glass jar on the counter since late Sunday/
early Monday... and so far, no whey. No thinner liquid anywhere at all. It's
just cream and milk.
>
> Is this the most it separates, or am I supposed to wait for an actual
whey-like substance to appear in the jar?
>
> Thanks so much for any help you can offer!
>
> Quite looking forward to making beet kvass, if I can ever get the whey out.
:-)
> Dy
>

I found that separation is very different between goat and cow milk. Goat milk
separates big time. It ends up with a bit of curds floating on top of a big jar
full of whey. Cow milk didn't do this (I was, however, using buttermilk and
kefir cultures which probably made a difference). Instead, The whole thing
thickened up and the only way I could tell that it had separated was by twirling
the jars back and forth. When I did this I could see the mass of curds twisting.
Also, I could see holes in it. I think the holes are the sure giveaway that you
milk has separated. Lemme know how your kvass comes out! I'm really interested
in trying that too.

Here's a note from WAPF:

With all the dire warnings, where is the message about building natural
immunity?

Dear Members,

You are all aware of the dire warnings about swine flu, the outbreak that
started in the Mexican village of La Gloria and which local residents blame on
infection and/or toxins coming from local confinement hog operations.

The internet is abuzz with warnings bordering on hysteria (conventional media)
to a variety of conspiracy theories, and even to allegations that the pandemic
is a government fabrication designed to sell stockpiles of anti-viral
medications.

Conventional medical advice ranges from wearing face masks to taking the
anti-viral drug called tamiflu (which can have many serious side effects, see
http://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.asp?drug=21087&name=TAMIFLU.)

It is interesting to note that not once in all the media broadcasts have we
heard any mention of building natural immunity

NATURAL IMMUNITY
Fortunately, we do not have to sit back and listen to the news about swine flu
feeling helpless and anxious.  We can be proactive by simply nourishing
ourselves and our families.

Vitamins A and D in cod liver oil offer strong protection against infection of
all types, as well as against environmental toxins.

Vitamin C is important-either from vitamin C-rich foods like sauerkraut, or from
one of the natural vitamin C supplements recommended in our Shopping Guide.

Healthy gut flora provide 85 percent of our protection against disease.  Be sure
to consume healthy lacto-fermented foods and beverages every day and avoid the
foods that disrupt gut flora, especially refined carbohydrates.

Bone broth plays a double role of supporting the immune system and helping the
body detoxify.

COCONUT OIL
We are grateful to Beth Beisel, registered dietitian and WAPF member for
reminding us about the protective factors in coconut oil. Swine flu is a lipid
coated virus (http://www.pnas.org/content/98/5/2115.full.pdf+html), and thus is
inactivated by sufficient amounts of monolaurin.   (Our bodies convert lauric
acid, found in coconut oil, to monolaurin).

According to our own Dr. Mary Enig, two to three tablespoons of coconut oil per
day appears to be an adequate dosage to fight infection, even from virulent
antibiotic-resistant organisms such as MSRA.

There are lots of ways to get coconut oil into the diet: stir coconut oil in
some tea; make macaroons; replace some of the butter in baking with coconut oil;
and use it in cooking/saut�ing. Mary's oil blend (see below) is a good way to
incorporate coconut oil in cooking and salad dressings.

MARY'S OIL BLEND
1/3 melted coconut oil
1/3 sesame oil - expeller pressed
1/3 100% olive oil

Combine oils, store in a tight container, in an area free from sunlight, and use
in cooking or on salads.

COCONUT SMOOTHIE
Beth has shared this great smoothie recipe with us.

1 banana
1 cup frozen mango
1 cup frozen pineapple
1 cup orange juice
1/2 cup pomegranate/blueberry juice
1/2 cup natural yogurt or kefir, preferably homemade from raw milk
1/2 can coconut milk

Whirl in blender and drink to your health!

--
John Langlois,
Moderator

I'm starting to culture kefir and am having a problem: the milk curdles and I
can't find the kefir grains amongst all the curds. Does anyone know the best way
to handle this? Thanks.

We have a new goat milk source near Huntsville, AL.  Milk available from
Alpines, LaManchas, etc.  Goat Milk soap available, too.

Please email me off line for details or call me at 256-776-1499.

John Langlois,
Moderator

Greenpasture has Fermented CLO on sale right now for $24 a bottle.

http://greenpasture.org/node/131

Action Alert: NAIS in Appropriations Bill


The 2009 omnibus Appropriations bill, HR 1105, passed the House last week.  The
bill includes $14.5 million of funding for NAIS, which is significantly less
than the amount requested by the USDA for FY 2009.

Representative Obey (D-WI) included a statement in the record about the intended
uses of the appropriations for the USDA, including timelines and performance
goals for NAIS.  This statement does not mandate NAIS because it is not part of
the bill itself.  But it implies approval of USDA's Business Plan and pushes
USDA to move forward with implementing it, including the use of existing disease
control programs and other coercive tactics to implement NAIS.

Call your Senators and ask that they support an amendment to strip the NAIS
funding out of the bill!  You can find your Senators' contact information at
www.congress.org or by calling the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121.

The good news is that it appears that the provision that would have required the
School Lunch Program to buy meats only from NAIS-registered farms did NOT make
it into the omnibus Appropriations bill.  Thank you to everyone who contacted
their Congressmen last summer and fall to oppose that provision!

To read the Omnibus Appropriations bill, go to www.thomas.gov and enter "HR
1105" in the search box.  Click the option for "Bill Number" and then hit
"search."  Rep. Obey's explanatory statement can be read by clicking on the link
for "H1653-H2088" under "Note" (towards the top of the page of the search
result).

OTHER NEWS:

The House Subcommittee on Livestock, Dairy and Poultry has announced that it
will hold a hearing on Wednesday, March 11, on "animal identification programs."
The agenda and list of witnesses is not yet public.  Look for an alert as soon
as we get more information!

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john.langlois@...
www.foggybottomwebdesign.com
www.foggybottomfarms.com

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February 4, 2009 Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund Action Alert Raw Milk Bill HR778 In This Issue BACKGROUND ACTION TO TAKE TRACK BILL STATUS Quick Links Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund   Farm-to-Consumer Foundation   Weston A. Price Foundation   Farm and Ranch Freedom Alliance   Real Milk Links for Congress Find Your U.S. Representative   House Energy & Commerce Committee (click Membership)   Contacting the Committee   Contact Congress   Dear Donald,   Congressman Ron Paul has introduced a bill (HR 778) that would repeal the current ban on raw milk and raw milk products for human consumption in interstate commerce.  The ban has made it more difficult for consumers to access raw milk and has hurt the ability of raw milk producers to make a living. Passage of the bill into law would go a long way to stopping the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in its efforts to completely shut down the supply of raw milk. To be successful, HR 778 must have co-sponsors.  Your help is needed.  Now is the time to mobilize consumers and farmers across the U.S. BACKGROUND  On January 28 Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) introduced HR 778, a bill "to authorize the interstate traffic of unpasteurized milk and milk products that are packaged for direct human consumption."  Under the bill, the federal government "may not take any action...that would prohibit, interfere with, regulate, or otherwise restrict the interstate traffic of milk, or a milk product, that is unpasteurized and packaged for direct human consumption solely on the basis that the milk or milk product is unpasteurized...."  The bill defines "interstate traffic" as "the movement of any conveyance or the transportation of persons or property...from a point of origin in any State or possession to a point of destination in any other State or possession...." Passage of the bill into law would repeal the federal regulation prohibiting raw milk and raw milk products for human consumption in interstate commerce.  That regulation (21 CFR 1240.61) provides, in part, that "no person shall cause to be delivered into interstate commerce or shall sell, otherwise distribute, or hold for sale or other distribution after shipment in interstate commerce any milk or milk product in final package form for direct human consumption unless the product has been pasteurized...." The regulation is judge-made law having been issued in response to a 1986 court order requiring FDA to prohibit the sale of raw milk and raw milk products in interstate commerce.  The people's branch of government, the Legislature, had no input in the issuance of the regulation.  The bill honors States' rights and would not force a State to legalize the sale of raw milk by producers within its boundaries nor would it force a State to allow the sale of raw milk from out-of-State producers in its retail stores.  As the law currently stands, raw milk cannot even be shipped from a State where its sale is legal into another State where the sale is also legal.  The bill would enable consumers to enter into transactions to obtain raw milk and raw milk products from other States without the transactions being in violation of federal law.  The consumption of raw milk is legal in every State, yet its sale is currently illegal in about half the States.  HR 778 would enable those living in States where the sale of raw milk is illegal-and those living in States where the sale is legal but sources are not present-to be able to exercise their legal right to consume raw milk.  As Congressman Paul stated in introducing the bill, "Americans have the right to consume these products without having the Federal Government second-guess their judgment about what products best promote health.  If there are legitimate concerns about the safety of unpasteurized milk, those concerns should be addressed at the state and local level." FDA's position is that "raw milk should not be consumed by anyone, at any time, for any reason."  The agency is working to impose this belief upon those who would disagree.  FDA is currently pushing some States to toughen their laws on raw milk production and sales while trying to move other States to ban the sale or other distribution of raw milk altogether.  Rather than meddling in the States' exercise of their police powers, FDA should be focusing its resources and attention on the many problems that exist in our faltering industrial food system. Raw milk producers stand to benefit significantly from the passage of the bill.  Nearby and accessible markets would be opened up to them with the passage of the bill.  Small dairy farms, whose continued existence is threatened, could be enabled to survive with the additional customers that would now be available to them.  Conventional small dairies suffering from the collapse in milk prices paid them by dairy cooperatives could transition to selling or otherwise distributing raw dairy products with a greater likelihood of success. Lifting the ban would also promote the local food movement by connecting consumers with producers who happen to live just across state lines.      ACTION TO TAKE HR 778 has been assigned to the House Energy and Commerce Committee.  Those supporting the bill should contact members of the Committee as well as their own Representative to encourage them to sign on as co-sponsors for the bill.  See links and committee members below. Supporters of the bill are encouraged to write letters and make phone calls.  Letters of one page or less can be sent to each member by email and then sent by postal mail.  Suggested points to make in the letter are as follows. 1.  The bill upholds consumer freedom of choice.  The consumption of raw dairy products is legal in all fifty states.   The bill enables consumers to exercise their legal right in States where the sale of raw milk and/or raw milk products is illegal or where there are no in-State sources. 2.  The bill upholds States' rights.  Decisions about the safety of raw milk should be made at the state and local level, not by the federal government. 3.  The bill supports family farms by expanding their markets for raw dairy products.  The bill increases the chances of survival for those dairies that are no longer able to subsist solely on the income from the dairy cooperative system. 4.  The bill promotes the local food movement by connecting consumers to producers who happen to live just over state lines.  5.  The bill would free FDA to focus on the pressing problems in our food system, e.g., tainted imports, under-inspected large-scale food processors.     Track Bill Status The status of the bill can be tracked on the internet by entering "HR 778" in the Search field at www.thomas.gov; be sure to select "Bill Number" instead of "Word/Phrase".   Click here to contact members of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce. Each member has an electronic mail webpage as well as a personal homepage.   Click here to contact other Members of Congress; search by state to locate your Representative.  For more contact details, you can also go to http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/.   Visit our website for more information and links at http://www.ftcldf.org/news/news-01feb2009.htm.        With Regards,   Pete Kennedy, Esq. FTCLDF Interim President

-- John Langlois
john.langlois@...
www.foggybottomwebdesign.com
www.foggybottomfarms.com

 

 

<<I don't know about other in my family but I notice a difference in how I feel when I am taking my cod liver oil vs when I forget and haven't taken it for a week.

Hope that helps.
Angel>>>

 

Angel, Can you tell us more about how you feel when you take it vs. when you don't? I feel like I should be taking some but can't convince myself to do it:o(

Tammy

 

 

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