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#5475 From: "Michael F. Margetis" <mfmargetis@...>
Date: Sun Jan 4, 2009 9:23 pm
Subject: Florence R. and Rollie H.
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FLORENCE RANKIN'S GRAVE:
In the Spring 2007 issue of "Markings" is an
article about the Washington (DC) Intergroup
(WAIA) locating Florence Rankin's grave.

It's a touching story about finding her burial
site in a rundown section of the cemetery
(George Washington Cemetery, Adelphi, Maryland)
and raising funds, privately, to purchase a
headstone. Apparently there was no headstone,
just a marker.

Bob W. and the WAIA archives committee are
doing a fantastic job!

ROLLIE HEMSLEY'S GRAVE:
Not long ago I learned, from reading old
baseball player bios, that Rollie Hemsley of
Cleveland Indians catcher 1940 anonymity break
fame, was buried at the same cemetery. I live
nearby and an AA friend and I visited both
gravesites recently. Quite an experience. If
anyone is interested in photos I'll be happy
to email them.

Contact me at:
<mfmargetis@...> (mfmargetis at yahoo.com)

Link to the Markings story, pg 4:
http://www.aa.org/en_pdfs/f-151_markings_spring07.pdf

Thanks,

Mike Margetis
Brunswick, Maryland

- - - -

From the Markings story:

Florence R. was among the first women to get
sober in A.A., and the only one to write a
story for the first edition of Alcoholics
Anonymous. (Her story, “A Feminine Victory,”
is now found in Experience Strength and Hope
with others from the first three editions of
the Big Book.)

We in the archives committee felt that as a
part of A.A. history she was deserving of some
commemoration, and so decided to locate her
grave. We called the cemetery offices and asked
if they had a grave site for Florence R. Their
search proved negative. We then recalled that
the death certificate was for Florence K. (her
married name) and called the cemetery again
with that name, and that did the trick. They
had such a gravesite recorded April 1943.

Making arrangements with the cemetery offices,
we arrived to continue our search. The
caretaker provided a map and a marker and
told us that they would give us help with
our search. Two cemetery workers arrived with
a shovel and a metal detector and off we went
—- to an unkempt part of the cemetery where
there were no grave stones –- just a lot of
weeds, trees, and leaves. After much pacing
off of distances, the two workers exclaimed,
“Here it is!”

The workers used the shovel to clear the area
so that the metal marker could be seen. We
planted the flag marker and laid down a single
flower.

The cemetery informed us how we could go about
purchasing a gravestone .... at our next
Washington Area Intergroup Association Board
meeting [the] consensus was that ... it was
inappropriate to use A.A. money. [But] when we
announced that private funds would be sought,
we left the meeting with sufficient pledges
to cover the cost of both the stone and its
installation.

- - - -

From Nancy Olson's biographies of the Big Book
authors:

http://www.a-1associates.com/westbalto/HISTORY_PAGE/Authors.htm#Florence%20Ranki\
n


A Feminine Victory -- Florence Rankin
New York City.
Original Manuscript, p. 217 in 1st edition

Florence was the first woman to get sober in
A.A., even for a short time. She came to A.A.
in New York in March of 1937. She had several
slips, but was sober over a year when she wrote
her story for the Big Book.

It must have been difficult for Florence being
the only woman. She prayed for inspiration to
tell her story in a manner that would give
other women courage to seek the help that she
had been given.

She was the ex-wife of a man Bill Wilson had
known on Wall Street. She thought the cause
of her drinking would be removed when she and
her husband were divorced. But it was her
ex-husband who took Lois Wilson to visit her
at Bellevue. Bill and Lois got her out of
Bellevue and she stayed in their home for a
time. After she left their home she stayed
with other members of the fellowship.

In part, due to Florence having been sober
more than a year, "One Hundred Men" was
discarded as the name for the Big Book.

She moved to Washington, D.C. and tried to help
Fitz Mayo ("Our Southern Friend"), who after
sobering up in New York started A.A. in
Washington, D.C.

She married an alcoholic she met there, who
unfortunately did not get sober. Eventually
Florence started drinking again and disappeared.
Fitz Mayo found her in the morgue. She had
committed suicide.

Despite her relapse and death from alcoholism,
Florence helped pave the way for the many women
who followed. She was in Washington by the
time Marty Mann ("Women Suffer Too"), the next
woman to arrive in A.A. in New York, entered
the program. Marty only met her once or twice,
but her story in the Big Book no doubt encouraged
Marty.





#5476 From: "Karl Kleen" <kkleen9@...>
Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: Florence R. and Rollie H.
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Would some member of the group who knows how to
do these things, consider adding Memorials for
Florence Rankin and Rollie Hemsley to the FIND A
GRAVE website?

http://www.findagrave.com/index.html

You could include photos of their gravestones
in their Memorials. That way we could all make
a (virtual) visit to their Memorials and access
any photos posted thereon. (Someone else might
have other photos that they could add?)

Several persons of interest already do have
Find A Grave Memorials.

Karl K.

- - - -

From the moderator: for example, Bill Wilson
and Lois Wilson, where Doug B. posted some
photos.

- - - -

In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com,
"Michael F. Margetis" <mfmargetis@...> wrote:
>
> FLORENCE RANKIN'S GRAVE:
> In the Spring 2007 issue of "Markings" is an
> article about the Washington (DC) Intergroup
> (WAIA) locating Florence Rankin's grave.
>
> It's a touching story about finding her burial
> site in a rundown section of the cemetery
> (George Washington Cemetery, Adelphi, Maryland)
> and raising funds, privately, to purchase a
> headstone. Apparently there was no headstone,
> just a marker.
>
> Bob W. and the WAIA archives committee are
> doing a fantastic job!
>
> ROLLIE HEMSLEY'S GRAVE:
> Not long ago I learned, from reading old
> baseball player bios, that Rollie Hemsley of
> Cleveland Indians catcher 1940 anonymity break
> fame, was buried at the same cemetery. I live
> nearby and an AA friend and I visited both
> gravesites recently. Quite an experience. If
> anyone is interested in photos I'll be happy
> to email them.
>
> Contact me at:
> <mfmargetis@...> (mfmargetis at yahoo.com)
>
> Link to the Markings story, pg 4:
> http://www.aa.org/en_pdfs/f-151_markings_spring07.pdf
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Margetis
> Brunswick, Maryland
>




#5482 From: "Michael F. Margetis" <mfmargetis@...>
Date: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:54 am
Subject: Re: Florence R. and Rollie H.
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Karl,

Rollie was already on "Find A Grave", I added
a photo that is "pending approval" from the
website. Hopefully that will be viewable soon.

I created one for Florence and submitted a
photo, so that should be viewable now. Remember
when looking up Florence use Kalhoun as her
last name, not Rankin.

- Mike Margetis
Brunswick, Maryland


--- In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, "Karl Kleen" <kkleen9@...>
wrote:
>
> Would some member of the group who knows how to
> do these things, consider adding Memorials for
> Florence Rankin and Rollie Hemsley to the FIND A
> GRAVE website?
>
> http://www.findagrave.com/index.html
>
> You could include photos of their gravestones
> in their Memorials. That way we could all make
> a (virtual) visit to their Memorials and access
> any photos posted thereon. (Someone else might
> have other photos that they could add?)
>
> Several persons of interest already do have
> Find A Grave Memorials.
>
> Karl K.
>
> - - - -
>
> From the moderator: for example, Bill Wilson
> and Lois Wilson, where Doug B. posted some
> photos.
>
> - - - -
>
> In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com,
> "Michael F. Margetis" mfmargetis@ wrote:
> >
> > FLORENCE RANKIN'S GRAVE:
> > In the Spring 2007 issue of "Markings" is an
> > article about the Washington (DC) Intergroup
> > (WAIA) locating Florence Rankin's grave.
> >
> > It's a touching story about finding her burial
> > site in a rundown section of the cemetery
> > (George Washington Cemetery, Adelphi, Maryland)
> > and raising funds, privately, to purchase a
> > headstone. Apparently there was no headstone,
> > just a marker.
> >
> > Bob W. and the WAIA archives committee are
> > doing a fantastic job!
> >
> > ROLLIE HEMSLEY'S GRAVE:
> > Not long ago I learned, from reading old
> > baseball player bios, that Rollie Hemsley of
> > Cleveland Indians catcher 1940 anonymity break
> > fame, was buried at the same cemetery. I live
> > nearby and an AA friend and I visited both
> > gravesites recently. Quite an experience. If
> > anyone is interested in photos I'll be happy
> > to email them.
> >
> > Contact me at:
> > mfmargetis@ (mfmargetis at yahoo.com)
> >
> > Link to the Markings story, pg 4:
> > http://www.aa.org/en_pdfs/f-151_markings_spring07.pdf
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike Margetis
> > Brunswick, Maryland
> >
>






#5483 From: charles Knapp <cdknapp@...>
Date: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:35 am
Subject: Re: Florence R. and Rollie H.
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For Rollie Hemsley, search in the famous names
section of Find a Grave for "Ralston Hemsley."

It has been there since 2006.

Charles from California


--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Michael F. Margetis <mfmargetis@...> wrote:

From: Michael F. Margetis <mfmargetis@...>
Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Re: Florence R. and Rollie H.
To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 8:54 PM

Karl,

Rollie was already on "Find A Grave", I added
a photo that is "pending approval" from the
website. Hopefully that will be viewable soon.

I created one for Florence and submitted a
photo, so that should be viewable now. Remember
when looking up Florence use Kalhoun as her
last name, not Rankin.

- Mike Margetis
Brunswick, Maryland





#5484 From: "Karl Kleen" <kkleen9@...>
Date: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: Florence R. and Rollie H.
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Silkworth and Dowling on "Find a Grave"

--- In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com,
"Michael F. Margetis" <mfmargetis@...> wrote:
>
> Karl,
>
> Rollie was already on "Find A Grave", I added
> a photo that is "pending approval" from the
> website. Hopefully that will be viewable soon.
>
> I created one for Florence and submitted a
> photo, so that should be viewable now. Remember
> when looking up Florence use Kalhoun as her
> last name, not Rankin.
>
> - Mike Margetis
> Brunswick, Maryland

Thank you Mike -- your photo of Rollie's
gravestone is indeed viewable now.

Earlier I had found the Find A Grave Memorials
for Bill, Dr. Bob and their wives.

Dr. & Antoinette B Silkworth have Memorials
also at:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Silkworth&GScid=99997&GRid\
=11339789&


and

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvcid=19285&GRid=11339783&

Fr Edward P. Dowling's Memorial can be found at:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvcid=19285&GRid=16958125&

Thank you for adding the material that you did!

Karl K.





 
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