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Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Fwd: Tradition Three, The man with the "problem other than alcoholism."
Hi
I was confused on parts of this last year in discussions about the 3rd Tradition. There are 3 incidents being intermingled that really have no cause/effect relationship:
1. The incident of the member who had an "addiction even worse stigmatized than alcoholism" (12&12 essay on Tradition Three) occurred at Akron, OH in 1937 ("on the AA calendar it was year two” pg 141). The "group's oldest member" and "one of the three" was Dr. Bob (Dr Bob and the Good Old-timers pgs 240-241). Last year in his search for an audiotape on the matter, David S came into possession of a tape of Bill addressing a Conference. Bill revealed that the member described his “addiction” as "sex deviate." The presumption is that the man was a homosexual (see AAHistoryLovers message from David S re Tradition 3 And Bill W.). There is no indication he was black.
2. The 2nd incident occurred 8 years later (1945) at the 45th St Club House in NYC. Barry L (Pass It On pgs 317-318) contacted Bill W. The prospect was black, an ex-convict, had bleached blonde hair, makeup and was a "dope fiend" (there is no mention of heroin). Bill's comments set the spirit of how the 3rd Tradition should be practiced. There appears to be an element of myth around this incident. Many in AA assert that the individual went on to become one of the best 12th Steppers in NY. Pass It On says, "The prospect was invited to attend meetings, and although he soon disappeared, his presence created a precedent for the Third Tradition." His role, though dramatic, appears quite brief.
3. Dr Jim S, a black physician, spoke at the 1955 convention in Cleveland (AA Comes of Age pg 37). He resided in the Washington DC area. In Jim's Story (3rd ed Big Book pg 483-496) it cites that his main assistance came from Charlie G. (his sponsor) and Ella G., who introduced Jim to his sponsor. Jim's Story credits him with starting the 1st black group but I don't know if that is factual or not.
"The man with the other addiction,” has no linkage to the black community or Dr. Jim S.
As far as ‘black outreach” is concerned, some in the Fellowship retrospectively (and much too idealistically) view AA as being elevated above the social problems of the times. Prejudice seems to have been as much a challenge within AA as outside it. Pass It On (pgs 315-317) speaks openly about the challenge (prior to the info you cite). On pg 316, Bill states, “In all the South and in most of the North, whites refuse to mingle with blacks socially.”
Blacks predominantly had to start out with black groups or were invited to groups as “observers.” Later Bill states, “As I long since learned that no man can dictate to an AA group, I tell each fellowship to abide by the wishes of the majority of its members. And if a group refuses Negroes socially, it ought to make a superhuman effort to help every single colored case to start a group of his own and permit him access to a few open meetings as an observer.”
Blacks started their own groups principally due to prejudice not preference. That might raise a howl or two within AA as being inconceivable. There certainly would be exceptions but there would be no compelling reason to presume members of AA were any different from the society of which they were a part (other than with booze). I'm still uncertain on how much the racial divide has been breached. There clearly has been progress but demographics are difficult to come by other than the membership surveys. They don’t seem to probe very far into the matter.
Cheers
Arthur
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:51 AM
Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Fwd: Tradition Three, The man with the "problem other than alcoholism."
I have discovered more history since posting this question. Please add this memo to the question. On page 315 - 318 of Pass It On, written by Bill W. as the documented history of Alcoholic's Anonymous there is more information related to the history of African Americans in Alcoholic's Anonymous. The indication, especially the last paragraph on pg. 317-318, is that Barry was doing desk duty at the club house on 41st St. The (black) man came to the door...He was an ex-convict, a vagrant, his hair was bleached blond and he had on make up; and he told us he was a dope fiend (heroin addict)...Apparently, it was Bill W. that was consulted by the group conscience, because Barry and the elders did not know what to do.
Bill W. apparently questioned, "did you say he was a drunk?" "Oh yes," Barry replied. "There's no question about that. He's certainly a drunk." "Well, I think that's all we can ask," said Bill.
Additionally, it appears from page 142 in the Twelve and Twelve that Bill W. responded, at some point, "What would the Master do?"
"The prospect was invited into the meetings." Additionally, in the Twelve and Twelve, there is the allusion, "Overjoyed, the newcomer plunged into Twelfth Step work. Tirelessly he laid AA's message before scores of people... Those scores have since multiplied themselves into thousands."
The appearance when you look at Pass It On and Tradition Three, combined, is that this gentlemen, assisted Jim, the founder of the first predominately black AA group in his work of spreading A. A. There is a reference to Jim's Story from Page 483 in the 3rd edition of the Big Book of Alcoholic's Anonymous. On page 317 in Pass It On, "...Jim S. a physician, was called the originator of A. A.'s first black group. ("Jim's Story" appears in the second and third editions of the Big Book).
The indication is that the predominately white A. A. groups used Jim S. (who was assisted by "the man with the other addiction" to spread A. A. into the black community.
Additional understanding and historical documentation is solicited. Please post this inquiry and allow the fellowship to educate itself regarding the history of black outreach from Alcoholic's Anonymous.
Thank you for your interest as, "A A History Lovers" in all the history of Alcoholics Anonymous.
Sincerely,
Larry W. Member of Alcoholic's Anonymous Kansas City, Kansas/Missouri
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