On Wash DC it's the boys of '39 (and Nov at that) tho' Florence and Fitz tried
independently in 1937 or 1938, apparently. The 1995 WAIA History is on the net
w/o footnotes, tho' some letters are quoted. The Maryland Archives I saw at
Minneapolis in 2000 have some letters from Ned F., but I don't recall if they
have anything useful.

> To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
> From: cm53@...
> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:26:33 -0400
> Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Re: First AA groups: Philadelphia, Wash. State,
Wash. D.C.
>
> Philadelphia, Washington State, Washington D.C.
>
> PHILADELPHIA:
>
> From: Cindy Miller <cm53@...>
> (cm53 at earthlink.net)
>
> well, I don't know how important it is to quibble
> over 2 weeks...BUT ...in regard to Philadelphia:
> Jimmy arrived in Philly on February 13. The first
> meeting was not held until Feb. 28. This date is
> validated by an existing letter that Jimmy sent
> to Clarence S. the next day (Feb. 29--leap year)
> in which Jimmy describes having a meeting with 7
> drunks the day before.
>
> -cm
>
> - - - -
>
> From: Shakey1aa@... (Shakey1aa at aol.com)
>
> BTW the 1st planning meeting in Phila was on Feb 29th,1940. It was a
> leap year. Jimmy sent a letter confirming the date to Clarence "Snider"(He
> misspelled Snyder) in Cleve.,Oh in a letter on file at the S.E. Pa. I.G.
Assn. Archives.
>
> There were alcoholics meeting in the office of Dr C Dudley Saul two
> years before Jimmy brought AA to Philadelphia.(1938) This can be proven in
> the documentation of John Park Lee. The meetings were not AA meetings but
> were meetings of alcoholic patients of the good doctor.
>
> Yours in Service,
> Shakey Mike Gwirtz
> Phila, Pa
>
> - - - -
>
> From: "J. Lobdell" <jlobdell54@...>
> (jlobdell54 at hotmail.com)
>
> The date Feb 13 is the date Jim B moved to
> Philadelphia, not the date he formed a group.
> Even so, fifteen days was pretty quick work.
>
> - - - -
>
> WASHINGTON STATE:
>
> From: buck johnson <buckjohnson41686@...>
> (buckjohnson41686 at yahoo.com)
>
> Washington State, first meeting of the Seattle
> Group, April 19, 1941 held at New Washington
> Hotel. From "Our Stories Disclose ... A history
> of western Washington Area of Alcoholics anonymous
> 1939-2002", Second Edition page 12 &13. Published
> by western Washington Area of Alcoholics Anonymous,
> Seattle 2004.
>
> Material from "The History of Washington State
> Alcoholics Anonymous 1941...1966, copyrighted
> 1966 by Everett K.
>
> - - - -
>
> WASHINGTON D.C.
>
> From: Shakey1aa@... (Shakey1aa at aol.com)
>
> AAHL members,
> How many of these groups, not meetings, flourished and continued? How
> many just met 1 or 2 times then stopped? How many can be confirmed and not
> just here say? I ask this because I remember that Bill and Fitz both asked
> Jimmy B to help out in Wash D.C. where AA was struggling and couldn't get
> off the ground. I've read what WAIA (Wash Area I.G. Assn) lists as their
> history and wonder what documentation they have that substantiates the "boys
of 38"
>
> Yours in Service,
> Shakey Mike Gwirtz
> Phila, Pa
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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