Philadelphia, Washington State, Washington D.C.

PHILADELPHIA:

From: Cindy Miller <cm53@...>
(cm53 at earthlink.net)

well, I don't know how important it is to quibble
over 2 weeks...BUT ...in regard to Philadelphia:
Jimmy arrived in Philly on February 13. The first
meeting was not held until Feb. 28. This date is
validated by an existing letter that Jimmy sent
to Clarence S. the next day (Feb. 29--leap year)
in which Jimmy describes having a meeting with 7
drunks the day before.

-cm

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From: Shakey1aa@... (Shakey1aa at aol.com)

BTW the 1st planning meeting in Phila was on Feb 29th,1940. It was a
leap year. Jimmy sent a letter confirming the date to Clarence "Snider"(He
misspelled Snyder) in Cleve.,Oh in a letter on file at the S.E. Pa. I.G. Assn.
Archives.

There were alcoholics meeting in the office of Dr C Dudley Saul two
years before Jimmy brought AA to Philadelphia.(1938) This can be proven in
the documentation of John Park Lee. The meetings were not AA meetings but
were meetings of alcoholic patients of the good doctor.

Yours in Service,
Shakey Mike Gwirtz
Phila, Pa

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From: "J. Lobdell" <jlobdell54@...>
(jlobdell54 at hotmail.com)

The date Feb 13 is the date Jim B moved to
Philadelphia, not the date he formed a group.
Even so, fifteen days was pretty quick work.

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WASHINGTON STATE:

From: buck johnson <buckjohnson41686@...>
(buckjohnson41686 at yahoo.com)

Washington State, first meeting of the Seattle
Group, April 19, 1941 held at New Washington
Hotel. From "Our Stories Disclose ... A history
of western Washington Area of Alcoholics anonymous
1939-2002", Second Edition page 12 &13. Published
by western Washington Area of Alcoholics Anonymous,
Seattle 2004.

Material from "The History of Washington State
Alcoholics Anonymous 1941...1966, copyrighted
1966 by Everett K.

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WASHINGTON D.C.

From: Shakey1aa@... (Shakey1aa at aol.com)

AAHL members,
How many of these groups, not meetings, flourished and continued? How
many just met 1 or 2 times then stopped? How many can be confirmed and not
just here say? I ask this because I remember that Bill and Fitz both asked
Jimmy B to help out in Wash D.C. where AA was struggling and couldn't get
off the ground. I've read what WAIA (Wash Area I.G. Assn) lists as their
history and wonder what documentation they have that substantiates the "boys of
38"

Yours in Service,
Shakey Mike Gwirtz
Phila, Pa