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Re: Timeline of the First 25 A.A. Groups

I have taken some of John B.'s dates directly into master list we are setting
up.
 
I though it would be worthwhile to give my own additional notes however on four
places:

- - - -

We had Pennsylvania: Philadelphia 1st organizational meeting February 28, 1940;
Jimmy Burwell formed the Philadelphia Mother Group on March 6, 1940.

John B. gives Philadelphia February 13, 1940, using the date from the little bio
of Jimmy Burwell at http://www.barefootsworld.net/aaburwell.html

What do the folks from that part of the east coast say about this? Should it be
February 28 or February 13? And what documents or other kinds of evidence do we
have?

- - - -

We had Illinois: Chicago (Evanston) September 20, 1939, using the date of the
first meeting in Chicago, as given in the history of Chicago AA given to us by
Past Chicago Delegate Don Bennitt.
John B. gives Chicago September 13, 1939, using Sylvia K.'s sobriety date.

I think the date of the first meeting, since we now have it, is the more
appropriate one to give.

- - - -

We had California: San Francisco November 21, 1939, using the date when they had
their first meeting in Ray W.'s room at the Clift Hotel.

John B. give San Francisco December 1939, taking the date when the group started
meeting in Mrs Oram's kitchen.

I think the first meeting in Ray's hotel room ought to be counted as the
founding date, using the normal custom of calculating when AA started at a place
(that is, the group doesn't have to have a regular meeting place, as long as
they have actually started meeting).

- - - -

We had Michigan: Detroit January 4, 1940.

John B. gives Detroit December 1939, which is the date given on the Detroit
intergroup's website. (This is also the date given in
http://hindsfoot.org/detr0.html which is taken from the same Detroit intergroup
website.)

It seems to me that we ought to take John B.'s date here as the correct one.





Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:05 pm

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From: "John Barton" <jax760@...> (jax760 at yahoo.com) TIMELINE OF THE FIRST 25 A.A. GROUPS By John B. Big Book Study Group of South Orange, NJ 1. Ohio:...
Glenn Chesnut
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I have taken some of John B.'s dates directly into master list we are setting up.   I though it would be worthwhile to give my own additional notes however...
Glenn Chesnut
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Jul 12, 2009
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Philadelphia, Washington State, Washington D.C. PHILADELPHIA: From: Cindy Miller <cm53@...> (cm53 at earthlink.net) well, I don't know how important...
Cindy Miller
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A group start date is based on when the second sober alcoholic shows up to join with the first sober alcoholic. When they had the first meeting does not...
Arthur S
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Jul 14, 2009
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True for you, Arthur -- but the creation of the service structure and thus of Group Representatives (GRs, now General Service Representatives, GSRs) leads to a...
J. Lobdell
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From Arthur S., GRault, and Larry Tooley - - - - "Arthur S" <ArtSheehan@...> (ArtSheehan at msn.com) Hi Jared I'm an active member in the General Service...
Arthur S
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Hi! Arthur As you point out, the Conference-approved pamphlet "The Group" says that "The main difference between meetings and groups is that A.A. groups...
J. Lobdell
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Jul 25, 2009
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From Arthur S., Tim T., and Jon Markle - - - - From: "Arthur S" <ArtSheehan@...> (ArtSheehan at msn.com) Jared on this one I guess we'll have to do the old...
Arthur S
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In Los Angeles our AA meeting directory says that the first meeting in L.A. took place on December 19, 1939 but that meeting died out. The first meeting that...
Charles Grotts
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Jul 21, 2009
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Hello,   There has always been some cloud of controversy about the founding of AA in Los Angeles. Kaye Miller, non-alcoholic, claimed that 1st meeting that...
Charles Knapp
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Jul 29, 2009
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On Wash DC it's the boys of '39 (and Nov at that) tho' Florence and Fitz tried independently in 1937 or 1938, apparently. The 1995 WAIA History is on the net...
J. Lobdell
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Jul 16, 2009
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From J. Lobdell and Don Bennitt, three corrections to John B.'s list - - - - From J. LOBDELL ... Hospital (December 1939) wrong -- ORANGEBURG ... 1940) WRONG...
J. Lobdell
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Jul 13, 2009
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In order to keep the first 25 list accurate with source references please cite your source for dates of groups.   i.e. Philadelphia & Chicago.   Thanks - - -...
John Barton
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For Philadelphia both Johnny L's letter to Ruth Hock and Jimmy B's reminiscences are available on line (silkworth and barefoot, I think). - - - -...
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