For various reasons I've bought and compared a few nebulizers lately.

The Transneb is a hand held unit. Its the most portable and quietest of the
ones I tested.  But its got some very small parts that I think could be easily
lost
or broken. Its definitely not something that can easily be used by someone with
poor dexterity.  I wouldn't buy this unless you REALLY needed a compact,very
portable unit
http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm

Omron has a unit similar to the above. I didn't buy it but i think it would have
similar characteristics.
http://www.qualitymedicalsupplies.com/page/QMS/PROD/RE-NB/73-NEC30

The Compair NEC-28 is solid, and a bargain price. Its a little noisy and pretty
big (about half a shoe box) but its a good unit for someone who doesn't need
portability. Its easy to use and the bits and pieces that have to be cleaned and
assembled are relatively durable and easy to manipulate.
http://www.portablenebs.com/omroncompair.htm
http://www.quickmedical.com/omron/respiratory/
nec28_compair_compressor.html

The Omrom NE-C30 is the one I would buy if I HAD to buy a nebulizer to
deliver prescription medicines. Although it looks very similar to the NEC-28
above, its actually quite a lot smaller and is a little quieter. Its simple to
use.
Basically it appears to be an advanced and shrunken version of the NEC-28.
The basic unit is pretty fair value. It also has assorted optional extra
features,
such as a battery pack, but they really boost the price.
http://www.quickmedical.com/omron/respiratory/nec30-compair-elite-portable-
compressor-nebulizer.html

All of the units above are available with a mouthpiece and masks. Obviously
there are dozens of other brands and models of medical nebulizers available
that may be better or worse than the ones I tested.


BUT BY FAR THE MOST CONVENIENT 'NEBULIZER OF ALL for colloidal
silver delivery is still the MEDISANA Ultrasonic Humidifier.

http://www.medisanausa.com/products/humidifier.aspx
Strictly speaking its not a nebulizer at all but it serves the same purpose
beautifully. The best thing about it is that you can just leave it set up
permanently on a shelf and turn it on and off as needed. Unlike a proper
nebulizer, it doesn't have to be dismantled and cleaned after each use.

All you do is switch it on, put your face near the spout and inhale the mist for
a
minute or two.  With this machine its very easy to have numerous inhalation
sessions throughout the day because there is no set-up time. You just have a
puff each time you walk past it. You can even leave it going for hours to
totally
humidify a room with CS. Its almost totally silent and runs for about 8 hours on
a fill. You could have CS therapy while you sleep!  (Note that this is a cold
water ultrasonic humidifier. It's not a steam vaporizer.)

It's about the size of a teapot and looks pretty cool so it doesn't look like
some
'embarrassing' medical gadget. You could display it quite openly in your home
or office. Most kids would be perfectly happy to use this. Its much nicer than
having a mask strapped to your face.

I can't stress enough how much easier this Medisana is to use than any
nebulizer. Because its so nice and easy to use, and can be permanently set up,
you'll find that it will be used much more often than something that needs to be
continuously unpacked and assembled.  And the more often its used the more
likely it is to work!

I believe the Medisana unit is pretty easily available in the US. Check out
Amazon, and maybe Walmart.  I've had mine here in Australia for a couple of
years and its proven to be as reliable as it is handy. But its not currently
available over here. I had to get mine sent from the States and I power it with
my own 12vDC transformer.

I hope this is useful info for you.


David

(And thanks to Ode Coyote for his help on this project).

I sent you a message but haven't heard back from you! Check out my page and send
me a line:
http://lavenderre.blogspot.com

I  haven't used commercial sunscreen for over 20 years but started using VCO
about 9 years ago and found it far superior to anything I had used in the
past. One application in the morning is all I ever use, no matter how many
times I go in the water. Never burned once. I live in the sub-tropics, Hong
Kong,
Cheers, Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Ann" <saffireskyes@...>
To: <4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] C.D.C. Finds 97 Percent of Americans
Contaminated By Sunscreens*


>
> http://www.naturalnews.com/022990.html
>
> *C.D.C. Finds 97 Percent of Americans Contaminated By
> Sunscreens*
> By Ellen Holder (see all articles by this author)
> http://www.naturalnews.com/Author188.html
> Friday, April 11, 2008
>
> (NaturalNews) -- The Center for Disease Control
> (C.D.C.) released a new
> study
> showing that nearly all Americans are contaminated
> with oxybenzone, a
> widely-used
> sunscreen ingredient.  This chemical so far has been
> linked to
> allergies, hormone
> disruption, and cell damage, as well as low birth
> weight in baby girls
> whose
> mothers are exposed during pregnancy.  Oxybenzone is
> also a penetration
> enhancer,
> a chemical that helps other chemicals penetrate the
> skin.  So, where
> has the
> F.D.A. been on this?
>
> Apparently in the back pocket of the sunscreen
> industry.  The Food and
> Drug
> Administration, again, has failed in its duty to
> protect the public
> from toxic
> chemicals like oxybenzone.  Caving to the industry
> lobbyists, the
> agency has
> delayed final sunscreen safety standards for nearly 30
> years.  F.D.A.
> issued a
> new draft of the standards last October under pressure
> from
> Environmental Working
> Group (E.W.G.), but continues to delay finalizing them
> because of
> pressure from
> the industry.
> http://www.naturalnews.com/sunscreen.html
> http://www.naturalnews.com/Environmental_Working_Group.html
>
>
> In their online cosmetic safety database, E.W.G.
> identifies nearly 600
> sunscreens
> sold in the U.S. that contain oxybenzone, including
> leading brand names
> like
> Hawaiian Tropic, Coppertone, and Banana Boat, and many
> facial
> moisturizers, as
> well.  On top of that, they also show many of these
> so-called
> sunscreens offer
> inadequate protection from the sun.  In fact, they
> found that sunlight
> also
> causes oxybenzone to form free radical chemicals that
> may be linked to
> cell
> damage, which is the exact opposite reason many women
> mistakenly use
> the
> sunscreen -- to protect them from damaging free
> radicals which lead to
> premature aging! http://www.naturalnews.com/aging.html
>
>
> And interestingly, as sunscreen sales have risen, so
> has the rate of
> skin
> cancers.  Go figure.  We've been pressured to believe
> that the sun is
> our enemy
> and we need to slather on loads of sunscreen to
> protect ourselves, when
> in
> actuality we need sunlight for our bodies to
> manufacture vitamin D.
>  For those of
> us who are either fair skinned or just plain vain and
> worry about age
> spots and
> wrinkles, limiting our unprotected sun exposure to 20
> minutes a day is
> adequate
> for our daily dose of vitamin D.  For more fun in the
> sun, overexposure
> can be
> avoided by using a natural or organic sunscreen with a
> reflective
> barrier like
> zinc, instead of chemical sunscreens.  Even a small
> amount of shea
> butter rubbed
> into the skin daily offers a bit of natural UV
> protection. Whatever you
> do, don't
> wait for the F.D.A. to help you in your choice.  Based
> on their history
> in this
> category, it could be another 30 years before safety
> standards are
> improved.
> http://www.naturalnews.com/the_FDA.html
>
> References:
>
> 1.  Environmental Health Perspectives: Concentrations
> of the Sunscreen
> Agent,
> Benzophenone-3, in Residents of the United States:
> National Health and
> Nutrition
> Examination Survey 2003-2004
> http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2008/1126...
>
> 2.  Environmental Working Group: Comments from E.W.G.
> on the U.S.
> F.D.A.'s
> Proposed Amendment of Final Monograph for Sunscreens
> http://www.ewg.org/node/25705
>
> 3. Environmental Working Group: Americans Carry 'Body
> Burden' of Toxic
> Sunscreen
> Chemical
> http://www.ewg.org/node/26212
>
> ~~~
> [About the author:  Ellen Holder is co-founder of
> Caren, an online
> store for
> natural, organic and synthetic chemical free skin care
> products.
> http://www.carenonline.com ]
>
> ###
>
> Related Articles:
>
> â?¢ 84% of sunscreen products are harmful to health,
> says alarming
> E.W.G. study
> http://www.naturalnews.com/021927.html
>
> â?¢ The sunscreen myth: How sunscreen products
> actually promote
> cancer
> http://www.naturalnews.com/021903.html
>
> â?¢ Sunscreen warning has it all wrong: people need
> more sunlight
> on their skin,
> not less
> http://www.naturalnews.com/001520.html
>
> â?¢ Skin cancer more deadly in blacks while
> dermatology pushes more
> sunscreen
> products onto people who actually need sunlight
> exposure
> http://www.naturalnews.com/019428.html
>
> â?¢ Sunscreens can damage skin, researchers find
> (press release)
> http://www.naturalnews.com/020771.html
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> Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html
>
>
>
>
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As far as my wife's soup recipes..... she uses a lot of chicken stock,
beef stock, vegtables of all kinds, and the meat will always be ground
(to suit me), be it beef, chicken, or turkey. Even her bean soups will
have veggies in them, a multitude of spices and herbs for flavor, lots
of onion, garlic, auliflower, sometimes potato, and always the
jalapeno. She does not mix her meats, the majority of which is poultry.
We use no sugar, teas are unsweetened (the majority of which is black
or/and green), a glass of red wine on the swing under the old oak tree..

We use a lot of cheese, NONE of which is of the Velveta variety. I will
often crumble up a hard boiled egg in a can of potato, celery, mushroom
or chili along with diced jalapenos for my lunch at the shop if there
are no leftovers to bring.

I NEVER forget my chocolate, and she never lets me run out..:) We also
will ferment cabbage, radishes, cauliflower, onions, garlic, carrots,
most any hard vegetable. They keep almost forever and gives flavor to
almosts anything..

I am a firm believer in the Bruce West/Standard Process method of
making pills made from food for almost any type of illness.

Uncleben ..

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "uncleben75708" <cncsmetal@...>

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, vwolf21@... wrote:
> ***This is interesting:)
Ben, you have written up some good eats in your post...I envy you
your digestive system:(

(UB)
Most illnesses can be helped immensly by what we eat.. I grew up on
Mexican (TexMex) food and if one can enjoy the flavor of the peppers,
they are good for your digestive system.. All one has to do is flavor
them a bit. It's not like you eat the peppers like candy..:)
****Years ago I worked for a family and the hubby had some kind of heart problem...wouldn't start the evening meal without a small bowl of hot peppers on the table...

(V)
Does this mean that you are in really good physcial shape...fairly
good...what? Do you have an exercise program? Or do you do it the old
fashioned way...by being happy and feeling contented in your life and
walking instead of driving?
Vi rginia*****

(UB)
I'm in good shape for what I do, which means I can do all I need and
want to do.. But I'm not in the kind of shape that plays tennis (nor
the time). And yes, I'll walk (park at the extreme ends of parking
lots, walk down to get the mail rather than get it when I get out
and unlock the gate...and the driveway is about 500' long. Then, with
a hand full of nuts I'll start my a mile a day). I do have an
exercise program I do Monday thru Friday early in the morning. I've
found that if a movement hurts, you can often eliminate the pain by
using that motion with some weight involved. At least it works for
me... and I subscribe to the old saying 'the less you do the less you
can do...' and I have lots I still need and want to do..
****Sounds like you are in darn good shape, sir.

Also, I treat myself to a bit of Dove dark chocolate DAILY....:)
****Yeah, baby...lol    Now your talking:)

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, vwolf21@... wrote:
> ***This is interesting:)
Ben, you have written up some good eats in your post...I envy you
your digestive system:(

(UB)
Most illnesses can be helped immensly by what we eat.. I grew up on
Mexican (TexMex) food and if one can enjoy the flavor of the peppers,
they are good for your digestive system.. All one has to do is flavor
them a bit. It's not like you eat the peppers like candy..:)

(V)
Does this mean that you are in really good physcial shape...fairly
good...what? Do you have an exercise program? Or do you do it the old
fashioned way...by being happy and feeling contented in your life and
walking instead of driving?
Virginia*****

(UB)
I'm in good shape for what I do, which means I can do all I need and
want to do.. But I'm not in the kind of shape that plays tennis (nor
the time). And yes, I'll walk (park at the extreme ends of parking
lots, walk down to get the mail rather than get it when I  get out
and unlock the gate...and the driveway is about 500' long. Then, with
a hand full of nuts I'll start my a mile a day). I do have an
exercise program I do Monday thru Friday early in the morning. I've
found that if a movement hurts, you can often eliminate the pain by
using that motion with some weight involved. At least it works for
me... and I subscribe to the old saying 'the less you do the less you
can do...'  and I have lots I still need and want to do..

Also, I treat myself to a bit of Dove dark chocolate DAILY....:)

Hi Bill
I have been collecting large amounts of data on all kinds of things and have
2 considerable sized folders on hepatitis. Some of the articles may not be
about hep C and you may have a problem opening some. Just delete those.
There may be a couple using CS.  I will forward them directly to you off
group as they will be in attachment form.
Cheers, Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Asenjo" <basenjo@...>
To: <4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:45 PM
Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Hepatitis C & CS


I'd appreciate 'hearing' from anyone who has had success with treating
Hepatitis C with CS...or anything else non-conventional.

Thanks,
Bill

Bill Asenjo, PhD, CRC
www.billasenjo.com
basenjo@...
Cell 319-461-4516
Phone/Fax 319-658-2016

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, vwolf21@... wrote:
>
> must say I am a bit surprised....I thought you all would be in the
brown rice...vegan group.
> Or something along those lines.
>
Hi V,

Growing up we didn't really eat very well.  Mainly because of lack of
money so treats were a very rare thing.

As far as my eating habits, I will try this or that seeing how I feel
on it.  If I don't see any improvement, I will go back to eating a
mulitple of things but in moderation.  I do drink coffee, a couple of
cups a day usually.  Will sometimes go off of it but find I simply
enjoy a nice cup.  I have tried the candida diet but find I feel
worse on it.  At first I feel better not having any type of sugar but
I don't feel like all the high protein is good for ones kidneys.
Others seem to swear by it, tho.  I tried not eating any gluten and
saw no difference whatsoever.  What seems to work for me is a high
protein (I eat mostly chicken, eggs, fish and sometime red meat) and
low carbs with a little fat.  I don't believe in cutting out all
carbs.  I actually don't believe in cutting out any one type of good
food and I think long-term vegetarians are lacking in B vitamins that
comes from red meat.  I think we need some meat.  I enjoy food and
eat to nurish as well as enjoy.

When I want to indulge (say have some chocolate gravy), I indulge.
Altough the last time I ate that was when my mom had heart surgery.
My aunt invited all of us kids ( 6 of us, although we are no longer
kids) over for a pot of beans, bisquits and chocolate gravey.  We
were in hog heaven.  My mom has been gone since 91 so it's been a
while.

During holidays I eat the meal without guilt and then quit.  Although
I usually will have seconds later on in the day.  I simply don't
worry about the few celebrations and eat moderately (usually
somewhere between 1,200 - 1,400 calories a day) keeping it higher in
protein and lower in carbs/fat during the rest of the year.  That way
of eating seems to keep my sugar level.

However, the latest protocol that I really want to give a try is the
Budwig diet.  For whatever reason, I find I am being drawn to it so
will have to look a little closer at it.  Even if I only stay on it a
few months rather than a way of life, that will give me time to see
how my body responds to it.

I have heard a little dark chocolate is actually healthy for you as
well as some red wine, but I have also heard if you 'crave'
chocolate, you are often low in magnesium.  Many women during
menopause will suddenly start craving chocolate but it will actually
be a need for more magnesium during this time.

All so interesting.  Food and peoples eating habits fascinate me.

btw, I'm sure you can always healthy up the chocolate gravy by using
xylitol in place of sugar along with some rice or patatoe flour (only
need a little for thickening) to be completly gluten free.  That
would then be a sugar/gluten free chocolate/milk/butter treat.  Oh,
but then there's the biscuits! lol

Enjoy!

Gail

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...>

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "uncleben75708"
<cncsmetal@...> wrote:
>
> once in a while
> biscuits made from some sort of healthy flour and gravy mushroom
soup
> and hot sausage...)
>
>
OR homemade soup with a
> bit of everything, the meat being ground chicken, beef or turkey...

Ever heard of 'chocolate' gravy? It was a rare treat when growing
up. Made like pan gravy but with cocoa, can milk, butter, sugar &
probably a little flower to thicken it up. Sinfully delicious was
served hot out of the pan over biscuits. It was so rare that I view
it as somewhat sacred. Haven't ever made it myself and only got the
recipe recently.

Any chance of getting your wife to share some of her homemade soup
recipes? Never heard of ground chicken in a soup dish unless perhaps
chili. Sure sounds delicious.
Gail

Gail

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Douglas Murray" <doublaswalter@...>

Hi Virginia.
The story goes back to 1945-6.
Roche Pharm (France, I believe) were doing
research on laetrile, apricot kernels are the most concentrated natural
source, and they found a 99+% cure for most cancers.
OH! we can't patent this as it is natural.
No Money here. Bury the research.
Within 6 months,and I remember when my mother heard it and she made us adhere to it,
a massive PR smear campaign came out "Warning, do not eat the
seed kernels from any pitted fruits,apple, pear and similar seeds.
They all have cyanide in them and it will kill you or at least make you very sick.
True, the active ingredient does have some cyanide radicals attached, but by the quirk of nature that is the part that actually kills the cancer.
This was only found out by an investigative medical research journalist
under the FOIA in the mid 80's
I have several good articles on this, if you would like, I will send them to
you.
Cheers, Doug----- Original Message -----
From: <vwolf21@comcast.net>
To: <4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Apricot Seed/Doug

> Good Morning Doug,
> I was wondering if taking the kernels or seeds as a preventative measure
> is recomended?
> My friend seems to feel it is a good thing.
> I seem to remember reading somethings about this many years ago , and I
> think I remember that there was much controversy over the subject.
> Something about the kernels being toxic?
> What is your opinion? Virginia

.

Hi Virginia.
The story goes back to 1945-6. Roche Pharm (France, I believe) were doing
research on laetrile, apricot kernels are the most concentrated natural
source, and they found a 99+% cure for most cancers.
OH! we can't patent this as it is natural. No Money here. Bury the research.
Within  6 months,and I remember when my mother heard it and she made us
adhere to it, a massive PR smear campaign came out "Warning, do not eat the
seed kernels from any pitted fruits,apple, pear and similar seeds. They all
have cyanide in them and it will kill you or at least make you very sick.
True, the active ingredient does have some cyanide radicals attached, but by
the quirk of nature that is the part that actually kills the cancer.
This was only found out by an investigative medical research journalist
under the FOIA in the mid 80's
I have several good articles on this, if you would like, I will send them to
you.
Cheers, Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <vwolf21@...>
To: <4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Apricot Seed/Doug


> Good Morning Doug,
> I was wondering if taking the kernels or seeds as a preventative measure
> is recomended?
> My friend seems to feel it is a good thing.
> I seem to remember reading somethings about this many years ago , and I
> think I remember that there was much controversy over the subject.
> Something about the kernels being toxic?
> What is your opinion?  Virginia
>
> From: "Douglas Murray" <doublaswalter@...>
> Yes Apricot kernel (correct term) have been used very successfully to cure
> and prevent many types of cancer.
> Vitamin B17 (laetrile) is the active ingredient.
> Google both those terms and you will get an eyeful.
> (Much reading).
> I have a large folder full of info. I can share it with you if you
> like.
> Cheers, Doug
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <vwolf21@...>
> To: <4ColloidalSilver@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:05 AM
> Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Apricot Seed
>
>> Does anyone have any experience with Apricot Seeds?
>> A friend from the Netherlands sent me some interesting articles.
>> I had heard about Apricot Pits as being helpful in dealing with some
>> Cancers....but never seeds as a preventative. Virginia
>
>
>

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "uncleben75708"
<cncsmetal@...> wrote:
>
> once in a while
> biscuits made from some sort of healthy flour and gravy  mushroom
soup
> and hot sausage...)
>
>
  OR homemade soup with a
> bit of everything, the meat being ground chicken, beef or turkey...

Ever heard of 'chocolate' gravy?  It was a rare treat when growing
up.  Made like pan gravy but with cocoa, can milk, butter, sugar &
probably a little flower to thicken it up.  Sinfully delicious was
served hot out of the pan over biscuits.   It was so rare that I view
it as somewhat sacred.  Haven't ever made it myself and only got the
recipe recently.

Any chance of getting your wife to share some of her homemade soup
recipes?  Never heard of ground chicken in a soup dish unless perhaps
chili.  Sure sounds delicious.

Gail

Gail

From: "uncleben75708" <cncsmetal@...>

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...>
wrote:
>
Ok, Tio. I'm always interested in what people eat and really like
specifics. Mind telling me what you ate for breakfast, lunch & dinner?
***This is interesting:)
Wanda, I too am interested in what others have as a daily diet.
Because I am so involved in controlling my system with food...I like to hear about others food plans.
Oh what the heck, I have always been obsessed about food..love to shop for it..prepare it  ..and feed large groups of people:)

But we are talking about healthy eats here, yes?

Ben, you have written up some good eats in your post...I envy you your digestive system:(

Foods here I have never tried but would love to...the Mexican foods.
Does this mean that you are in really good physcial shape...fairly good...what?

Do you have an exercise program?

Or do you do it the old fashioned way...by being happy and feeling contented in your life and walking instead of driving?

Would anyone else share their food programs?  Virginia*****
First, let me say that my lovely wife is an awesome cook..and uses most
all of the good stuff.

Breakfast.. Weekdays.. Fruit drink (goat yogurt, frozen blue berry,
strawberries...) or goat milk, healthy cereal with the same frozen
fruit.

Weekends.. Eggs (any way but mostly 'sunny side up' with bacon or
sausage with potatoes at times.. OR egg tacos with refried beans,
jalapenos, eggs, cheese, and bacon or sausage) OR once in a while
biscuits made from some sort of healthy flour and gravy mushroom soup
and hot sausage...)

Lunch (at the shop) hard boiled egg in cream of potato, mushroom, or
celery soup, left overs from the night before...

Dinner..tacos with ground chicken or turkey, beans, lettuce and tomato
salad and either jalapenos or picante sauce, OR homemade soup with a
bit of everything, the meat being ground chicken, beef or turkey... S he
also makes great pasta dishes and TexMex using her own sause with the
above meat withe ever present jalapenos (I put them on almost
everything, including my gravy)...

If we sweeten anything from tea to deserts we use xylitol. Drin a lot
of green tea or distilled water.. I eat about five times a day... A
piece of fruit about mid morning and a handfull of nuts when I get home.

> Once went off all gluten for three months, but couldn't tell any
> difference in my health. :(>>

Then you must not have a gluten problem...
>
> I'm looking in the mirror.
>
> Gail>

Something we all need to do...

.

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...>
wrote:
>
Ok, Tio.  I'm always interested in what people eat and really like
specifics.  Mind telling me what you ate for breakfast, lunch & dinner?
>>

First, let me say that my lovely wife is an awesome cook..and uses most
all of the good stuff.

Breakfast.. Weekdays.. Fruit drink (goat yogurt, frozen blue berry,
strawberries...) or goat milk, healthy cereal with the same frozen
fruit.

Weekends.. Eggs (any way but mostly 'sunny side up' with bacon or
sausage with potatoes at times.. OR egg tacos with refried beans,
jalapenos, eggs, cheese, and bacon or sausage) OR once in a while
biscuits made from some sort of healthy flour and gravy  mushroom soup
and hot sausage...)

Lunch (at the shop) hard boiled egg in cream of potato, mushroom, or
celery soup, left overs from the night before...

Dinner..tacos with ground chicken or turkey, beans, lettuce and tomato
salad and either jalapenos or picante sauce, OR homemade soup with a
bit of everything, the meat being ground chicken, beef or turkey... She
also makes great pasta dishes and TexMex using her own sause with the
above meat withe ever present jalapenos (I put them on almost
everything, including my gravy)...

If we sweeten anything from tea to deserts we use xylitol. Drin a lot
of green tea or distilled water.. I eat about five times a day... A
piece of fruit about mid morning and a handfull of nuts when I get home.

> Once went off all gluten for three months, but couldn't tell any
> difference in my health. :(>>

Then you must not have a gluten problem...
>
> I'm looking in the mirror.
>
> Gail>

Something we all need to do...

io ..

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "uncleben75708"
<cncsmetal@...> wrote:
>
> The most important thing we can do for ourselves is to control our
> diet..
>
> Tio .. as Uncleben would say... "The process to fix our problems
starts
> with looking in the mirror, for you are looking at the source..."
>
Ok, Tio.  I'm always interested in what people eat and really like
specifics.  Mind telling me what you ate for breakfast, lunch & dinner?

Once went off all gluten for three months, but couldn't tell any
difference in my health. :(

I'm looking in the mirror.

Gail

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...>
wrote:
wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote:                             -

Personally, I do believe diet is important in all factors but lean more
to genetics when it comes to the burning.

Gail>>


> Agreed.

Carol Ann >>

The most important thing we can do for ourselves is to control our
diet..

Tio .. as Uncleben would say... "The process to fix our problems starts
with looking in the mirror, for you are looking at the source..."

-

Personally, I do believe diet is important in all factors but lean more
to genetics when it comes to the burning.

Gail

Agreed.

I wrote earlier,  Moms side is  pure  Irish - fair skinned red heads;  Sun = burn.

Dad side, from Palmero, Sicily. Darker complexion;   Sun =  Rich olive bronze tan.

I fall somewhere in the middle.  :)

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "uncleben75708"
<cncsmetal@...> wrote:
>
> > Gail, what about today, the day after? Any residual burn or sting?
>
>> Tio .. Ones life is the result of ones choices...
>
Morning, Tio.

Today there is still a little sting but for sure no blistering.  You
are right about the benefits of it, tho.  Something good to know.
Still moderation is probably wise in all situations.

Regarding your last comment:  Many times in my life I have played the
fool.  Thank God for His grace.

Gail

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...>
wrote:
>
> Dunno. I'd think that anything in the way of a liquid application
that is oily and glistens would have a greater or increased attraction
for the suns rays.
>

Carol Ann, I know this will sound rude but that is not my intention...
But...what we 'think' does not necessarily translate into fact.. Also,
a greater attraction for the sun's rays does not mean coconut oil does
not block the UV rays...

And... who knows, what I read (red) does not necessarily mean that what
I read (reed) translates into fact either... BUT, it works well for me,
and I'm fair skinned... and that's good enough for me, fact or
fiction...

Tio, masquerading as Uncleben ..'as I look over my shoulder I see that
HE has my back..'

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...>
wrote:
>
> Dunno.  I'd think that anything in the way of a liquid application
that is oily and glistens would have a greater or increased attraction
for the suns rays.
>
> I do know that coconut oil has some rather amazing properties and if
one wanted to tan, using it would seem like the best choice of an
enhancer because it has, unlike baby oil,  zero toxicity.
>
>
HI Carol Ann,

An interesting tidbit I just read while googling CO.  Theary is that
diet plays an inportant factor regarding sunbuns.  If one has a high
polyunsaturted fat content in their diet, they tend to burn more easily.

Personally, I do believe diet is important in all factors but lean more
to genetics when it comes to the burning.

Gail

Hello Group,

I get kind of excited when things come together and I can see the
reason behind whatever.

I took UB's advice and googled coconut oil wanting to understand if it
did act as a sunscreen and how.  Most know it's good for the skin but
why?

Remember Carol Ann mentioning some have suggested using vitamin C in a
spray bottle for sun protection, and how Chuck mentioned he learned
taking vitamin E helped him not burn.  Well, they all were right.
Coconut oil has antioxidant propertied that protect the skin from free
radical damage.

I'm feeling just a wee bit smarter.

Thanks people.

Gail

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...>
wrote:
>
> Dunno.  I'd think that anything in the way of a liquid application
that is oily and glistens would have a greater or increased attraction
for the suns rays.
>

Carol Ann, I know this will sound rude but that is not my intention...
But...what we 'think' does not necessarily translate into fact..  Also,
a greater attraction for the sun's rays does not mean coconut oil does
not block the UV rays...

And... who knows, what I read (red) does not necessarily mean that what
I read (reed) translates into fact either... BUT, it works well for me,
and I'm fair skinned... and that's good enough for me, fact or
fiction...

Tio, masquerading as Uncleben ..'as I look over my shoulder I see that
HE has my back..'

 Medical Terminology
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Artery...... The study of paintings.

Bacteria.....Back door to cafeteria.

Barium........What doctors do when patients die.

Benign........What you be after you be eight.

Cesarean Section....A neighborhood in Rome.

CATscan....................Searching for kitty.

Cauterize..................Made eye contact with her.

Colic.......................... A sheep dog.

Coma...........................A punctuation mark.

D&C..........................Where Washington is.

Dilate......................... To live long.

Enema..........................Not a friend.

Fester.........................Quicker than someone else.

Fibula..........................A small lie.

Genital.........................Non-Jewish person.

G.I. Series..................World Series of military baseball.

Hangnail......................What you hang your coat on.

Impotent.....................Distinguished, well known.

Labor Pain...................Getting hurt at work.

Medical Staff............A Doctor's cane.

Morbid........................A higher offer than I bid.

Nitrates.......................Cheaper than day rates.

Node.............................I knew it.

Outpatient..................A person who has fainted.

Pap Smear...................A fatherhood test.

Pelvis............................Second cousin to Elvis.

Post Operative...........A letter carrier.

Recovery Room...........Place to do upholstery.

Rectum..........................damn near killed him.

Secretion......................Hiding something.

Seizure..........................Roman emperor.

Tablet............................A small table.

Terminal Illness...........Getting sick at the airport.

Tumor.............................More than one.

Urine..............................Opposite of you're out.

Varicose.........................Near by/close by.
-

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929"
<wanda85929@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Tio, Carol Ann & all,
>
> This is a subject near my heart because of my dad's battle with
skin> cancer as well as my own. When you mentioned coconut oil was a
good sunscreen, I had to ask myself how can that be? In my mind, I
thought it would probably work kind of like baby oil. Probably great
as a moisturizer, but couldn't see how it would work as a sunscreen,
so I tried it out today.

--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929"
<wanda85929@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Tio, Carol Ann & all,
>
> This is a subject near my heart because of my dad's battle with
skin> cancer as well as my own. When you mentioned coconut oil was a
good sunscreen, I had to ask myself how can that be?  In my mind, I
thought it would probably work kind of like baby oil.  Probably great
as a moisturizer, but couldn't see how it would work as a sunscreen,
so I tried it out today.

Now in my advance age, some wisdom has been acquired.  I no longer go
for the burn.  Am very cautious with the sun, so after spending most
of the winter indoors, I start with only 5 minutes out in the sun and
work up to about 15 minutes.  I simply don't stay long in the sun but
do want the vitamin D it provides.  As I have been sitting out in the
sun a few times already, I stayed out 12 minutes today.  I timed it,
and I also put some coconut oil on.  It seemed to act (for me) the
same as baby oil.  It feels like it attracts the sunrays even more so
and I ended up getting a little sting and a little red with it.  That
was my results anyway.

> Gail

Gail, what about today, the day after? Any residual burn or sting?
I'm not trying to push coconut oil on anybody but it is a long way
from 'baby oil'....and works for me. It's not that I do not get any
color from it but I do not burn, and that's why I posted what I did..

Having grown up in deep south Texas (Rio Grande Valley) I always
envied those that could tan. I never could (tan) and do not wear
shorts to this day. It's Levi's during all waking hours, even to
church.. I wear them long, intensly dislike the 'accordian' look
bunched up around my boots..so my lovely wife opens the inside seam
ala Mexican Vaquero.. (I know.. What's that go to do with
anything??) :)

Once, at age 11 we spent too much time on Padre Island and I burned
about as bad as one can. The blisters on my legs were huge and the
skin peeled in sheets. Soooooo, I have not allow myself to get
sunburned to the point of peeling very often since. As a teen I did
strive to tan, had some success but it never lasted if I didn't keep
it up.. Today, and I'm outside a lot in the afternoons and weekends
(I have little choice, what with cows, horses, tractors, fences,
chainsaws and log splitters....not to mention precious grandsons...)
I use coconut oil and get a bit of color but no burn and no peeling..

Having read that it (the coconut oil) blocks UV rays was the
reasoning for trying it in the first place. It might be something one
would want to google..

As a side note.... Back in my teen years I used 'baby oil' mixed with
Iodine for an 'instant tan'..:)

Tio .. Ones life is the result of ones choices...

I discovered decades ago that high dose vitamin E prevents me from
burning.
I take 1000 IU daily.

Before that, I used to burn easily (part Irish).

							 Chuck
I tried sniffing Coke once, but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose.


On 4/17/2008 12:46:58 AM, wanda85929 (wanda85929@...) wrote:
> Hello Tio, Carol Ann & all,
>
> This is a subject near my heart because of my
> dad's battle with skin
> cancer as well as my own.
>
> In my earliest years, when play was all I knew, there was never any
> sunscreen and I often burned.  I, too, am fair skin with a reddish
> complextion.  My father is a blue eyed, blond German; my mother
> Irish/French heritage.
>
> Tanning was something I always longed for, but burning was what I
> usually got.  My mother's
> c

Hello Tio, Carol Ann & all,

This is a subject near my heart because of my dad's battle with skin
cancer as well as my own.

In my earliest years, when play was all I knew, there was never any
sunscreen and I often burned.  I, too, am fair skin with a reddish
complextion.  My father is a blue eyed, blond German; my mother
Irish/French heritage.

Tanning was something I always longed for, but burning was what I
usually got.  My mother's cure for the many sunburns was to rub can
milk on me.  Cool going on, but after it dried, it would pull the
skin causing even more discomfort.

As I grew into my teen years, sunscreen was on the scene.  Lots of my
friends had beautiful tans.  According to them, baby oil was what
gave one a really good tan.  Spent many hours sunbathing with baby
oil only to have it actually cause more sunburns.

When you mentioned coconut oil was a good sunscreen, I had to ask
myself how can that be?  In my mind, I thought it would probably work
kind of like baby oil.  Probably great as a moisturizer, but couldn't
see how it would work as a sunscreen, so I tried it out today.

Now in my advance age, some wisdom has been acquired.  I no longer go
for the burn.  Am very cautious with the sun, so after spending most
of the winter indoors, I start with only 5 minutes out in the sun and
work up to about 15 minutes.  I simply don't stay long in the sun but
do want the vitamin D it provides.  As I have been sitting out in the
sun a few times already, I stayed out 12 minutes today.  I timed it,
and I also put some coconut oil on.  It seemed to act (for me) the
same as baby oil.  It feels like it attracts the sunrays even more so
and I ended up getting a little sting and a little red with it.  That
was my results anyway.

The reason I'm going into all this is because of the skin cancer I
mentioned.  Arizona (where I live) is one of the highest skin cancer
areas in the US.  In my dads' day, he worked in the fields many hours
without a hat.  In my day, I simply was foolish and overdid it.  I
believe it is not so much the sun that causes cancer rather it is the
burn of the sun.  I don't know if there's any clinical testing to
prove that, but that's always what I've thought in the back of my
mind.

So I'm glad it works for you, but I would have to caution anybody who
has difficulty tanning.  Protect your skin as best as you can.  And
probably the best way is to not overdo it.

Question:  It's it true that black people also gets skin cancer if
exposed to the sun too much?  I thought I had heard that.  Anybody
know?

Gail

-- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "uncleben75708"
<cncsmetal@...> wrote:
>
> --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, Carol Ann <saffireskyes@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Why coconut oil?
> Regards, Carol Ann ~
>
> Because it works for me.. Hours in the sun and no sunburn, just a
hint
> of golden tan...Also, there is no down side to using coconut oil on
> your skin... and it's not a processed product with all kinds of
> chemicals in it...
>
> We are our own worst enemy. We take what God has provided and
> we 'improve it' to the point that it kills us..
>
> Uncleben.. Crowding 63 years old and most are surprised I'm any
where
> near that age...
>