the guaifenesin...that is for treating fibro, yes?
I will hold your wellbeing in my prayers...are you doing any biofeedback tapes? V.
-----Original Message----- From: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com [mailto:4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of wanda85929 Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:59 PM To: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Re: If Silver ain't heavy ....
LOL I must have missed that post. The whole thing went completely over my head (not really all that hard these days). I totally believed you when speaking about a weight problem and couldn't figure out why when you don't even eat sugar and have always been such a stickler about healthy life-styles. Then I didn't get Chuck's response to your post either. Ode's post almost always go over my head, but now yours and Chuck's are too! I simply couldn't figure out why he would say your weight problems are all behind you now. Didn't know if he meant at this age, who cares, or was he implying you simply had a big butt!
Been on the guaifenesin for 2 months now. All symptoms are worse; more fatigue, more pain, and more brain fog. I'm living in dudville these days. They say that means it's workking as things get worse with the phosphates leaving the body so rapidly. Hope they're not lying. I can't tell a lie from the true and joke from a simple fact.<chuckle>
Take care,
Gail -- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <cncsmetal@...> wrote: > > Gail, no weight problem here. I was just putting a bit of humor on my error in classifying silver as being a 'heavy metal'.. I'm still wearing the same size Levi's that I wore thirty years ago..and I've NEVER been heavy. > > You're an angel for caring... Thank you. > > Tio .. > > -- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929" <wanda85929@> wrote: > > > > All about the carbs and sugars, Tio. > > > > Whether it's the South Beach diet, the Atkins, or The Makers Diet, they're all a little different version of the same thing. > > > > Good fats are good for you, but carbs/sugars just aren't. Must be in moderation and a quality carb. Forget the sugars even honey or any so called good for you sugar. But hey! I thought you didn't eat sugar???? > > > > Gail > > > > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <cncsmetal@> wrote: > > > > > > If silver ain't heavy just how am I supposed to explain my weight gain?? > > > No smartass answers please.. <G> > > > > > > Uncleben .. > > > > > >
Ahhhh, you're spoiling all the fun...
Chuck
Q: What's a light-year?
A: One-third less calories than a regular year.
On 8/31/2009 9:11:23 AM, cncsmetal75708 (cncsmetal@...) wrote:
> Gail, no weight problem here. I was just putting a bit of humor on my
> error in classifying silver as being a 'heavy metal'..
> I'm still wearing the same size Levi's that I wore thirty years ago..and
> I've NEVER been heavy.
>
> You're an angel for caring... Thank you.
>
> Tio ..
>
> -- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...> wrote:
> >
> > All about the carbs and sugars, Tio.
> >
> > Whether
> it's the South Beach diet, the Atkins, or The Makers Diet, they're all a
> little different version of the same thing.
> >
> > Good fats are good for you, but carbs/sugars just
> aren't. Must be in moderation and a quality carb. Forget the sugars even
honey or any so called good for you sugar. But hey! I thought you didn't
> eat sugar????
> >
> > Gail
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LOL I must have missed that post. The whole thing went completely over my head
(not really all that hard these days). I totally believed you when speaking
about a weight problem and couldn't figure out why when you don't even eat sugar
and have always been such a stickler about healthy life-styles. Then I didn't
get Chuck's response to your post either. Ode's post almost always go over my
head, but now yours and Chuck's are too! I simply couldn't figure out why he
would say your weight problems are all behind you now. Didn't know if he meant
at this age, who cares, or was he implying you simply had a big butt!
Been on the guaifenesin for 2 months now. All symptoms are worse; more fatigue,
more pain, and more brain fog. I'm living in dudville these days. They say
that means it's workking as things get worse with the phosphates leaving the
body so rapidly. Hope they're not lying. I can't tell a lie from the true and
joke from a simple fact.<chuckle>
Take care,
Gail
-- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <cncsmetal@...> wrote:
>
> Gail, no weight problem here. I was just putting a bit of humor on my error in
classifying silver as being a 'heavy metal'.. I'm still wearing the same size
Levi's that I wore thirty years ago..and I've NEVER been heavy.
>
> You're an angel for caring... Thank you.
>
> Tio ..
>
> -- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929" <wanda85929@> wrote:
> >
> > All about the carbs and sugars, Tio.
> >
> > Whether it's the South Beach diet, the Atkins, or The Makers Diet, they're
all a little different version of the same thing.
> >
> > Good fats are good for you, but carbs/sugars just aren't. Must be in
moderation and a quality carb. Forget the sugars even honey or any so called
good for you sugar. But hey! I thought you didn't eat sugar????
> >
> > Gail
> >
> > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <cncsmetal@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > If silver ain't heavy just how am I supposed to explain my weight gain??
> > > No smartass answers please.. <G>
> > >
> > > Uncleben ..
> > >
> >
>
Gail, no weight problem here. I was just putting a bit of humor on my error in
classifying silver as being a 'heavy metal'.. I'm still wearing the same size
Levi's that I wore thirty years ago..and I've NEVER been heavy.
You're an angel for caring... Thank you.
Tio ..
-- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...> wrote:
>
> All about the carbs and sugars, Tio.
>
> Whether it's the South Beach diet, the Atkins, or The Makers Diet, they're all
a little different version of the same thing.
>
> Good fats are good for you, but carbs/sugars just aren't. Must be in
moderation and a quality carb. Forget the sugars even honey or any so called
good for you sugar. But hey! I thought you didn't eat sugar????
>
> Gail
>
> --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <cncsmetal@> wrote:
> >
> > If silver ain't heavy just how am I supposed to explain my weight gain??
> > No smartass answers please.. <G>
> >
> > Uncleben ..
> >
>
Or... check the bathroom soap dispenser,
All things equal, fat people use more soap.
Chuck
The world gets a little better every day and worse
in the evening.
On 8/30/2009 12:03:45 PM, wanda85929 (wanda85929@...) wrote:
> --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, cking001@... wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually you weight problem is all behind you now...
> >
> > Chuck
> > Explain yourself, Chuck. Why is UB's weight problem all behind him now?
What am I missing? Gail
>
>
>
>
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>
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17:51:00
Oddly, I am sitting at this computer, tethered to a 50 ft. cord that leads to an oxygen tank in my bedroom.
Had to visit the E.R. last sunday...heartrate was over 100 bp. was 200+ over 100+.
An alert E..R.doc noticed my oxygen level was 79 and that I had inflamation in my left leg.
I had been telling my primary care doc about the leg the past two visits ...and she certainly saw/heard my huffing and puffing during previous office visits...
Still, she never even suggested treating these things...just went on and on about my b.p. and my need to medicate.
I asked her if we could get to the bottom of why the bp was so high...she didn't seem to get the connection...just pop the pills...cover it up...and go away.
I would change docs...yet again...but she has a nurse that is an amazing person...and I usually deal with her...very caring and knowledgable...and truthfully, the docs around here are the pits.
While being settled into the room for my coming 3 day stay,the nurse found my sugar had gone from about 100 to 189.
The next three days ...well, I could write a book:(
But I am home now and the oxygen is amazing.
Now sleeping well and will begin an at home recovery program next week.
Telling you all of this because, I finished a series of radiation treatments this past February...uterine cancer...grade one...
Your mentioning lack of oxygen and my having cancer....sure makes a person think:(
I have often wondered what creates the renegade cells that turn to cancer...oxygen deprivation makes sense.
Thanks again for the info and the concern, V.
-----Original Message----- From: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com [mailto:4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of wanda85929 Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:59 AM To: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Re: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?/Help
Virginia,
What I've always heard (don't know if it's true or not) in the alternative fields is cancer is caused by a lack of oxygen at the cellular level.
BTW, how are YOU doing?
Warmly,
Gail
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "Virginia" <vwolf21@...> wrote: > > I SENT THE POST FROM THE CS SITE TO EVERY ONE...MY BROTHER'S > YOUNGEST...AUDREY ...IS WHO HE IS REFERRING TO, IS THE MICROBIOLIGIST...AND > HER EX...THAT WOULD BE JEFF..IS A TRADITION DOC...AND MY BROTHER WILLIAM > SENT THIS BACK TO ME. > > -----Original Message----- > From: william glynn [mailto:rrglynn@...] > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:58 AM > To: Virginia McHugh; diane thomas; Kathie DeLuca; Michelle Glynn; robert > pavolonis; Ron Spagnola; Sharon Kalinay; Wendy Saxon > Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious? > > > reply from a microbioligist who has specialized in virus > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:46:32 -0700 > From: glynntastic@... > Subject: Re: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious? > To: rrglynn@... > > i read 2 sentences. cancer is a phenomenon of out of control cell > reproduction, not a virus! > [Virginia] THIS IS AUDREYS REPLY...WHAT UPSETS ME MOST..IS THE > WORDS.." I READ TWO SENTENCES"....SO OBVOUSLY THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION > HERE...BUT I WANT TO SEND A RESPONSE BACK...BUT I DON'T HAVE THE > KNOWLEDGE... > OF COURSE CANCER IS OUT OF CONTROL CELL PRODUCTION....BUT EVEN AS A > LAYPERSON...I HAVE READ ABOUT SOME CANCERS BEING CAUSED BY A VIRUS... > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/29/09, william glynn <rrglynn@...> wrote: > > > From: william glynn <rrglynn@...> > Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious? > To: "Audrey Glynn" <glynntastic@...>, "Jeffrey D. Williams" > <jeffodw@...> > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 7:25 AM > > > Is this true?? > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > From: vwolf21@... > To: rrglynn@... > Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious? > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:34:43 -0400 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Virginia [mailto:vwolf21@...] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:04 PM > To: vwolf21@... > Subject: Re: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious? > > > I have never had a flu shot in my life and agree with your email > here stating why ! > > Mary in MN > > In a message dated 8/24/2009 9:13:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > quantumbalancing@ yahoo.com writes: > I can't believe that in a group like this that people are getting > or planning on getting flu shots. All flu shots that have been tested this > year show the presence of live virus (including cancer) > [Virginia] THIS IS THE PART I NEED SOME CLARITY ON > PLEASE...************************************************* > and most batches of the vaccine contain crude nano technology. > The current strains of flu are weaponized mixtures of previous flu strains > and are being released worldwide through vaccinations with the purpose of > creating a pandemic. > > All of these current vaccines contain squalene, a highly toxic > compound which destroys the immune system and is now believed to be the > cause of gulf war syndrome. You can read more about squalene here: > http://www.organicc onsumers. org/articles/ article_18846. cfm > > You can listen to an mp3 of the latest researched vaccine > information and the horrors of getting a flu shot by Dr. Ott here: > http://educate- yourself. org/dnr/atrueott interviews22aug0 9.shtml > > You watch, the only people getting and spreading the flu this year > will be those foolish enough to have gotten a shot. > > Regards, > QB > Radiobiology Researcher > > > > > > > __ > > . > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try > it now. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on > Facebook. Find out more. >
All about the carbs and sugars, Tio.
Whether it's the South Beach diet, the Atkins, or The Makers Diet, they're all a
little different version of the same thing.
Good fats are good for you, but carbs/sugars just aren't. Must be in moderation
and a quality carb. Forget the sugars even honey or any so called good for you
sugar. But hey! I thought you didn't eat sugar????
Gail
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <cncsmetal@...> wrote:
>
> If silver ain't heavy just how am I supposed to explain my weight gain??
> No smartass answers please.. <G>
>
> Uncleben ..
>
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, cking001@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Actually you weight problem is all behind you now...
>
> Chuck
> Explain yourself, Chuck. Why is UB's weight problem all behind him now? What
am I missing? Gail
Virginia,
What I've always heard (don't know if it's true or not) in the alternative
fields is cancer is caused by a lack of oxygen at the cellular level.
BTW, how are YOU doing?
Warmly,
Gail
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "Virginia" <vwolf21@...> wrote:
>
> I SENT THE POST FROM THE CS SITE TO EVERY ONE...MY BROTHER'S
> YOUNGEST...AUDREY ...IS WHO HE IS REFERRING TO, IS THE MICROBIOLIGIST...AND
> HER EX...THAT WOULD BE JEFF..IS A TRADITION DOC...AND MY BROTHER WILLIAM
> SENT THIS BACK TO ME.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: william glynn [mailto:rrglynn@...]
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:58 AM
> To: Virginia McHugh; diane thomas; Kathie DeLuca; Michelle Glynn; robert
> pavolonis; Ron Spagnola; Sharon Kalinay; Wendy Saxon
> Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
>
>
> reply from a microbioligist who has specialized in virus
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:46:32 -0700
> From: glynntastic@...
> Subject: Re: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
> To: rrglynn@...
>
> i read 2 sentences. cancer is a phenomenon of out of control cell
> reproduction, not a virus!
> [Virginia] THIS IS AUDREYS REPLY...WHAT UPSETS ME MOST..IS THE
> WORDS.." I READ TWO SENTENCES"....SO OBVOUSLY THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION
> HERE...BUT I WANT TO SEND A RESPONSE BACK...BUT I DON'T HAVE THE
> KNOWLEDGE...
> OF COURSE CANCER IS OUT OF CONTROL CELL PRODUCTION....BUT EVEN AS A
> LAYPERSON...I HAVE READ ABOUT SOME CANCERS BEING CAUSED BY A VIRUS...
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 8/29/09, william glynn <rrglynn@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: william glynn <rrglynn@...>
> Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
> To: "Audrey Glynn" <glynntastic@...>, "Jeffrey D. Williams"
> <jeffodw@...>
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 7:25 AM
>
>
> Is this true??
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: vwolf21@...
> To: rrglynn@...
> Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:34:43 -0400
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Virginia [mailto:vwolf21@...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:04 PM
> To: vwolf21@...
> Subject: Re: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
>
>
> I have never had a flu shot in my life and agree with your email
> here stating why !
>
> Mary in MN
>
> In a message dated 8/24/2009 9:13:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> quantumbalancing@ yahoo.com writes:
> I can't believe that in a group like this that people are getting
> or planning on getting flu shots. All flu shots that have been tested this
> year show the presence of live virus (including cancer)
> [Virginia] THIS IS THE PART I NEED SOME CLARITY ON
> PLEASE...*************************************************
> and most batches of the vaccine contain crude nano technology.
> The current strains of flu are weaponized mixtures of previous flu strains
> and are being released worldwide through vaccinations with the purpose of
> creating a pandemic.
>
> All of these current vaccines contain squalene, a highly toxic
> compound which destroys the immune system and is now believed to be the
> cause of gulf war syndrome. You can read more about squalene here:
> http://www.organicc onsumers. org/articles/ article_18846. cfm
>
> You can listen to an mp3 of the latest researched vaccine
> information and the horrors of getting a flu shot by Dr. Ott here:
> http://educate- yourself. org/dnr/atrueott interviews22aug0 9.shtml
>
> You watch, the only people getting and spreading the flu this year
> will be those foolish enough to have gotten a shot.
>
> Regards,
> QB
> Radiobiology Researcher
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __
>
> .
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> it now.
>
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Contained herein is the typical, in the matrix, response from a medical doctor
or health care professional that cancer is out of control cell production. Well,
DUH! That's like saying that the pain in your elbow is caused by elbow pain. The
question is, what causes the out of control cell production? The answer is
pleomorphic virus that react perceptually to the environment.
QB
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "Virginia" <vwolf21@...> wrote:
>
> I SENT THE POST FROM THE CS SITE TO EVERY ONE...MY BROTHER'S
> YOUNGEST...AUDREY ...IS WHO HE IS REFERRING TO, IS THE MICROBIOLIGIST...AND
> HER EX...THAT WOULD BE JEFF..IS A TRADITION DOC...AND MY BROTHER WILLIAM
> SENT THIS BACK TO ME.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: william glynn [mailto:rrglynn@...]
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:58 AM
> To: Virginia McHugh; diane thomas; Kathie DeLuca; Michelle Glynn; robert
> pavolonis; Ron Spagnola; Sharon Kalinay; Wendy Saxon
> Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
>
>
> reply from a microbioligist who has specialized in virus
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:46:32 -0700
> From: glynntastic@...
> Subject: Re: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
> To: rrglynn@...
>
> i read 2 sentences. cancer is a phenomenon of out of control cell
> reproduction, not a virus!
> [Virginia] THIS IS AUDREYS REPLY...WHAT UPSETS ME MOST..IS THE
> WORDS.." I READ TWO SENTENCES"....SO OBVOUSLY THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION
> HERE...BUT I WANT TO SEND A RESPONSE BACK...BUT I DON'T HAVE THE
> KNOWLEDGE...
> OF COURSE CANCER IS OUT OF CONTROL CELL PRODUCTION....BUT EVEN AS A
> LAYPERSON...I HAVE READ ABOUT SOME CANCERS BEING CAUSED BY A VIRUS...
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 8/29/09, william glynn <rrglynn@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: william glynn <rrglynn@...>
> Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
> To: "Audrey Glynn" <glynntastic@...>, "Jeffrey D. Williams"
> <jeffodw@...>
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 7:25 AM
>
>
> Is this true??
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: vwolf21@...
> To: rrglynn@...
> Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:34:43 -0400
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Virginia [mailto:vwolf21@...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:04 PM
> To: vwolf21@...
> Subject: Re: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
>
>
> I have never had a flu shot in my life and agree with your email
> here stating why !
>
> Mary in MN
>
> In a message dated 8/24/2009 9:13:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> quantumbalancing@ yahoo.com writes:
> I can't believe that in a group like this that people are getting
> or planning on getting flu shots. All flu shots that have been tested this
> year show the presence of live virus (including cancer)
> [Virginia] THIS IS THE PART I NEED SOME CLARITY ON
> PLEASE...*************************************************
> and most batches of the vaccine contain crude nano technology.
> The current strains of flu are weaponized mixtures of previous flu strains
> and are being released worldwide through vaccinations with the purpose of
> creating a pandemic.
>
> All of these current vaccines contain squalene, a highly toxic
> compound which destroys the immune system and is now believed to be the
> cause of gulf war syndrome. You can read more about squalene here:
> http://www.organicc onsumers. org/articles/ article_18846. cfm
>
> You can listen to an mp3 of the latest researched vaccine
> information and the horrors of getting a flu shot by Dr. Ott here:
> http://educate- yourself. org/dnr/atrueott interviews22aug0 9.shtml
>
> You watch, the only people getting and spreading the flu this year
> will be those foolish enough to have gotten a shot.
>
> Regards,
> QB
> Radiobiology Researcher
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __
>
> .
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try
> it now.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on
> Facebook. Find out more.
>
I SENT THE POST FROM THE CS SITE TO EVERY ONE...MY BROTHER'S YOUNGEST...AUDREY ...IS WHO HE IS REFERRING TO, IS THE MICROBIOLIGIST...AND HER EX...THAT WOULD BE JEFF..IS A TRADITION DOC...AND MY BROTHER WILLIAM SENT THIS BACK TO ME.
-----Original Message----- From: william glynn [mailto:rrglynn@...] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:58 AM To: Virginia McHugh; diane thomas; Kathie DeLuca; Michelle Glynn; robert pavolonis; Ron Spagnola; Sharon Kalinay; Wendy Saxon Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
reply from a microbioligist who has specialized in virus
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:46:32 -0700 From: glynntastic@... Subject: Re: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious? To: rrglynn@...
i read 2 sentences. cancer is a phenomenon of out of control cell reproduction, not a virus! [Virginia] THIS IS AUDREYS REPLY...WHAT UPSETS ME MOST..IS THE WORDS.." I READ TWO SENTENCES"....SO OBVOUSLY THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION HERE...BUT I WANT TO SEND A RESPONSE BACK...BUT I DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE...
OF COURSE CANCER IS OUT OF CONTROL CELL PRODUCTION....BUT EVEN AS A LAYPERSON...I HAVE READ ABOUT SOME CANCERS BEING CAUSED BY A VIRUS...
--- On Sat, 8/29/09, william glynn <rrglynn@...> wrote:
From: william glynn <rrglynn@...> Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious? To: "Audrey Glynn" <glynntastic@...>, "Jeffrey D. Williams" <jeffodw@...> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 7:25 AM
Is this true??
From: vwolf21@... To: rrglynn@... Subject: FW: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious? Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:34:43 -0400
-----Original Message----- From: Virginia [mailto:vwolf21@...] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:04 PM To: vwolf21@... Subject: Re: flu shots v CS for the flu - Are You Serious?
I have never had a flu shot in my life and agree with your email here stating why !
Mary in MN
In a message dated 8/24/2009 9:13:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, quantumbalancing@ yahoo.com writes:
I can't believe that in a group like this that people are getting or planning on getting flu shots. All flu shots that have been tested this year show the presence of live virus (including cancer) [Virginia] THIS IS THE PART I NEED SOME CLARITY ON PLEASE...*************************************************
and most batches of the vaccine contain crude nano technology. The current strains of flu are weaponized mixtures of previous flu strains and are being released worldwide through vaccinations with the purpose of creating a pandemic.
All of these current vaccines contain squalene, a highly toxic compound which destroys the immune system and is now believed to be the cause of gulf war syndrome. You can read more about squalene here: http://www.organicc onsumers. org/articles/ article_18846. cfm
Pregnant?
Time of month?
Actually you weight problem is all behind you now...
Chuck
My cat has 9 lives, but my frog croaks daily!
On 8/25/2009 1:23:15 PM, cncsmetal75708 (cncsmetal@...) wrote:
> If silver ain't heavy just how am I supposed to explain my weight gain??
> No smartass answers please.. <G>
>
> Uncleben ..
>
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06:08:00
I have never had a flu shot in my life and agree with your email here stating why !
Mary in MN
In a message dated 8/24/2009 9:13:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, quantumbalancing@... writes:
I can't believe that in a group like this that people are getting or planning on getting flu shots. All flu shots that have been tested this year show the presence of live virus (including cancer) and most batches of the vaccine contain crude nano technology. The current strains of flu are weaponized mixtures of previous flu strains and are being released worldwide through vaccinations with the purpose of creating a pandemic.
All of these current vaccines contain squalene, a highly toxic compound which destroys the immune system and is now believed to be the cause of gulf war syndrome. You can read more about squalene here: http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_18846.cfm
I can't believe that in a group like this that people are getting or planning on
getting flu shots. All flu shots that have been tested this year show the
presence of live virus (including cancer) and most batches of the vaccine
contain crude nano technology. The current strains of flu are weaponized
mixtures of previous flu strains and are being released worldwide through
vaccinations with the purpose of creating a pandemic.
All of these current vaccines contain squalene, a highly toxic compound which
destroys the immune system and is now believed to be the cause of gulf war
syndrome. You can read more about squalene here:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_18846.cfm
You can listen to an mp3 of the latest researched vaccine information and the
horrors of getting a flu shot by Dr. Ott here:
http://educate-yourself.org/dnr/atrueottinterviews22aug09.shtml
You watch, the only people getting and spreading the flu this year will be those
foolish enough to have gotten a shot.
Regards,
QB
Radiobiology Researcher
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, Michelle M Ress <Safoocat@...> wrote:
>
> I thought I asked this earlier but never saw it come up.
> Is anyone taking a flu shot this year or is CS enough?
> This is the first year I've been using CS and have been
> getting the flu shot.
> Michelle
>
Is anyone getting a flu shot this year?
I need to decide whether to get one or not when the VA
offers it. This will be the first year I've had CS to use
so haven't decided yet.
Michelle
We should be supplementing with Selenium and E as well as goodly amounts of C daily.
Best way is by food, I agree..
2 to 3 Brazil Nuts a day and a handful of Almonds does the body good.
I am working the program trying to rebuild my system after the radiation treatments I had last Winter.
I made the mistake of Listening to the Oncologist when she asked me to stop all supplements while I was being treated.
Should most certainly have continued with them...live and learn.
Anyhow, didn't know that about the Selenium and CS.
I take much more than a teaspoon of CS a day. V.
-----Original Message----- From: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com [mailto:4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of cyndik2 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:16 PM To: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Re: CS and Selenium
Thanks, Del. That puts my mind at ease!
Cyndi
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "Del" <del@...> wrote: > > If you use LARGE amounts of CS (much more than a teaspoon) you want to supplement with selenium (200 mcg daily (that's MICRO grams, not milligrams)) and with Vit E to prevent a build up of silver in the bloodstream. The idea is that the silver that goes into the body should always cycle out pretty quickly. If it were to build up, it could lead to argyria. > > I have also read that CS depletes the body's supply of selenium, so you need to replenish it. > > A couple of brazil nuts per day should do the trick, if you don't want to take pills. > > Del > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: inocosino > To: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:45 AM > Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Re: CS and Selenium > > > OK, Thank You. > > N. > > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@> wrote: > > > > CS is shop bought from Utopia. > > 20 ppm > > One teaspoon per day > > Ingesting every day for about a month now > > Selenium-Im taking it as part of an Iodine supplementation program. > > Assists in the production two enzymes: glutathione peroxidase (reacts with H2O2to reduce H to H2O) and iodothyroinine deiodinase (controls the removal of an iodine molecule to convert from T4 to T3, T3 to T2 and T2 to T1). > > > > So I was concerned to hear that Selenium would remove the CS from my system. > > > > Thanks, > > Cyndi > > > > > > > > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "inocosino" <nevillemunn@> wrote: > > > > > > Out of curiosity... > > > 1. Is the CS home produced or shop bought? I don't care what the brand is, just if it's home made or not. > > > 2. What ppm is it? > > > 3. How much are you ingesting? > > > 4. Are you ingesting it every day? > > > 5. Is there a reason for taking Selenium as well as CS? > > > > > > I'm just doing my own research which is why the questions, of course you don't have to answer them. > > > > > > N. > > > > > > > > > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Someone mentioned on another list that "If you want to get CS out of your system, take Selenium." > > > > > > > > Well, I do supplement with selenium. Does that mean I am not absorbing the CS properly? How far apart should I take them? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Cyndi > > > > > > > > > >
Thanks, Del. That puts my mind at ease!
Cyndi
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "Del" <del@...> wrote:
>
> If you use LARGE amounts of CS (much more than a teaspoon) you want to
supplement with selenium (200 mcg daily (that's MICRO grams, not milligrams))
and with Vit E to prevent a build up of silver in the bloodstream. The idea is
that the silver that goes into the body should always cycle out pretty quickly.
If it were to build up, it could lead to argyria.
>
> I have also read that CS depletes the body's supply of selenium, so you need
to replenish it.
>
> A couple of brazil nuts per day should do the trick, if you don't want to take
pills.
>
> Del
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: inocosino
> To: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:45 AM
> Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Re: CS and Selenium
>
>
> OK, Thank You.
>
> N.
>
> --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@> wrote:
> >
> > CS is shop bought from Utopia.
> > 20 ppm
> > One teaspoon per day
> > Ingesting every day for about a month now
> > Selenium-Im taking it as part of an Iodine supplementation program.
> > Assists in the production two enzymes: glutathione peroxidase (reacts with
H2O2to reduce H to H2O) and iodothyroinine deiodinase (controls the removal of
an iodine molecule to convert from T4 to T3, T3 to T2 and T2 to T1).
> >
> > So I was concerned to hear that Selenium would remove the CS from my
system.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Cyndi
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "inocosino" <nevillemunn@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Out of curiosity...
> > > 1. Is the CS home produced or shop bought? I don't care what the brand
is, just if it's home made or not.
> > > 2. What ppm is it?
> > > 3. How much are you ingesting?
> > > 4. Are you ingesting it every day?
> > > 5. Is there a reason for taking Selenium as well as CS?
> > >
> > > I'm just doing my own research which is why the questions, of course you
don't have to answer them.
> > >
> > > N.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Someone mentioned on another list that "If you want to get CS out of
your system, take Selenium."
> > > >
> > > > Well, I do supplement with selenium. Does that mean I am not absorbing
the CS properly? How far apart should I take them?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Cyndi
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
OK, no worries, none of the things you speak of are of any concern to me
however, but Thanks for mentioning them, I thought there may have been a
particular reason which is why I asked initially.
N.
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "Del" <del@...> wrote:
>
> If you use LARGE amounts of CS (much more than a teaspoon) you want to
supplement with selenium (200 mcg daily (that's MICRO grams, not milligrams))
and with Vit E to prevent a build up of silver in the bloodstream. The idea is
that the silver that goes into the body should always cycle out pretty quickly.
If it were to build up, it could lead to argyria.
>
> I have also read that CS depletes the body's supply of selenium, so you need
to replenish it.
>
> A couple of brazil nuts per day should do the trick, if you don't want to take
pills.
>
> Del
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: inocosino
> To: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:45 AM
> Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Re: CS and Selenium
>
>
> OK, Thank You.
>
> N.
>
> --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@> wrote:
> >
> > CS is shop bought from Utopia.
> > 20 ppm
> > One teaspoon per day
> > Ingesting every day for about a month now
> > Selenium-Im taking it as part of an Iodine supplementation program.
> > Assists in the production two enzymes: glutathione peroxidase (reacts with
H2O2to reduce H to H2O) and iodothyroinine deiodinase (controls the removal of
an iodine molecule to convert from T4 to T3, T3 to T2 and T2 to T1).
> >
> > So I was concerned to hear that Selenium would remove the CS from my
system.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Cyndi
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "inocosino" <nevillemunn@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Out of curiosity...
> > > 1. Is the CS home produced or shop bought? I don't care what the brand
is, just if it's home made or not.
> > > 2. What ppm is it?
> > > 3. How much are you ingesting?
> > > 4. Are you ingesting it every day?
> > > 5. Is there a reason for taking Selenium as well as CS?
> > >
> > > I'm just doing my own research which is why the questions, of course you
don't have to answer them.
> > >
> > > N.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Someone mentioned on another list that "If you want to get CS out of
your system, take Selenium."
> > > >
> > > > Well, I do supplement with selenium. Does that mean I am not absorbing
the CS properly? How far apart should I take them?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Cyndi
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
If you use LARGE amounts of CS (much more than a teaspoon) you want to supplement with selenium (200 mcg daily (that's MICRO grams, not milligrams)) and with Vit E to prevent a build up of silver in the bloodstream. The idea is that the silver that goes into the body should always cycle out pretty quickly. If it were to build up, it could lead to argyria.
I have also read that CS depletes the body's supply of selenium, so you need to replenish it.
A couple of brazil nuts per day should do the trick, if you don't want to take pills.
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@...> wrote: > > CS is shop bought from Utopia. > 20 ppm > One teaspoon per day > Ingesting every day for about a month now > Selenium-Im taking it as part of an Iodine supplementation program. > Assists in the production two enzymes: glutathione peroxidase (reacts with H2O2to reduce H to H2O) and iodothyroinine deiodinase (controls the removal of an iodine molecule to convert from T4 to T3, T3 to T2 and T2 to T1). > > So I was concerned to hear that Selenium would remove the CS from my system. > > Thanks, > Cyndi > > > > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "inocosino" <nevillemunn@> wrote: > > > > Out of curiosity... > > 1. Is the CS home produced or shop bought? I don't care what the brand is, just if it's home made or not. > > 2. What ppm is it? > > 3. How much are you ingesting? > > 4. Are you ingesting it every day? > > 5. Is there a reason for taking Selenium as well as CS? > > > > I'm just doing my own research which is why the questions, of course you don't have to answer them. > > > > N. > > > > > > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@> wrote: > > > > > > Someone mentioned on another list that "If you want to get CS out of your system, take Selenium." > > > > > > Well, I do supplement with selenium. Does that mean I am not absorbing the CS properly? How far apart should I take them? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Cyndi > > > > > >
OK, Thank You.
N.
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@...> wrote:
>
> CS is shop bought from Utopia.
> 20 ppm
> One teaspoon per day
> Ingesting every day for about a month now
> Selenium-Im taking it as part of an Iodine supplementation program.
> Assists in the production two enzymes: glutathione peroxidase (reacts with
H2O2to reduce H to H2O) and iodothyroinine deiodinase (controls the removal of
an iodine molecule to convert from T4 to T3, T3 to T2 and T2 to T1).
>
> So I was concerned to hear that Selenium would remove the CS from my system.
>
> Thanks,
> Cyndi
>
>
>
> --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "inocosino" <nevillemunn@> wrote:
> >
> > Out of curiosity...
> > 1. Is the CS home produced or shop bought? I don't care what the brand is,
just if it's home made or not.
> > 2. What ppm is it?
> > 3. How much are you ingesting?
> > 4. Are you ingesting it every day?
> > 5. Is there a reason for taking Selenium as well as CS?
> >
> > I'm just doing my own research which is why the questions, of course you
don't have to answer them.
> >
> > N.
> >
> >
> > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Someone mentioned on another list that "If you want to get CS out of your
system, take Selenium."
> > >
> > > Well, I do supplement with selenium. Does that mean I am not absorbing the
CS properly? How far apart should I take them?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Cyndi
> > >
> >
>
CS is shop bought from Utopia.
20 ppm
One teaspoon per day
Ingesting every day for about a month now
Selenium-Im taking it as part of an Iodine supplementation program.
Assists in the production two enzymes: glutathione peroxidase (reacts with
H2O2to reduce H to H2O) and iodothyroinine deiodinase (controls the removal of
an iodine molecule to convert from T4 to T3, T3 to T2 and T2 to T1).
So I was concerned to hear that Selenium would remove the CS from my system.
Thanks,
Cyndi
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "inocosino" <nevillemunn@...> wrote:
>
> Out of curiosity...
> 1. Is the CS home produced or shop bought? I don't care what the brand is,
just if it's home made or not.
> 2. What ppm is it?
> 3. How much are you ingesting?
> 4. Are you ingesting it every day?
> 5. Is there a reason for taking Selenium as well as CS?
>
> I'm just doing my own research which is why the questions, of course you don't
have to answer them.
>
> N.
>
>
> --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@> wrote:
> >
> > Someone mentioned on another list that "If you want to get CS out of your
system, take Selenium."
> >
> > Well, I do supplement with selenium. Does that mean I am not absorbing the
CS properly? How far apart should I take them?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Cyndi
> >
>
Out of curiosity...
1. Is the CS home produced or shop bought? I don't care what the brand is, just
if it's home made or not.
2. What ppm is it?
3. How much are you ingesting?
4. Are you ingesting it every day?
5. Is there a reason for taking Selenium as well as CS?
I'm just doing my own research which is why the questions, of course you don't
have to answer them.
N.
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cyndik2" <cyndikrall@...> wrote:
>
> Someone mentioned on another list that "If you want to get CS out of your
system, take Selenium."
>
> Well, I do supplement with selenium. Does that mean I am not absorbing the CS
properly? How far apart should I take them?
>
> Thanks!
> Cyndi
>
Someone mentioned on another list that "If you want to get CS out of your
system, take Selenium."
Well, I do supplement with selenium. Does that mean I am not absorbing the CS
properly? How far apart should I take them?
Thanks!
Cyndi
"Seek and ye shall find"..no further instructions.
Silver is a "noble metal", like Gold
It is NOT a "heavy metal"
Different contexts have different definitions of "Noble", but **Silver**
is defined as Noble in all of them.
Where definition concerns "us"......
Electrochemistry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_metals
Metallic elements, including several non-noble metals, sorted by their
chemical "nobility" (noble metals bolded):
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_metals#cite_note-9>[10]
element group reaction potential
Gold Ib/6 Au ' Au3+ + 3 e1.498 V
Platinum VIIIb/6 Pt ' Pt2+ + 2 e1.18 V
Iridium VIIIb/6 Ir ' Ir3+ + 3 e1.156 V
Palladium VIIIb/5 Pd ' Pd2+ + 2 e0.987 V
Osmium VIIIb/6 Os + 4 H2O ' OsO4 + 8 H+ + 8 e0.838 V
Silver Ib/5 Ag ' Ag+ + e0.7996 V
Mercury IIb/6 2 Hg ' Hg22+ + 2 e0.7973 V
Polonium VIa/6 Po ' Po2+ + 2 e0.65 V
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_metals#cite_note-10>[11]
Rhodium VIIIb/5 Rh ' Rh2+ + 2 e0.600 V
Ruthenium VIIIb/5 Ru ' Ru2+ + 2 e0.455 V
Copper Ib/4 Cu ' Cu2+ + 2 e0.337 V
Bismuth Va/6 Bi ' Bi3+ + 3 e0.308 V
Technetium VIIb/5 Tc + 2 H2O ' TcO2 + 4 H+ + 4 e0.272 V
Rhenium VIIb/6 Re + 2 H2O ' ReO2 + 4 H+ + 4 e0.259 V
Antimony Va/5 2 Sb + 3 H2O ' Sb2O3 + 6 H+ + 6 e0.152 V
A few years ago the EPA revised it's max daily consumption of silver in
drinking water to above what the average person using CS would intake.
Silver "can" impact cells..but it takes about enough to make a bullet out
of in a single dose.
Copper is FAR more dangerous in much smaller concentrations.
Both are regulated by the body using the same mechanisms.
For that very reason, it's actually somewhat hard to build up enough
silver to get the job done in indirect applications.
Silver has no biological niche as a micro-nutrient and is, therefore, not
toxic even in higher concentrations, copper does.
Too much silver won't kill you, too much copper will. Copper is very
difficult to avoid.
BTW Colloidal Copper [and Colloidal Zinc] kills germs almost as well as
Silver, but that much Copper [or Zinc] can do real harm.
Yes, Silver CAN harm your kidneys, but the amount it takes to do that is
IMPOSSIBLE to put in water and using enough water to get that much silver
will kill you "right now"
Ie..the Water is more dangerous than the Silver.
Both Copper and Silver have an affinity for *already* damaged nerve
tissue and is used to stain damaged cells for study in cadavers. [ "Cupro
Silver staining "]
That "might" indicate that CS could *possibly* seek out damaged nerve cells
and "maybe" heal them ....if that damage is being caused by a pathogen.
The following from Rosemary Jacobs web site [The Blue Lady poster child,
funded by who knows who. ] before she removed the links that, if actually
"read" ...DIS-proved her claims of danger..
During Argyria studies done on dogs, not only did the researchers fail to
make any dogs blue using injections in the thousands of PPM, they had to
try REAL hard to kill any intentionally and mostly failed to do so at ANY dose.
Those that survived were perfectly healthy in a few days.
In frustration, one researcher went to the Silver Industry to study their
records over the past 100 years.
Even before people were aware of possible harm from inhaling *any* sort
of dust and smelting vapors in large quantities day after day and didn't
wear masks, the incidence of Agryria was 1 in 2,000 workers and absenteeism
from colds, lung problems and such was far below the norm.
Next to direct injection, inhalation is the most direct route to the
blood stream there is.
" Dogs given an inhaled dose of finely ground silver dust, eliminated 90%
in 30 days" [Phalen and Morrow 1973]
Rats and mice, oral exposure, 98-99% elimination in 24 hours....monkeys
94% [US EPA 1985 ]
The ONLY risk factor officially stated for the over use of Silver is
Argyria..purely cosmetic, not a health issue....and is a very low risk, at
that.
A while back, the FDA responded to a "silverlist" members FOIA request
for an accounting of cases of "health issues" due to the use of Colloidal
Silver...it came back "ZERO".
No cases on record.
..even though many thousands had been making and using it with NO idea
about what they were doing, for at least 30 years.
The FDAs "final word" reads like a collection of legal default "Butt Covers"
Translated:
We don't know and we have found no reason to go find out.
If you ask, we'll just say no to cover our asses...don't ask.
Just follow the labeling rules and you'll have our finely tuned "blind eye".
..now, go home, ya bother us.
"Not proven safe and effective"
Does NOT mean, " Proven unsafe and ineffective"
..it merely means "Not Proven" either way, to any standards we would accept
as proof.
Thousands of testimonies and hundreds of clinical studies don't reach
that grade standard.
..nor do any of you have enough money to "buy" proof, so just go home and
let us get back to whoring around with the Pharm that CAN pay our price to
trust THEIR studies.
[Or step up to the plate and start funding *true* studies, done by US.
..got a few extra billion hanging around? Thought not.]
It's like the "Product Safety Commission" being expected to keep us safe
from all insult from the import of billions of tons of goods, using 2,000
in total staff working with stone aged equipment made back in the early 80s.
..ain't gonna happen.
So go give your kid a motorcycle fender to chew on and blame us when they
get as stupid as you are.
Take the blame?
Lock your dumb butts up in a straight jacket of mindless "Butt Cover"
restrictions?
THAT we can do.
Doesn't even need a budget.
When we seek approval but won't pay to define what that approval is and
REFUSE to define it ourselves......
We get what we got.
"Here, take this padlock and go lock yourself up in a closet"
Ode
At 03:21 PM 8/18/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>
>
>Hi all. A little background to preface...
>My family and I started using CS about a month and a half ago. We make our
>own with the Silverpuppy generator. I have three children and I've
>explained to them what CS is and why we are using it. I use it daily, a
>few tablespoons, and my wife uses it occasionally. A couple of months ago
>my son had the swine-flu, right after I purchased CS for the first time,
>and he took about two tablespoons per day and got well quickly. I had a
>painful rash that had hurt for months and it went away. We've stopped
>using fluoridated tooth-paste and we use CS as a mouth-rinse also. My
>teeth feel great after years of sensitivity, so I have my children use it
>in the evening, gargle then spit it out. They don't ingest it daily, but I
>believe they receive some sub-lingual benefits while rinsing. We use it
>topically on scrapes etc. So, that is to say that we know it is a
>healthful and helpful homeopathic.
>
>So, here's the problem. My in-laws, our children's grandparents - came to
>visit. My children of course proudly told them about how we use CS and
>explained all the wonderful benefits. I loved it, but knew that they would
>be critical. They immediately jumped on the blue man thing, "doesn't that
>make you turn blue...Oprah had a guy on that was blue from it..."
>
>My wife and I tried to explain to them the disinfo campaign from the media
>and pharmaceutical corporations, but it was useless since they trust
>big-pharma, the media and government.
>
>After their visit, they went home and hit the internet. Oh boy, they dug
>up all kinds of 'dirt', called my dear wife and threw it at her.
>
>A little more history, our daughter, who is 8, has one kidney and for
>years had suffered from UTI's and kidney infections. She was on
>antibiotics for most of her infant/toddler years, then had surgery
>correcting a tube that was incorrectly located from the bladder to the
>kidney causing urinary reflux. So she is better and her one kidney is
>healthy and unharmed.
>
>So, they had found information that stated that CS is dangerous to the
>kidneys and our daughter is in danger from our use of CS. This was after
>my wife explained that our daughter had a minor UTI. Her mother got quiet,
>then blasted her...they scared my wife, since she had never heard of this
>issue.
>
>They then went into how it is toxic and a dangerous heavy metal. It
>sounded like they'd read the quackwatch article and such. They asked that
>we not give it to our children.
>
>My wife remained calm and said we'd look into it. We have and we decided
>it would be most effective to prepare a written letter citing rebuttals
>and science against the disinfo and lies about CS that they've read.
>
>Does anyone have specific information pertaining to the kidney damage
>purportedly caused by CS? Toxicity / heavy metal? Children using CS?
>
>
At 02:52 PM 8/18/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>
>
>Hi. I am a newbie too and have had similar experiences (various resources
>stating different 'facts', media lies etc) while reading everything I can
>get my hands on, but as others here have stated, I believe I have figured
>out truth from lies and/or hyperbole.
>
><The first question is will reverse osmosis water be okay to make my cs?>
>I personally use only steam distilled water.
## RO water "can be" good enough, but usually isn't.
><The second is about dosage. From what I see in the messages, depending on
>what ails you, any thing from 1 teaspoon a day to several ounces a day.
>That's all fine and good, but what about the strength of the cs? PPM? 3 to
>5 ppm? 10ppm? 15, 20?>
## There are no standards that make any sense.
It's ALL intuition.
The difference is mostly how much water to drink to get how much silver.
In a *given* local, higher PPM works faster. In a disbursed application,
the extra water doesn't matter much.
At 20 PPM and under, it's highly unlikely you'll get enough silver
*retained* to turn blue in an average life span without "water toxicity"
killing you first ...and fast.
>I purchased the Silverpuppy and on the auto-mode I get 10ppm-18ppm. I've
>read that 5-10ppm is a good range that can efficiently be used.
## That's probably a difference in "when" you measure it.
The real "reading" is AFTER it stops dropping over time and is generally
very consistent between batches of the same size.
Ode
>
#1) Dr Beck may have been a great Doc, but he knew almost nothing about
"making" CS
[Don't doctors have to take chemistry classes? ]
Back then, no one did, everyone thought they did and there are a lot of
parrots passing that same old song around to this day.
#2) it still worked.
#3) almost NO one turned blue even while not knowing what the heck they
were doing.
Thousands and thousands of people, completely ignorant for 30+ years and
what? ...5 or so Smurfs?
Ode
At 12:33 PM 8/18/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>
>
>[I don't know why, but it turned me off from using it]
>-I don't know why it would have turned you off either? You probably just
>got confused with all the BS out there. Separating fact from fiction can
>get a tad tedious and boring after a while <g>.
>
>[letting the media form an opinion for me]
>-Have you read the media reports about millions of people lined up outside
>doctors surgeries all around the globe, waiting to get in to get a cure
>because they have turned 'blue'? Nup, thought not, that's because there's
>no reports to publish, and that's because there's no 'blue' people to
>report on...nudge nudge, wink wink, say n'more!
>
>[I felt the videos by Dr. Bob gave me a way to do it]
>-Yeah he did, Beck made it possible for anyone to make it, and I owe him a
>debt of gratitude for that, but don't use just *any* water as he did.
>
>Can't answer first question, but as for the other two, I got nothing
>'ailing' me and I ingest a small quantity every morning, and that's of a
>ppm between 10-20. I don't bother with specific ppm's, I work within a ppm
>'range', and anywhere within the aforesaid range does me fine.
>
>[Every article I read says something different.]
>-And every article you continue to read for evermore will say something
>different <g>.
>
>N.
>
>--- In
><mailto:4COLLOIDALSILVER%40yahoogroups.com>4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com,
>"beeroo" <beeroo@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks
> >
> > I was just re-introduced to CS about 2 weeks ago. I knew about it
> several years ago, was going to start using it, and then the news came
> out about the guy that turned blue from using it. I don't know why, but
> it turned me off from using it. I should have known better than letting
> the media form an opinion for me. I should have had just the opposite
> reaction, and figured that people were on to something good with CS, if
> the media was sounding the warning bells.
> > I was on YouTube the other day, and saw a series of videos by Dr. Bob
> Beck concerning CS, electric currents for the blood, magnetic pulsing,
> etc. Well my wife and I are both currently unemployed with no medical
> insurance,(maybe a blessing in disguise, eh?!)and I figured it was time
> to take my health into my own hands. I felt the videos by Dr. Bob gave me
> a way to do it.
> > I have started looking more into the CS, but have a few questions.
> >
> > Please don't make me go through all of the messages on this board for
> my answers!
> >
> > The first question is will reverse osmosis water be okay to make my cs?
> >
> > The second is about dosage. From what I see in the messages, depending
> on what ails you, any thing from 1 teaspoon a day to several ounces a
> day. That's all fine and good, but what about the strength of the cs?
> PPM? 3 to 5 ppm? 10ppm? 15, 20?
> > Sorry if I am asking really basic questions. I know this can be
> annoying to people who have been doing this for a long time. Every
> article I read says something different.
> >
> > Help!
> >
>
>
--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "alchemysa" <mail@...> wrote: > > 5 minutes research on Google wiill convince you that colloidal silver is a dangerous killer toxin. 5 hours research will reveal that most of the scare stories are spread by nitwits who have no personal knowledge of CS whatsoever. > > The 'kidney damage' story is crap. I've investigated it pretty thoroughly over the years and can't find any solid basis for it. > > There are 3 possible sources for this myth... > > 1. The ridiculous, often repeated theory that a mouthful of colloidal silver might cause the same symptoms as a head full of zinc fumes..i.e Metal Fume Fever. Read the symptoms here in Wikipedia. You will often seem them repeated on sites warning of the dangers of drinking colloidal silver. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_fume_feverhttp > > 2. Experiments on rats about 30 years. They were fed very high doses of silver nitrate every day for about 150 days, then cut open and examined. Naturally, silver was found in the kidneys - but it hadn't actually harmed the rats. It would be impossible for a person to consume enough colloidal silver to match the dosage the rats ingested nevertheless it was enough to start a myth that silver MIGHT damage kidneys. > > 3. Years ago I found a reference to some medical procedure in India where a large shot of very potent silver nitrate is injected directly into the human kidney to try and cure some type of ailment. This apparently was (or still is perhaps) a legitimate medical procedure but if it was done incorrectly it could occasionally do more harm than good. This has little or no relevance to drinking good quality colloidal silver but it makes a good basis for a scare campaign. > > > There are no actual case histories of colloidal silver causing kidney damage. > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > and cant find --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "truthseeds" <buddizzle@> wrote: > >