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#1373 From: "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...>
Date: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:28 pm
Subject: Vitamin C/ lysine protocol
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Hello Group!

This site is so busy I just can't seem to get a word in edgewise! lol
Last post was 1-25, so thought I'd chime in a little.

Anybody here ever do Pauling's C/lysine protocol for heart/stoke
prevention that also did clinical testing after doing the protocol to
verify the improvement?  You read really good results, but then again
every site has testimonials all the time.  I was wondering if anybody
had any personal experience with it.  I've done the protocol in the
past just for prevenative measures (I am getting up in years) but
didn't do a maintenance dose.  I've strated back on it because if the
things I read about it are true, we'd be a fool not to be on it.

Also, on the Dr. West lymphazing questions.  I have his tapes/program
on it and although they're somewhat hard to follow, they're worth the
knowledge to know how to do it.  On other lists, the speed healing has
been tried and noted to work.  It's been a while since it was
discussed, tho; but yes, it is a good thing to know that does benefit
health.

Anybody wanna chat???

Gail

#1372 From: "Linda" <chapel555@...>
Date: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: CS and X-ray machines
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Thanks Louise!

#1371 From: <louise46@...>
Date: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:08 am
Subject: RE: CS and X-ray machines
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Hi Linda;

I  traveled to Australia (to take an Australian Bush Flower Essences course)
with my homeopathic remedies, Australian Bush Flower Essences  and CS and
all did OK in the X-ray machines though they hand checked the remedies
because the glowed funny but they did their drug testing and I passed OK the
remedies were all OK.  You can ask for hand search though and avoid the
X-ray machines, But the radiation in the planes is higher than the x-ray
machines.  I sprayed all my remedies though with the Australian Bush Flower
Essences combo called "Electro essence" as it protects from radiation for a
couple of weeks.  I also took the Australian Bush Flower Essences travel
essence that contains Mulla-Mulla   that protected me from the radiation and
all the other travel problems.  I also used Emergency Essence on the plane
as well.  I had drops and cream (another passenger that was sick also used
the Emergency Essence cream to help her pain, she was ill with the ear
pressure from the increased pressure, she had a cold)  Would not take drops
but welcomed the cream.

Fortunately my husband was with me and all my remedies and essences were in
5 ml mini dropper bottles and fit in the two plastic 1 litter maximum for
fluids the CS was in a 4 oz container for carry on, but had more in the
suitcase for use when in Australia.  The ones in the suit case were also
sprayed with the ABFE Electro.

Louise

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[mailto:4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:59 PM
To: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] CS and X-ray machines

Does anybody know if X-ray machines can do anything to CS?
I'm going to be on a plane in March and wanted to take some CS with
me.  Airports, these days, X-ray everything you carry on a plane.

Thanks,
Linda

#1370 From: "Linda" <chapel555@...>
Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:58 pm
Subject: CS and X-ray machines
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Does anybody know if X-ray machines can do anything to CS?
I'm going to be on a plane in March and wanted to take some CS with
me.  Airports, these days, X-ray everything you carry on a plane.

Thanks,
Linda

#1369 From: "Linda" <chapel555@...>
Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: repairing from Radiation Treatments
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OH,  sorry, I was commenting on Wanda's daughter's comment that
salt is salt.  There is a difference.

Linda


> > > > ....You reminded me to pick up a good Sea Salt...My daughter
> thinks
> > > salt is salt...
> >
> > Wanda,
> >
> > Regular salt is acidic and Sea Salt is allakline.
> > I switched to sea salt because my husband's system is very acidic.
> >
> > Linda
> >
> Hi Linda,
>
> Not sure which post you are responding of mine but I suggested the
> sea salt to help balance V's electrolites; and then ,in another
post,
> also suggested supplementing with iodine because sea salt is not
> ionized and must be supplemented.
>
> I think we all agree table salt is a no, no.
>
> Take care,
>
> Gail
>

#1368 From: "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...>
Date: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: repairing from Radiation Treatments
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--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <chapel555@...>
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> > > ....You reminded me to pick up a good Sea Salt...My daughter
thinks
> > salt is salt...
>
> Wanda,
>
> Regular salt is acidic and Sea Salt is allakline.
> I switched to sea salt because my husband's system is very acidic.
>
> Linda
>
Hi Linda,

Not sure which post you are responding of mine but I suggested the
sea salt to help balance V's electrolites; and then ,in another post,
also suggested supplementing with iodine because sea salt is not
ionized and must be supplemented.

I think we all agree table salt is a no, no.

Take care,

Gail

#1367 From: "Linda" <chapel555@...>
Date: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: repairing from Radiation Treatments
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> > ....You reminded me to pick up a good Sea Salt...My daughter thinks
> salt is salt...

Wanda,

Regular salt is acidic and Sea Salt is allakline.
I switched to sea salt because my husband's system is very acidic.

Linda

#1366 From: <louise46@...>
Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: repairing from Radiation Treatments ABFE
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The Australian Bush Flower Essences can help boost the immune system and
help detox from the Chemo and the Radiation (some of the mixtures like
Electro were used for the Chernobyl children for instance with good success)
http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf
with info on the combinations.
Australian Bush Flower Healing by Ian White has a good repertory that might
be useful.

Louise

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[mailto:4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wanda85929
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:28 PM
To: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Re: repairing from Radiation Treatments

Hello V,

Nice to see you post.

I don't have any personal experience with cancer, but I don't see
anybody else responding etiher.  Hopefully those who know more than I
will jump in here.

Regarding the CS, I don't think it will really do anything to help
build you up, but it might help prevent you from coming down with
whatever might be going around in your weaken state.

I think vitamin C would help to rebuild, and you could try some
probiotics for the colon.  Garden of Life has a really good product
called Primal Defense.

Colostrum would also help to rebuild your immune system I think.

There's also various products out there to replace your electrolites,
even simple sea salt would help with this.

Again, I don't have any personal experience with cancer, but my
cousin recently had breast cancer and seems to have recovered.  It
took a while, tho, and I can't honestly say what all see did to help
rebuild herself but it was various supplements, plus rest, lots of
rest.  She also did some messages and lymph draining I believe.
Don't quote me on the lymph draining, tho.

Take care,

Gail

-- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, vwolf21@... wrote:
>
> I have finished the treatments for the Uterine Cancer...(I call
it "the" because I do not wish to claim it in any way)...
> I have some harsh side effects from the radiation...so I must begin
my healing.
> Had to stop all vitamins, etc while receiving treatment...and that
included my Silver.
>
> Making a fresh batch of C.S. as I type.
>
> The radiation messed  up my whole digestive system...
> Caused constant food elimination...theres a name for this but I
forget it.
> However...this threw my Electrolites way off and spastic colon is
very hard on gall bladder, etc.
> In short, I need healing from the tip of my tongue to my Anus.
>
> Hoping the C.S. will do this.
>
> Has anyone had any experience healing themselves or others with
C.S. after radiation?
> Would appreciate any input.   Thanks   V.
>



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#1365 From: "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...>
Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:10 pm
Subject: Re: repairing from Radiation Treatments
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--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...>
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> >
> V, Sea salt doesn't have any iodine in it.  Pick up some kelp of
> lugol's to go with the salt.
>
> Gail
>
Infact, google iodine and cancer.  Very beneficial.  Gail

#1364 From: "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...>
Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: repairing from Radiation Treatments
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--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, vwolf21@... wrote:
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>
>
C
> ....You reminded me to pick up a good Sea Salt...My daughter thinks
salt is salt...I need a good gray with some Iodine.
>
>
V, Sea salt doesn't have any iodine in it.  Pick up some kelp of
lugol's to go with the salt.

Gail

#1363 From: vwolf21@...
Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:35 am
Subject: Re: Re: repairing from Radiation Treatments
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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:28:10 PM (GMT-0500) Auto-Detected
Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Re: repairing from Radiation Treatments

Hello V,
..*****.Hi Gail:) Thanks for the response.

Hope this gets thru...overnight Comcast has changed the entire site and it isn't working very well.


Nice to see you post.

I don't have any personal experience with cancer, but I don't see
anybody else responding etiher. Hopefully those who know more than I
will jump in here.

Regarding the CS, I don't think it will really do anything to help
build you up, but it might help prevent you from coming down with whatever might be going around in your weaken state.

*****.I have always had good experience with the silver healing topical...sores rashes etc...I am thinking it will help my over processed :( guts.

I think vitamin C would help to rebuild, and you could try some
probiotics for the colon. Garden of Life has a really good product called Primal Defense.

*********Right now I have to calm the spastic colon....so I am and have been eating a log of Stoneyfield Farm Yogurt...since the rays kill everything in its path...I figured the good bacteria took a hit also.

the Doc. had me stop all my supplements and I will start with Emergen C as soon as my guts will allow.

Colostrum would also help to rebuild your immune system I think.

There's also various products out there to replace your electrolites,
even simple sea salt would help with this.

....You reminded me to pick up a good Sea Salt...My daughter thinks salt is salt...I need a good gray with some Iodine.

Hope to get out today...will add this to my grocery list...thanks for reminding me.

Again, I don't have any personal experience with cancer, but my
cousin recently had breast cancer and seems to have recovered. It
took a while, tho, and I can't honestly say what all see did to help
rebuild herself but it was various supplements, plus rest, lots of
rest. She also did some messages and lymph draining I believe.
Don't quote me on the lymph draining, tho.

......Thanks again...I will make good use of your suggestions. V.

Take care,

Gail

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    #1362 From: "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...>
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:28 am
    Subject: Re: repairing from Radiation Treatments
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    Hello V,
    
    Nice to see you post.
    
    I don't have any personal experience with cancer, but I don't see
    anybody else responding etiher.  Hopefully those who know more than I
    will jump in here.
    
    Regarding the CS, I don't think it will really do anything to help
    build you up, but it might help prevent you from coming down with
    whatever might be going around in your weaken state.
    
    I think vitamin C would help to rebuild, and you could try some
    probiotics for the colon.  Garden of Life has a really good product
    called Primal Defense.
    
    Colostrum would also help to rebuild your immune system I think.
    
    There's also various products out there to replace your electrolites,
    even simple sea salt would help with this.
    
    Again, I don't have any personal experience with cancer, but my
    cousin recently had breast cancer and seems to have recovered.  It
    took a while, tho, and I can't honestly say what all see did to help
    rebuild herself but it was various supplements, plus rest, lots of
    rest.  She also did some messages and lymph draining I believe.
    Don't quote me on the lymph draining, tho.
    
    Take care,
    
    Gail
    
    -- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, vwolf21@... wrote:
    >
    > I have finished the treatments for the Uterine Cancer...(I call
    it "the" because I do not wish to claim it in any way)...
    > I have some harsh side effects from the radiation...so I must begin
    my healing.
    > Had to stop all vitamins, etc while receiving treatment...and that
    included my Silver.
    >
    > Making a fresh batch of C.S. as I type.
    >
    > The radiation messed  up my whole digestive system...
    > Caused constant food elimination...theres a name for this but I
    forget it.
    > However...this threw my Electrolites way off and spastic colon is
    very hard on gall bladder, etc.
    > In short, I need healing from the tip of my tongue to my Anus.
    >
    > Hoping the C.S. will do this.
    >
    > Has anyone had any experience healing themselves or others with
    C.S. after radiation?
    > Would appreciate any input.   Thanks   V.
    >

    #1361 From: vwolf21@...
    Date: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:05 pm
    Subject: repairing from Radiation Treatments
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    I have finished the treatments for the Uterine Cancer...(I call it "the" because I do not wish to claim it in any way)...
    I have some harsh side effects from the radiation...so I must begin my healing.
    Had to stop all vitamins, etc while receiving treatment...and that included my Silver.
     
    Making a fresh batch of C.S. as I type.
     
    The radiation messed  up my whole digestive system...
    Caused constant food elimination...theres a name for this but I forget it.
    However...this threw my Electrolites way off and spastic colon is very hard on gall bladder, etc.
    In short, I need healing from the tip of my tongue to my Anus.
     
    Hoping the C.S. will do this.
     
    Has anyone had any experience healing themselves or others with C.S. after radiation?
    Would appreciate any input.   Thanks   V.

    #1360 From: "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...>
    Date: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:08 pm
    Subject: Re: A testimonial....
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    Hi Dave & all,
    
    Thanks for the testimonial.
    
    My husband also had bypass surgery.  He didn't have any trouble but
    they did give him antibiotics and his leg/chest wound healed nicely.
    
    Why I mentioned this is because before he went in for the surgery
    (for years) he had some discoloration on a spot on his legs.  Doctors
    never really knew what it was and never did anything about it.  After
    the surgery, it cleared completely up so we came to the conclusion it
    was a mild infection that responded to the antibiotics.
    
    Diabetics need to be especially careful.
    
    Gail
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    >
    > " I had a non-healing open wound down my leg after cuts
    > from a bypass split open. Each time the dead tissue was removed the
    fresh
    > surface died within a day, and in November 2008 the surgeon told me
    my leg
    > had to go. Soon after a doctor removed the dead surface layer as
    one last
    > attempt I applied Colloidal silver gel from a Silverwell generator
    and the
    > wound on my leg stayed alive and gradually shrank and the skin
    closed,
    > over a two to three-month period.
    > I attribute the good results to four things that I did:
    > 1) I applied insulin to the surface to promote healing;
    > 2) The silver gel prevented infection while promoting healing;
    > 3) Seaweed dressing (Kaltostat) gave the cells a framework on which
    to
    > grow;
    > 4) Paper tape (micropore) pulled the sides of the wound together and
    > prevented movement that might have impaired the healing
    >
    > The colloidal silver generator and gelling agent were the
    > best investment I ever made.
    >
    > (From. GC. Wavell Heights, Brisbane, Australia)"
    >
    > What a shame the FDA and TGA (Aust) ban us from telling anyone
    about it.
    >
    > David
    >

    #1359 From: sourceoflove2004@...
    Date: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:07 am
    Subject: Re: A testimonial....
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    fantastic, thanks for sharing the good news...
     
    In a message dated 1/18/2009 12:06:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, mail@... writes:

    " I had a non-healing open wound down my leg after cuts
    from a bypass split open. Each time the dead tissue was removed the fresh
    surface died within a day, and in November 2008 the surgeon told me my leg
    had to go. Soon after a doctor removed the dead surface layer as one last
    attempt I applied Colloidal silver gel from a Silverwell generator and the
    wound on my leg stayed alive and gradually shrank and the skin closed,
    over a two to three-month period.
    I attribute the good results to four things that I did:
    1) I applied insulin to the surface to promote healing;
    2) The silver gel prevented infection while promoting healing;
    3) Seaweed dressing (Kaltostat) gave the cells a framework on which to
    grow;
    4) Paper tape (micropore) pulled the sides of the wound together and
    prevented movement that might have impaired the healing

    The colloidal silver generator and gelling agent were the
    best investment I ever made.

    (From. GC. Wavell Heights, Brisbane, Australia)"

    What a shame the FDA and TGA (Aust) ban us from telling anyone about it.

    David

     

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    #1358 From: "alchemysa" <mail@...>
    Date: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:06 am
    Subject: A testimonial....
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    " I had a non-healing open wound down my leg after cuts
    from a bypass split open. Each time the dead tissue was removed the fresh
    surface died within a day, and in November 2008 the surgeon told me my leg
    had to go. Soon after a doctor removed the dead surface layer as one last
    attempt I applied Colloidal silver gel from a Silverwell generator and the
    wound on my leg stayed alive and gradually shrank and the skin closed,
    over a two to three-month period.
    I attribute the good results to four things that I did:
    1) I applied insulin to the surface to promote healing;
    2) The silver gel prevented infection while promoting healing;
    3) Seaweed dressing (Kaltostat) gave the cells a framework on which to
    grow;
    4) Paper tape (micropore) pulled the sides of the wound together and
    prevented movement that might have impaired the healing
    
    The colloidal silver generator and gelling agent were the
    best investment I ever made.
    
    (From. GC. Wavell Heights, Brisbane, Australia)"
    
    What a shame the FDA and TGA (Aust) ban us from telling anyone about it.
    
    David

    #1357 From: "Carol" <carolroars@...>
    Date: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:36 pm
    Subject: Re: URGENT! The EPA wants to classify nanoparticles of silver as pesticides
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    Sorry, the link is too long for Yahoo.  Here it is again.
    
    http://tinyurl.com/a5dkqu
    
    
    
    > 1) Go to this link at the EPA website to file your protest:
    >
    > http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?
    > main=SubmitComment&o=09000064807cd9b1
    >
    >

    #1356 From: "Carol" <carolroars@...>
    Date: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:31 pm
    Subject: URGENT! The EPA wants to classify nanoparticles of silver as pesticides
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    My friend got this email yesterday from the Mesosilver people, about
    how the EPA is putting together a petition to classify silver
    particles as pesticides. Please go to the links and help stop this
    petition.
    
    Carol
    
    
    >>
    Urgent Message From Colloids for Life Regarding Mesosilver
    
    We recently became aware of a petition filed with the EPA seeking to
    place nanoparticles of silver in a category
    classifying it as a "pesticide". Should this petition be accepted it
    will place a burden on manufactures of colloidal
    silver, including Mesosilver, to conduct extensive and very costly
    testing to prove the products are not harmful. The
    cost of testing is likely too large a burden for most , if not all ,
    manufactures and may cause them to go out of
    business.
    
    Nanoparticles of silver occur naturally in the soil and water of the
    earth. It is not a harmful element and has been
    used widely as a supplement to immune function. The are is no
    convincing evidence that there is any potential of imminent
    harm to the public from the continued use of silver, topically or
    otherwise. Therefore there is no rational basis upon which to
    regulate silver as a "pesticide."
    
    To gain further understanding of just what is going on with this
    petition please follow this link:
    
    http://www.colloidalsilversecrets.blogspot.com/
    
    
    The bottom line is we need your help! The comment period for filing
    protests or comments expires January 20, 2009.
    
    We have various methods, noted below, for you to file comments and
    protests. We suggested emailing, faxing, and
    using the EPA website (use all possible methods).
    
    1) Go to this link at the EPA website to file your protest:
    
    http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?
    main=SubmitComment&o=09000064807cd9b1
    
    
    2) You can also fax or email your protests directly to the EPA
    Administrator, Mr. Stephen Johnson:
    
    Email: johnson.stephen@...
    
    Fax: 202-501-1450
    
    Be sure to reference Docket # EPA-HQ-OPP-2008-0650.
    
    3) We also located a page on the EPA web site that says
    comments can be sent by mail to the following address:
    
    Office of Pesticide Programs (OPP) Regulatory Public Docket
    (7502P), Docket # EPA-HQ-OPP-2008-0650.
    Environmental Protection Agency
    1200 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
    Washington, DC 20460-0001
    
    Sincerely,
    
    Collin Eidsness
    Managing Director
    Colloids for Life, LLC
    >>

    #1355 From: "alchemysa" <mail@...>
    Date: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:05 am
    Subject: I want my bailout money.
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    #1354 From: "Carol" <saffireskyes@...>
    Date: Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:59 am
    Subject: Re: Reality check for the idiots...
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    Just checking in..Glad to see ya'll are having fun!
    
    HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.  :)
    
    
    
    
    --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, sourceoflove2004@... wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > yupper that's the bottom line that's happening as we  speak...
    >
    > In a message dated 12/9/2008 6:43:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,
    > odecoyote@... writes:
    >
    > If you  DO buy those cars, you pay that bill.
    > If you DON'T buy those cars...you pay  that bill.
    >
    > Ode
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "An open heart is a healed heart"
    >

    #1353 From: "alchemysa" <mail@...>
    Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 11:12 pm
    Subject: Re: off topic and mandatory reading..<G>
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    --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <
    cncsmetal@...> wrote:
    
    "Your bias is plainly visible... "
    
    If you think I have an anti-american bias you couldn't be more wrong. I'm
    really looking forward to finally seeing the place in the next year or two.
    
    After 9/11 you had every right to defend yourself and even launch a pre-
    emptive strike against a genuine target, but why on earth you picked Iraq
    baffled me then and baffles me now.  Iraq had already been under 10 years of
    military and economic sanctions since the first Gulf War and was barely
    functional. It was a bad decision that only the stubborn can continue to
    justify.
    If 9/11 had happened in Australia we would probably have sought the
    formation of a genuine UN coalition to go into Afghanistan, just like the US
    did. There was virtually no opposition to that.
    
    "Government ... It has become a monster of self serving, greedy, parasitic
    proportions that will forever grow more so."
    
    Yep same over here, but fortunately we don't have much of an the arms
    industry - the most powerful lobby and biggest blood sucker of all.
    
    David
    
    
    
    >
    > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "alchemysa" <mail@>
    wrote:
    > >
    > > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <
    > > cncsmetal@> wrote:
    > >
    > >  "With the federal government bailing out the world..."
    > >
    > > Pardon? I'm not aware of any bailouts benefitting anyone outside
    > the US.
    > >
    > > Your problems are entirely self inflicted. The 'sub-prime' market
    > is blamed but
    > > personally I think the war in Iraq is what really did you in. Even
    > the US couldn't
    > > afford to go on pointlessly pouring money into a hole in the
    > desert. It's just
    > > gotta blow up in your face eventually. Lacking a Cold War' opponent
    > your
    > > arms industry convinced you of the need to invade Iraq and you fell
    > for it. A
    > > few trillion dollars later you are paying the price and don't have
    > much to show
    > > for it.
    > >
    > > An Arms Industry is a great money earner, but only if you are
    > selling the arms
    > > to other countries - not to yourself.
    > >
    > > David.
    >
    > Your bias is plainly visible. Makes one wonder just how this would
    > have played out if 9/11 had happened in your country. You read what I
    > wrote the way you wanted to read it. My `bailout of the world'
    > referenced the bleeping FACT that we pour money into problem areas
    > all over the world…to their and our detriment. I'm okay with helping
    > out but not with money since is always seems to end up in the wrong
    > hands.
    >
    > If you've read me at all you would know that I'm adamantly against
    > most of the policies of the US Government. The WAR ON TERRORISM (that
    > happens to be in Iraq right now) is NOT what did us in. It is simply
    > our unconstitutional, runaway…GOVERNMENT. It has become a monster of
    > self serving, greedy, parasitic proportions that will forever grow
    > more so. To credit our war on terrorism as being the final straw may
    > very well be accurate, but not for your reasons.
    >
    > I personally think the election of Obama can be likened to pouring
    > gas on the fire. Add the groupie mentality of our major news media
    > and we've seen the unbeatable combination that is, especially with
    > our gullibility of the uneducated masses and the immaturity of
    > liberal educated youth. Add the silence of the silent majority and
    > the problems appear to be insurmountable.
    >
    > Uncleben ..
    >

    #1352 From: "cncsmetal75708" <cncsmetal@...>
    Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 1:50 pm
    Subject: Re: off topic and mandatory reading..<G>
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    --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "alchemysa" <mail@...> wrote:
    >
    > --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <
    > cncsmetal@> wrote:
    >
    >  "With the federal government bailing out the world..."
    >
    > Pardon? I'm not aware of any bailouts benefitting anyone outside
    the US.
    >
    > Your problems are entirely self inflicted. The 'sub-prime' market
    is blamed but
    > personally I think the war in Iraq is what really did you in. Even
    the US couldn't
    > afford to go on pointlessly pouring money into a hole in the
    desert. It's just
    > gotta blow up in your face eventually. Lacking a Cold War' opponent
    your
    > arms industry convinced you of the need to invade Iraq and you fell
    for it. A
    > few trillion dollars later you are paying the price and don't have
    much to show
    > for it.
    >
    > An Arms Industry is a great money earner, but only if you are
    selling the arms
    > to other countries - not to yourself.
    >
    > David.
    
    Your bias is plainly visible. Makes one wonder just how this would
    have played out if 9/11 had happened in your country. You read what I
    wrote the way you wanted to read it. My `bailout of the world'
    referenced the bleeping FACT that we pour money into problem areas
    all over the world…to their and our detriment. I'm okay with helping
    out but not with money since is always seems to end up in the wrong
    hands.
    
    If you've read me at all you would know that I'm adamantly against
    most of the policies of the US Government. The WAR ON TERRORISM (that
    happens to be in Iraq right now) is NOT what did us in. It is simply
    our unconstitutional, runaway…GOVERNMENT. It has become a monster of
    self serving, greedy, parasitic proportions that will forever grow
    more so. To credit our war on terrorism as being the final straw may
    very well be accurate, but not for your reasons.
    
    I personally think the election of Obama can be likened to pouring
    gas on the fire. Add the groupie mentality of our major news media
    and we've seen the unbeatable combination that is, especially with
    our gullibility of the uneducated masses and the immaturity of
    liberal educated youth. Add the silence of the silent majority and
    the problems appear to be insurmountable.
    
    Uncleben ..

    #1351 From: "cncsmetal75708" <cncsmetal@...>
    Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 1:12 pm
    Subject: Re: off topic and mandatory reading..<G>
    cncsmetal75708
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    --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, sourceoflove2004@... wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > yup there would be plenty of money for everyone if we didn't have
    Iraq, that is it in a nutshell in my weee knowledge of it... a war
    based on  lies... and we pay for it... :o(
    >
    
    And I assume you blame Bush for this war on terrorism? Are you
    conveniently forgetting that Congress, both Democrats and Republicans
    had to, and did, vote for this war? And we are still over there
    because Congress has yet to have the votes to change that?
    
    Self-serving rhetoric is often contradicted by the actual vote of the
    author of this very same rhetoric. They say what they want you to
    hear and may very well vote totally different, hiding behind the fact
    that you'll probably never know just how they really voted..
    
    We are, however, going to pay for the poorly thought out fiscal
    policies of our self-serving leaders for decades. And I did say
    LEADERS. This would include the likes of the Pelosi, Franks, Reid,
    etc., types that permeate this debacle of a government. The Obama era
    is going to cost you and me much more than this war….and yes, they
    will also find a way to lay that on Bush also..
    
    A `wee bit of knowledge' is the telling comment here, ESPECIALLY if
    it is totally a product of your major news media.. An expansion of
    ones horizons is never a bad thing.
    
    Oh, lest I forget.. Your `plenty of money for everyone' hit a sore
    spot with me.. It is NOT the role of government to supply
    anyone/everyone with money. To do that they have to steal it from
    somebody else.. which is exactly what they are doing…
    
    Uncleben ..

    #1350 From: "alchemysa" <mail@...>
    Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 4:42 am
    Subject: Re: Links (Mercury Poising)
    alchemysa
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    http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C586629.html
    
    
    --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "Debra Anderson Loven"
    <dloven1@...> wrote:
    >
    > I am having trouble with the links. I can't seem to get them to go
    > anywhere..or they say the site does not exist. I was interested in the
    > Mercury poisoning and the Silver archives. I tried putting the link in
    > my browser too.
    > Any ideas?
    > Deb
    >

    #1348 From: sourceoflove2004@...
    Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 11:07 pm
    Subject: Re: Re: off topic and mandatory reading..<G>
    sourceoflove...
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    yup there would be plenty of money for everyone if we didn't have Iraq, that is it in a nutshell in my weee knowledge of it... a war based on lies... and we pay for it... :o(
     
    In a message dated 1/8/2009 9:58:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, mail@... writes:
    --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <
    cncsmetal@...> wrote:

    "With the federal government bailing out the world..."

    Pardon? I'm not aware of any bailouts benefitting anyone outside the US.

    Your problems are entirely self inflicted. The 'sub-prime' market is blamed but
    personally I think the war in Iraq is what really did you in. Even the US couldn't
    afford to go on pointlessly pouring money into a hole in the desert. It's just
    gotta blow up in your face eventually. Lacking a Cold War' opponent your
    arms industry convinced you of the need to invade Iraq and you fell for it. A
    few trillion dollars later you are paying the price and don't have much to show
    for it.

    An Arms Industry is a great money earner, but only if you are selling the arms
    to other countries - not to yourself.

    David.
     

    "The best way to predict the future
    is to create it"















    #1347 From: "alchemysa" <mail@...>
    Date: Fri Jan 9, 2009 3:58 am
    Subject: Re: off topic and mandatory reading..<G>
    alchemysa
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    --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "cncsmetal75708" <
    cncsmetal@...> wrote:
    
      "With the federal government bailing out the world..."
    
    Pardon? I'm not aware of any bailouts benefitting anyone outside the US.
    
    Your problems are entirely self inflicted. The 'sub-prime' market is blamed but
    personally I think the war in Iraq is what really did you in. Even the US
    couldn't
    afford to go on pointlessly pouring money into a hole in the desert. It's just
    gotta blow up in your face eventually. Lacking a Cold War' opponent your
    arms industry convinced you of the need to invade Iraq and you fell for it. A
    few trillion dollars later you are paying the price and don't have much to show
    for it.
    
    An Arms Industry is a great money earner, but only if you are selling the arms
    to other countries - not to yourself.
    
    David.
    
    
    >
    > One normally does not `plan to fail' when entering into a business
    > venture. The fear of failure is a major incentive not to do so
    > (planned failure). That was then. This is now. The government has
    > made us all liable for the business failures of the incompetent.
    >
    > They have set an awful precedent by given away trillions of our tax
    > dollars. Now their focus turns to raising taxes on just about
    > anything and everything. High fuel prices had our personal budgets
    > stretched to the max. Lower fuel prices gave us all a chance to
    > breathe again and that should be a good thing, but no. It seems that
    > the powers to be feels the need to raise taxes on fuel to make up for
    > loses caused by the downward slide in fuel prices.
    >
    > Where does this callous lack of respect for the competence of being
    > thrifty end?
    >
    > With the federal government bailing out the world and all that would
    > fail, we have lost the single principal incentive to strive for
    > success. We reward lack of common sense and gluttony at the expense
    > of those that practice good work ethics.
    >
    > This whole idea of the government as our business partner, the `end
    > all' of problem solvers and the banker with free money for world
    > disasters is proof of American political idiocy.
    >
    > Term limits down to the lowest level of elected position would work
    > wonders for the greed and self-serving pork laden politics as we know
    > them today. But, as in the ease of voting themselves hidden and
    > blatant raises they are also in the business of the status quo; using
    > massive voter payoffs disguised as social programs.
    >
    > The silent majority deserves to be indicted also, for it has had
    > laryngitis so long it is now permanent, the tiny squeak of a few
    > going unheard over the hum of government printing presses making our
    > hard earned dollars worth less with each freshly printed ream of
    > crisp new worthless American paper money.
    >
    > Uncleben ..
    >

    #1346 From: "Alex Stanley" <j_alexander_stanley@...>
    Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 6:20 pm
    Subject: Re: Links
    j_alexander_...
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    --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "Debra Anderson Loven"
    <dloven1@...> wrote:
    >
    > I am having trouble with the links. I can't seem to get them to go
    > anywhere..or they say the site does not exist. I was interested in
    > the Mercury poisoning and the Silver archives. I tried putting the
    > link in my browser too.
    
    The silver archives are the old colloidal silver Yahoo group, which
    had been abandoned by its owner many years ago. Not too long ago,
    Yahoo finally deleted it. The mercury poisoning link takes me to Yahoo
    mail, so the guy who posted the link was probably posting a link to
    something in his own inbox. Posting a link to something in a webmail
    inbox won't work, because no one but the inbox's owner has access to
    the inbox's contents.

    #1345 From: "Debra Anderson Loven" <dloven1@...>
    Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 5:28 pm
    Subject: Links
    dloven1
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    I am having trouble with the links. I can't seem to get them to go
    anywhere..or they say the site does not exist. I was interested in the
    Mercury poisoning and the Silver archives. I tried putting the link in
    my browser too.
    Any ideas?
    Deb

    #1344 From: "cncsmetal75708" <cncsmetal@...>
    Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 12:39 pm
    Subject: off topic and mandatory reading..<G>
    cncsmetal75708
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    One normally does not `plan to fail' when entering into a business
    venture. The fear of failure is a major incentive not to do so
    (planned failure). That was then. This is now. The government has
    made us all liable for the business failures of the incompetent.
    
    They have set an awful precedent by given away trillions of our tax
    dollars. Now their focus turns to raising taxes on just about
    anything and everything. High fuel prices had our personal budgets
    stretched to the max. Lower fuel prices gave us all a chance to
    breathe again and that should be a good thing, but no. It seems that
    the powers to be feels the need to raise taxes on fuel to make up for
    loses caused by the downward slide in fuel prices.
    
    Where does this callous lack of respect for the competence of being
    thrifty end?
    
    With the federal government bailing out the world and all that would
    fail, we have lost the single principal incentive to strive for
    success. We reward lack of common sense and gluttony at the expense
    of those that practice good work ethics.
    
    This whole idea of the government as our business partner, the `end
    all' of problem solvers and the banker with free money for world
    disasters is proof of American political idiocy.
    
    Term limits down to the lowest level of elected position would work
    wonders for the greed and self-serving pork laden politics as we know
    them today. But, as in the ease of voting themselves hidden and
    blatant raises they are also in the business of the status quo; using
    massive voter payoffs disguised as social programs.
    
    The silent majority deserves to be indicted also, for it has had
    laryngitis so long it is now permanent, the tiny squeak of a few
    going unheard over the hum of government printing presses making our
    hard earned dollars worth less with each freshly printed ream of
    crisp new worthless American paper money.
    
    Uncleben ..

    #1343 From: "Louise46" <louise46@...>
    Date: Thu Jan 8, 2009 5:55 am
    Subject: RE: I haven't seen any posts this year
    harmonyheal
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    I think we are all recovering!!
    
    Louise
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com
    [mailto:4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Footitt
    Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:19 PM
    To: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] I haven't seen any posts this year
    
    I was wondering if this forum is still active.

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