High ppm CS can and does cause argyria. But it depends what you mean by
'high' and what you call 'colloidal silver'. A glass of grey/black junk made
with
tap water could have a ppm in the 1000's. I wouldn't touch it, but some
Illinformed people have drunk gallons of it and given themselves argyria. Like
it or not, it is still called 'colloidal silver'. But to me 'high ppm CS' is
about 20
ppm made with distilled water. As long as its nice and clear you can drink as
much as you like without fear.

Its pointless arguing about Bonaid. Elder believes that water has a
'holographic memory'... a lovely idea, but completely imaginary, unproven
and unmeasurable. Most of the key points in the Bonaid sales pitch are
factually wrong. The rest are just wishful thinking.

David



--- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com, "Nikki Cowan" <
nikkicowan@...> wrote:
>
> No, Elder, it is not personal, it is just a matter of the veracity of the
> claims you are making. Why do you think that EIS at any ppm would turn
> you grey? There has been no cases of it to my knowledge. What do you
mean
> by taking risks? Are you referring to EIS here? What would be the later
> payment.? This is an excellent venue to discuss your product as it is
> peopled by members who have a great knowledge of the silver process. If
> yours is a good thing, we want to know more about it and the process.
When
> you make statements in a general list about EIS requiring high ppm to be
> effective (it does not) or make references to Arygeria it is doing a
> disservice to people because these are not the facts and it might turn
> people away from a great health benefit at an affordable price. I am not
> saying your product is snake oil, I just would like to know more about it
> and to know what you reference you statements about EIS from.
>
>
>
> Nikki
>
>
>
>
>
> Nikki,
>
>
>
> Is there a personal thing going on here?Are you intentionally missing the
> difference in the terms being used, or is it just hasty mistakes? Your
> having invited me here to this group almost seems like an ambush. But I'm
> not offended or afraid, being armed with the truth. I just don't have time
> to waste trying to convince others the truth of what I said and for
> nonsense.
>
>
>
> I never said, as you said I said, that EIS makes you turn grey (look at the
> recent messages where you're discussing me negatively).
>
>
>
> I never said CS turns one grey. I said HIGH PPM will turn one grey, and
that
> presupposed usage over a length of time.
>
>
>
> And finally, when it comes to health and prevention, you get what you pay
> for. You are welcome to take all the risks that you please, and save a few
> bucks for awhile (one eventually pays later). When it comes to my life and
> my counsel to others, I will tell them the facts and my experience, and they
> can decide for themselves.
>
>
>
> Have fun!
>
> Elder
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Nikki <mailto:nikkicowan@...> Cowan
>
> To: 4COLLOIDALSILVER@ <
mailto:4COLLOIDALSILVER@yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:06 PM
>
> Subject: RE: [4COLLOIDALSILVER] Re: Bionaid
>
>
>
> Hi Elder,
>
> Here is the post where you mentioned CS turning you grey: And if it is
> costing more than about eighty cents a gallon it sure is taking away from
my
> pocketbook.
>
> Have a happy one.
>
> Nikki
>
> Thanks Nikki,
>
> I hope its OK to state that Divine Intervention has stepped in regarding
> silver solutions. Some truely un-ashamed people have been providing 2
> products for awhile now...The Water and BIONAID. BIONAID is the silver
> product, but its not "colloidal". Colloidal silver must be used at very high
> ppm to have sufficient effect. BIONAID does not, as it is a covalently
> bonded particle that has an indefinate shelf-life, and never goes bad or
> loses strength. The valence energy of the silver particle is transmitted
> through millions of bonded oxygen atoms and their electrons - that's the
> key. No need for high ppm silver anymore, and turning grey.
>
> Now, the virtual photon laser technology of The Water has been combined
with
> the 20 year-old BIONAID technology. The super-concentrated substrate
(used
> to make The Water concentrate) is put into the reactor that makes
BIONAID.
> The first test was very amazing - the measuring apparatus on the reactor
> showed a stable and steady reaction never seen before in 20 years of
making
> the bionic particle silver solution. The BIONAID's effectiveness has been
> increased by 10,000%!
>
> Now, I'm happy to announce that we have the best water in the world, and
its
> a concentrate that you can add to water that changes the holographic
memory
> of the water (great for adding to wild-water when camping or to turn malaria
> infested water into drinkable water in 10 minutes). We have a super
> hydrating water with an indefinate shelf-life and no concerns about
> spoilage, and its also an antibiotic. It kills strep, malaria and all
> gram-negative, anerobic mirco-organisms.
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
> I need to address comments below. I don't believe EIS will turn one
> grey, and never said it would.
>
> I do not get a fattened wallet from making BIONAID available to others,
> as I barely break even from my endeavor. Alot goes into making BIONAID.
> The reactor is not cheap. But considering the superior quality of the
> product and peace of mind it brings me about addressing the worst case
> scenarios with weaponized pathogens, I feel very good to be the guy
> that has brought the new BIONAID to the world. So, the "fattened
> wallet" comment was spurious at best, and stated without proper
> investigation. Nikki, it is not wise to judge a matter before you
> investigate it. I'm not offended in the least though.
>
> Have fun!
> Elder
> 706 937 7379
> elder7@rangeguide. <mailto:elder7%40rangeguide.net> net
>
> --- In 4COLLOIDALSILVER@ <
mailto:4COLLOIDALSILVER%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "Nikki Cowan" <nikkicowan@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I would like to hear perhaps David's input-and any others-on this
> > stuff. I am just sticking to the EIS myself. Works great and
> enriches ME
> > as opposed to making me dependent on fattening someone else's
> pocketbook.
> > Besides, this guy believes that the only way EIS can do any good is
> at very
> > high ppm and he also believes that it will turn you grey, so I am
> pretty
> > sure that his science isn't all that, either.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nikki
>
>
> _____
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