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Re: [11q_disorders] behavior problems

We live in North Central Arkansas and the rain has started.It is suppose to rain for the rest of the week and we will get up to 10 inches of rain. Grace is dearly scared of being caught when there is  thunder and lightning . She was outside in her electric wheelchair when a sudden storm came in  and she got stuck on a rock with lightning  hitting way to close. Since then if it is raining  she won't go outside . So she is home for the week.
 It has been a long weekend here and she can demand so much time .
I am glad you have some sort of relief.  There is a chance the roads will flood around us , so I have made the 23 mile drive to townt o make sure we were stocked up on some stuff.I can alot threw the spring and summer so canned goods aren't a problem. I hate to shop anyway.
 Communication can be a big problem with these kids .Behavior has always been a BIG one with us. I have to say now that  we have tried to figure out when she is in pain this helps.She doesn't say she hurts she just gets REAL cranky, Yes she gets angry too when we don't know what she is saying.We have a communication board, but she seems to jam it all the time.Maybe if she had one  most of her life it would have  worked. They have some now that are small and easily transported.ICAN here lets people try them before buying one. Grace's was almost $6,000. We have waiver and VA coverage since she has spina bifida too and her dad was in Vietnam . They cover alot of what medicaid doesn't.
 Let me know if I can help in any way.  Even thou Grace is 33 it is nice to see there is people out there to talk to .
Have a great week Peggy


--- On Mon, 9/1/08, MahlonGreene&SherryDimmick <greene@...> wrote:
From: MahlonGreene&SherryDimmick <greene@...>
Subject: Re: [11q_disorders] behavior problems
To: 11q_disorders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 11:51 PM

Hi Peggy -

Thank you for sharing so much about Grace. We live in Alaska - and are on a Medicaid waiver waitlist with approximately 1000 other people in the State  with developmental disabilities. The State gives 100 people/year a waiver, based on their determination of current or pending crisis. We are given a survey yearly to determine how many points we have to qualify for the next year's distribution. Since this is Erik's last year in school, it should give him an edge - but on the other hand I'm not one to imply that he is going to be  homeless or that his health and welfare is going to be compromised if  he doesn't get a waiver. He has a grant that provides 20 hours/week respite/day hab/residential support that we are very grateful for and for the first time in years, we have enough staff to use the 20 hours and they provide Erik with lots of variety of activities in the community. His staff truly enjoy him and he is always very pleasant and appropriate with them. 

This is an interesting discussion on behaviors. It's obviously a huge issue for many. We know lots of DD families and the behaviors we see with our 11q kiddos are not unique! There do not seem to be any experts,  at least in my area - the tendency is to up doses and add drugs. For that reason, I haven't pursued therapy - it's strictly meds management with no behavior management plans.

It has been a long weekend, and I am looking forward to Erik's smiling face from the bus window as  he leaves for school in the morning!

Sherry


On Aug 31, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Peggy St.Clair wrote:


I don't know where you live but contact your developemental disabilites organizton and see what programs they have for adults.
Grace goes to a center for the adults  during the day then I have medicaid waiver that pays for staff to help 8 hours a day and weekends.
Never feel bad either if you look into a group home and find this is a great place for him. No one will think you a bad parent. Remember we aren't getting any younger and we have even made out plans in case soemthign happens to us who takes care of her.
We had Grace live in her own home  for a little over a yr. Waiver paid for 24 hour staff. But finding good staff was such a headache because no one wanted to deal with her behaviors and she also is in a wheelchair and needs diapers and such. So she is home and then I am sure she gets fed etc. Our staff that is paid is family members.  If you would like help in finding help with Eric as an adult let me know where you live  and I will see what I can find for you.I loved not being tied down all the time when she didn't live at home.But I know this can't be so we do the best we can.Right now she has some major health  issues I deal with since I am a nurse and it keeps her out of the hospital .
But I have worked as a case cordinator for the state of Arkansas for the disabled so I can usually find a main source that will direct in the right direction.
Have  a wonderful holiday. We are at home and we just finished re decoratoing Grace room
Peggy

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, MahlonGreene&SherryDimmick<greene@mtaonline. net> wrote:
From: MahlonGreene&SherryDimmick <greene@mtaonline. net>
Subject: Re: [11q_disorders] behavior problems
To: 11q_disorders@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 1:55 PM

Hi Linzee -

We had success with methylphenidate (generic Ritalin) for many years that helped with both behaviors and attention. When Erik started getting headaches 3-4 year ago, we changed to Adderall XR 15mg - a drug that had NOT been successful when he was about 12 years old - and he is doing pretty good with it  now. Erik is 21. 

I wish there were programs that could help families with developmentally disabled children enjoy each other socially and appropriately. Erik does great at school and with providers that relieve me occasionally. I won't even take him to social events or shopping anymore because of the way he acts - and at 132 pounds he's too big to herd out the door anymore. So - the Adderall takes the edge off a little bit at home but not enough to do anything else. As I write this I see that the Adderall is not a fix all, just a bandaid and perhaps I need to be more aggressive in finding some help!

Sherry
Erik's mom

On Aug 30, 2008, at 1:07 PM, linzee_carroll wrote:

I need some suggestions for controlling behaviors in 11q kids. Brayden 
is just getting very hard to control. When he is at home, he just seems 
to be frustrated the whole time and he takes it out on his little 
sister--sitting on her, pinching her, biting her, etc. Zach is also 
having some issues, but his aren't all the time like Brayden's seem to 
be. Neither of them have problems at school, but I think that Brayden 
does better there because he always has someone who can give him 100% 
attention. We have tried several ADHD medications with no help with 
his attention, but I have heard that sometimes they can help with both 
attention and behaviors. The ones he has tried have done nothing for 
either attention or behavior. If anyone has had any successes, please 
let me know. If I let him out of my sight these days, someone gets 
hurt. 








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I need some suggestions for controlling behaviors in 11q kids. Brayden is just getting very hard to control. When he is at home, he just seems to be...
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Caitlyn has behavioural problems (biting and scratching to tell us no) and we tried a couple of meds and abilify seems to be working for her.  Not to say that...
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Unfortantly behavior is a big part of 11q-. Resperidal helps with  outbursts as does a seizure med Depakote. Clonidine works to calm and helps let them...
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Faith is also lashing out with the biting and pinching but it seems to be more directed to Jana and I right now and very thankful it doesn't seem to be this...
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It is so nice to see there is meds now that can help you make it with these angles. When Grace was young the Dr gave me a script for benadryl and said good...
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Hope you get to go home soon.We are getting the rain from the hurricane here int he Ozarks. We exspect to get about 7-10 inches. Now they say there is another...
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Linzee, I can not speak in terms of medications, but know that even with meds you need?the support of a behavior plan.? I?can give some general?advice as a...
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Linzee and all, I can relate to all the behavior issues that have been mentioned. I have not taken Cody to the doctor regarding his behaviors only because I...
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Hi Linzee - We had success with methylphenidate (generic Ritalin) for many years that helped with both behaviors and attention. When Erik started getting...
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I don't know where you live but contact your developemental disabilites organizton and see what programs they have for adults. Grace goes to a center for the...
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Hi everyone, I am quite shocked to see people's response in the USA is to use medication to control challenging behaviour. Here in the UK medication would be a...
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Thank you so much for all of your suggestions! It's nice to know that I'm not alone in this. The medications are not typically used for behavior problems, but...
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Linzee, Have you searched your area for a behavior analyst? They could possibly be a huge help in this matter?! We have them here in Fl. and they come into...
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Hi Peggy - Thank you for sharing so much about Grace. We live in Alaska - and are on a Medicaid waiver waitlist with approximately 1000 other people in the...
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glad you made it home. Today was nice, no rain and cooler; We started closing in our porch. It will be  so nice. Grace went to her aunts for the weekend. This...
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