you can take a shoothing baking soda in water sitz bath. they have them
at any medical supply house and  you just put them on the toilet seat.
you can take the medication over the counter to bring the hemorrhoids
down.  what someone told me was when they got over the episode an the
hemorrhoids  went down they would after each bowel movement gently put
the hemorrhoids back in so that they didnt get inflamed.   use the sitz
bath on the tolet with even just warm water after every bowel movement
and hopefully you will be ok. other then removing them.

well i am still lost here on the rectal bleeding. yes y ou could have
thrombosed hemorrhoids but you could also have cancer or just krohs
disease or diverticulitis ( leads to cancer sometimes) . what does your
doctor say? cancer can also go on for about 7 or 8 years as colon cancer
and you can still be cured. i know of two people in the 70 age group.
the one man had it for 8 years he and the doctor agreed on and he had to
go for the radiation treatments etc but he is fine --5 years later. he
is now about 77. so you see colon cancer is very slow growing. one of
easiest ca to cure but as you say some die from it also. it just depends
what your fate is there. but you should be tested for this and for
diverticulitus etc.  maybe it is nothing also.  those hemorrhoids well
there is laser treatment to get rid of them so now you have that choice
. why not get the swelling under control and have them removed  by
laser.    today there are much more options open to you then there were
even 15 years ago.   -----dont put if off or it can cost you  your life.

--- In 000-Fear-Of-Doctors@y..., SD <suedarnell@h...> wrote:
> Symptoms?

Rectal bleeding for the past five years with large swelling around
the opening - probably hemorrhoids and not corectal cancer because of
my age.

Most recently, colicky cramps coming every few days (sometimes a few
weeks apart) in my lower mid to right intestines.  These cramps
seemed to have started about the time I started trying to come up
with enough courage to go see a doctor about the bleeding.  They are
probably a result of gas because I worry and probably am swollowing
air as I get agitated thinking cancer due to the bleeding.

If I am right and its a Thrombosed <sp> hemorrhoids, it wont go away
with self treatment?  I am eating correctly....  If it's something
other than that - well....the thought does scare me......

Cut & Paste
From:  wbenoist@h...
Date:  Wed Jun 13, 2001  6:50 am
Subject:  I am new


Hello all....

Sitting here this morning going through the Yahoo Search engine with
the words "Fear of Doctors" and found this list.  Talk about a
bullseye, huh?

Anyways, I've read some of the postings and I am pretty much in the
same boat.  I am hoping I can give as well as take some support from
here.

A little about myself.  I'm 42 years old and have a terrible fear of
anything medically related.  I've done counseling, drugs (Zoloft)
biofeedback, meditation but still have not been able to overcome my
fear enough to bring myself to see a doctor.  I know enough that its
a matter of repetitive exposure, but unlike driving to a bridge (or
some fear like this) repetitve exposure to doctors doesnt work that
way.  For one, I don't even know how to approach one and say "can I
come sit in your waiting room, office for 15 minutes a week - and
maybe in six weeks you could let me touch your stetescope" - LOL!!!

Seriously, I wish I could handle this problem.  I've got some medical
concerns now that are really scaring me.  And, I think I am in a
cycle - the more anxiety I have, the worst I feel - swallowing air,
cramps, IBS, etc....

Anyways - this is my *HI*.

Bil



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>bill, could you please repeat your posting as i didnt get it on what is
>wrong with you or why you are posting so i can see if i can help.
>thanks.
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bill, could you please repeat your posting as i didnt get it on what is
wrong with you or why you are posting so i can see if i can help.
thanks.

Bill Benoist wrote:

Well, I don't know about diagnosing myself - I think I am doing too much of
that already.  As for the diet, I do have that going for me.  Been eating
vegatarian since January.  Hummmmmm - I wonder if that means I'm a squash???
 
 

Sheez, I only go if I have to.
How about taking an anatomy and physiology course in our local Community
college, and diagnosing yourself?
Do you have a healthy diet?
We are what we eat, I think.
-Sue D.
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Well, I don't know about diagnosing myself - I think I am doing too much of
that already.  As for the diet, I do have that going for me.  Been eating
vegatarian since January.  Hummmmmm - I wonder if that means I'm a squash???



Sheez, I only go if I have to.
How about taking an anatomy and physiology course in our local Community
college, and diagnosing yourself?
Do you have a healthy diet?
We are what we eat, I think.
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wbenoist@... wrote:

Hello all....

Sitting here this morning going through the Yahoo Search engine with
the words "Fear of Doctors" and found this list.  Talk about a
bullseye, huh?

Anyways, I've read some of the postings and I am pretty much in the
same boat.  I am hoping I can give as well as take some support from
here.

A little about myself.  I'm 42 years old and have a terrible fear of
anything medically related.  I've done counseling, drugs (Zoloft)
biofeedback, meditation but still have not been able to overcome my
fear enough to bring myself to see a doctor.  I know enough that its
a matter of repetitive exposure, but unlike driving to a bridge (or
some fear like this) repetitve exposure to doctors doesnt work that
way.  For one, I don't even know how to approach one and say "can I
come sit in your waiting room, office for 15 minutes a week - and
maybe in six weeks you could let me touch your stetescope" - LOL!!!

Seriously, I wish I could handle this problem.  I've got some medical
concerns now that are really scaring me.  And, I think I am in a
cycle - the more anxiety I have, the worst I feel - swallowing air,
cramps, IBS, etc....

Anyways - this is my *HI*.

Bill
 

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Hello all....

Sitting here this morning going through the Yahoo Search engine with
the words "Fear of Doctors" and found this list.  Talk about a
bullseye, huh?

Anyways, I've read some of the postings and I am pretty much in the
same boat.  I am hoping I can give as well as take some support from
here.

A little about myself.  I'm 42 years old and have a terrible fear of
anything medically related.  I've done counseling, drugs (Zoloft)
biofeedback, meditation but still have not been able to overcome my
fear enough to bring myself to see a doctor.  I know enough that its
a matter of repetitive exposure, but unlike driving to a bridge (or
some fear like this) repetitve exposure to doctors doesnt work that
way.  For one, I don't even know how to approach one and say "can I
come sit in your waiting room, office for 15 minutes a week - and
maybe in six weeks you could let me touch your stetescope" - LOL!!!

Seriously, I wish I could handle this problem.  I've got some medical
concerns now that are really scaring me.  And, I think I am in a
cycle - the more anxiety I have, the worst I feel - swallowing air,
cramps, IBS, etc....

Anyways - this is my *HI*.

Bill

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Food for thought?

Darn, did I miss the part about the blood pressure?
OMG, have I been feisty lately.
Blood pressure is REALLY serious.
If you eat chips or pretzels, brush or pick as much salt off as you
can.
Little (or no) salt, dude!
NO BACON!
What else, cut smoking in half!
Cut HAM (that salty kind), down to once a month, tops!
And ya know what?
If you  are on BP meds, gas is SO much safer. You conscious the whole
time. Just feeling really good.
IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT, IN A DENTIST CHAIR.
GUY, ON A PHOBIC SCALE OF 1-10,  I'M  "11".
I kid you not.
But my BP is way low.
I am almost a vegetarian.
It is animal fat that clogs arteries.
Anything solid at you room temperature, clogs you.
Hey, if you eat fish instead of meat, you will lower you BP, all by
itself.
Go REALLY EASY on salt, right now, dude, till the weight goes down.
Always cut the fat off of meat, before you cook it, if you have that
opportunity.
Fish makes you loose weight and lowers blood pressure.
Plus, fish, veggies, and rice is brain food.
----Sue
P.S. Why not try "one filling" on gas?
And raise your hand signals, if you are not comfortable.
You won't even feel the lidocaine prick, dude.
And the lower teeth, they can use the nerve block in your jaw.
But you can ask that they don't. I think it has side effects, (like jaw
damage TMJ).
All the procedures you are talking about are VERY minor, dude.
I promise no one anything. But I promise you will love the gas.
You will be conscious. (And if anybody says a joke, watch out.)
Once I was on the stuff, and dentist background music was on. (NOw ya
gotta realize, I hate most Elvis music).
Give Elton, but not Elvis.
Well, the music sounded so divine on the gas, that I decided that Elvis
was God.
Can I ask you something weird? I know some people who are heavy drinkers
that have high blood pressure.
Do you drink much?
Because if you do, I have a good thing to tell you.
(shut up, Jen!)
just kidding.... but the gas is great.. Promise!
Trust must be built, little by little.
I actually look forward to gas.
They put you on it, wait ten minutes, cone back and you are oblivious.
They use lidocaine too, but your hands are tingly numb, and you feel no
pain.
-Sue (major dental phobic) (13 years is nothing!)



jendiane@... wrote:

> dazzler about your blood pressure . is over 150 over 90 the doctore
> will
> want to put you on a blood pressure pill. he can give you one that is
> considered mild and see how you do on it.  now as you know blood
> pressures being high are silent killers.  so to go on a mild bp pill
> would be what you will need. you dont want to have a stroke esp with
> kids to look after.   now as far as your weight if you got that down
> ,your bp would go way down and maybe normal is all. so then you would
> not need the pill.you may not be able to do this so then the pill is
> there for you. it really is not that bad to take the one pill a day to
>
> avoid a stroke and if you are to diet then it will help you in
> between.
> as long as you are going to the doctors , dont worry it wont be that
> bad. he is just looking out for your interest there and trying to help
>
> avoid a stroke for you .  we all get nervous and mostly because they
> keep you waiting.  remember you are the customer. you have the upper
> hand . you just ask him to give you a mild one to start out with and
> go
> from there. no need to fear the doctor for that. if your bp is really
> high he may have to go with a little stronger one to get it down.
> --as for the dentist well if you are afraid  and he knows this  he
> will
> try to discuss what is best for you as he does the work. i imagine he
> is
> going to do both fillings at the same time etc . as for the crown i
> am
> not sure you need it and it cant be filled by someone.  but either way
>
> you wont know what is being done.  be sure you go to the doctor first
> and get the go ahead for the procedure as if you have hight bp you
> will
> need to get regulated on the bp pill before the procedure and then you
>
> should be fine.  dr. first . tell him of the suggested procedure and
> ask
> if the iv or the gas would be the better for you by the dentist.   i
> hate to go also as we all do but it is part of life and we have to
> face
> up to it.  remember there are people far worse off then you and this
> helps you get through it.  but put your mind at ease with the doctors
> help of what is right and wrong for you as he will check you out
> before
> hand.
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dazzler about your blood pressure . is over 150 over 90 the doctore will
want to put you on a blood pressure pill. he can give you one that is
considered mild and see how you do on it.  now as you know blood
pressures being high are silent killers.  so to go on a mild bp pill
would be what you will need. you dont want to have a stroke esp with
kids to look after.   now as far as your weight if you got that down
,your bp would go way down and maybe normal is all. so then you would
not need the pill.you may not be able to do this so then the pill is
there for you. it really is not that bad to take the one pill a day to
avoid a stroke and if you are to diet then it will help you in between.
as long as you are going to the doctors , dont worry it wont be that
bad. he is just looking out for your interest there and trying to help
avoid a stroke for you .  we all get nervous and mostly because they
keep you waiting.  remember you are the customer. you have the upper
hand . you just ask him to give you a mild one to start out with and go
from there. no need to fear the doctor for that. if your bp is really
high he may have to go with a little stronger one to get it down.
--as for the dentist well if you are afraid  and he knows this  he  will
try to discuss what is best for you as he does the work. i imagine he is
going to do both fillings at the same time etc . as for the crown i  am
not sure you need it and it cant be filled by someone.  but either way
you wont know what is being done.  be sure you go to the doctor first
and get the go ahead for the procedure as if you have hight bp you will
need to get regulated on the bp pill before the procedure and then you
should be fine.  dr. first . tell him of the suggested procedure and ask
if the iv or the gas would be the better for you by the dentist.   i
hate to go also as we all do but it is part of life and we have to face
up to it.  remember there are people far worse off then you and this
helps you get through it.  but put your mind at ease with the doctors
help of what is right and wrong for you as he will check you out before
hand.

I don't go, or take my kids unless we are sick and do not have the right
meds.
Or emergency that I cannot handle.
My kids can go, whenever they want, but I never want to go so I do not.
Checkups are for wabbits.

The dentist? The torturer?
How come this a-hole didn't try laughing gas on you.
Don't go.
He is an a-hole
IV sucks.
That is my experience, anyway.
But nitrous oxide it THE BEST    !
I'd cancel and find a nitrous doc.
I'd get my X-rays and get out of there. IV is over kill He sounds like
Dr. Frankenstein.
-Sue Darnell

Dazzler1@... wrote:

> It's so nice to find others who dread going to the doctor as much as
> I do.  I find it so difficult to discuss personal things with
> somebody I consider a stranger.  My blood pressure is always sky high
> when it's measured in his office but at home, it's perfectly fine.  I
> guess I feel like I am being judged and get very embarrassed.  Even
> worse is going to a dentist which happened for the first time in 16
> years last week.  I need a couple of fillings, a crown and a good
> clean and scrape...ugh.  He wants to do it under IV sedation because
> I am so nervous but I am scared of not being able to breath or
> having PVC's while being sedated.
>
> I have to go to the doctor tomorrow and I know he's going to go on
> about my weight and blood pressure and why I didn't go back 3 months
> after my last visit. It's been nearly 4 years.  I am just about in
> tears now just thinking about my appointment.  I even hate taking my
> kids to the doctor and am so glad my 2 eldest can go on their own now.
>
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It's so nice to find others who dread going to the doctor as much as
I do.  I find it so difficult to discuss personal things with
somebody I consider a stranger.  My blood pressure is always sky high
when it's measured in his office but at home, it's perfectly fine.  I
guess I feel like I am being judged and get very embarrassed.  Even
worse is going to a dentist which happened for the first time in 16
years last week.  I need a couple of fillings, a crown and a good
clean and scrape...ugh.  He wants to do it under IV sedation because
I am so nervous but I am scared of not being able to breath or
having PVC's while being sedated.

I have to go to the doctor tomorrow and I know he's going to go on
about my weight and blood pressure and why I didn't go back 3 months
after my last visit. It's been nearly 4 years.  I am just about in
tears now just thinking about my appointment.  I even hate taking my
kids to the doctor and am so glad my 2 eldest can go on their own now.

Why should we have to be untruthful about when last
various "tests" were though?  I mean, we are the ones
paying their salaries.

It's rather strange...some days I feel so "brave" and
think I could go in and stand up to the doctor and say
exactly what's on my mind and stand my ground.  Other
days, I feel just frightened and think I could not
even go at all.

Fortunately, I am generally of "good health"--always
have been--but I know there are "yearly exams" that
people are sort of coaxed into believing they "HAVE"
to have!  I am way guilty of skipping those.


Sue, I have on one occasion gone into the ER with an
ankle injury just to find I was faced with lots of
questions about "when was your last period" (For an
ANKLE injury!).  Apparently, they did not want to
X-Ray me if there were any chances I may be pregnant.
So the Rad-Technician asked me "is there any chance
you are pregnant?" and when I answered with "no" she
asked me again "Are you sure?"  HA!   I told her of
*COURSE* I was sure.  I was not even sexually active.


egads....

Alena


--- SD <suedarnell@...> wrote:
> The other thing, is, if they ask if when your last
> period was, say, last
> week.
> (or they assume you are pregnant and won't treat
> you). Plus you will in
> for a pregnancy exam.
> (what  idiots! )
> And if they ask when your last "pap" was and
> "physical", "mammogram", or
> "pelvic", say 6 weeks ago.
> Or they will stick everything they can, into every
> hole you have and
> take pictures of it.
> Also dental.
> Sh-t.
> Next thing ya know they will be requiring yearly
> head x-rays.
> (That's when I move to Mexico!) -Sue D.



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The other thing, is, if they ask if when your last period was, say, last
week.
(or they assume you are pregnant and won't treat you). Plus you will in
for a pregnancy exam.
(what  idiots! )
And if they ask when your last "pap" was and "physical", "mammogram", or
"pelvic", say 6 weeks ago.
Or they will stick everything they can, into every hole you have and
take pictures of it.
Also dental.
Sh-t.
Next thing ya know they will be requiring yearly head x-rays.
(That's when I move to Mexico!) -Sue D.

drmweaver_us@... wrote:

> RJS,
>
> My fear is all paralysing.....I do not overcome it.  I go ONLY when I
> have to and you probably can count on one hand how many times I've
> been to the doctor in the last ten years.  It's usually preceded by
> several days of tears and anxiety...then extreme anxiety on "the day"
> to the point I almost don't see how I'm making it through the day.
> After the visit to the doctor, I tend to feel a sense of humiliation
> and defeat...and sometimes I get very quiet and withdrawn for a few
> days.  It's a good thing I don't have to go very often I guess.
>
> This is the first time I ever posted to this group.  I'm fairly new
> here and I just am getting through some of the posts.
>
>
> Alena
>
> --- In 000-Fear-Of-Doctors@y..., "R.J.S." <rnode@w...> wrote:
> >
> > THis is just a quick question/survey to those who may still be
> monitoring
> > this listserve; is your fear of doctors all paralysing, in that you
> can't go
> > under any circumstances, or is it a fear that can be overcome, akin
> to
> > public speaking jitters?
> >
> > Just curious.
> >
> > RJS
>
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jendiane@... wrote:

> well also alena when you said you can count on one hand how many times
>
> you have been to the doctors in ten years. that is good because you
> didnt have to see the doctor more then that most likely anyway as you
> took care of yourself then . -------and you most likely knew better.
> when you have to go --go . when you  dont have to go, stay home and
> save
> yourself some money. hehe
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well also alena when you said you can count on one hand how many times
you have been to the doctors in ten years. that is good because you
didnt have to see the doctor more then that most likely anyway as you
took care of yourself then . -------and you most likely knew better.
when you have to go --go . when you  dont have to go, stay home and save
yourself some money. hehe

alena is sounds to me like you dont have confidence in yourself.   here
is something that may help you in this matter. first of all if you are
going to the doctor for something minor--not requiring surgery then you
are one step ahead. then if you know what you are going for then read up
on all the info on so you are pretty well informed on the matter.  take
a pen and  a pad and  if you ask a question that you may forget answer
to write it down.   dont be afraid to do this.   remember that you are
the CUSTOMER and a paying one at that !! hence you are really the boss
and he is to only assist you in deciding what is best for YOU.   this
will be a big help.  now if i have a problem such as menopause problems
. firts i got to a good book store like barnes and nobels or borders
and i sit for a hour or more and read up on all the stuff. one book is
never enough and when i get done even if  i make two trips i usually
find out i dont need that doctor at all.  and if i do go i know what
testing i want etc. and if he suggests another i go read up on that and
then i decide and call the doctor back and let them know. i will ask if
they have any material to read on that test to explailn etc.  ----never
let them rush you---like do they rush to  get you in at the visit time.
NO.   so you see really there is seldom more then once or twice a year
you will even need a doctor and when you do  REMEMBER YOU ARE THE PAYING
CUSTOMER..   have some confidence in yourself . you decide what is right
for you with the doctors suggestions. some may be the right ones for you
and some the wrong.  why? because doctors dont listen often enough. .
they think they know it all. of course you cant telll them that. but you
can be sneaky also and act like you are  taking it all in and will
decide.    -------i get nervous as hell also at a doctors but  to myself
i am saying. well here i am now i will listen and ask questions and i
will decide what i need.   hope this helps you.  remember they are
people also and if your doctor is  a jerk and mouthy then find a better
one. they are out there.

I am the same way.
And i take vitamins.
And not just "any" vitamins.
Ones that have a good effect.
Different brands. I am not on a "Shaklee" kick.
I just know what works for me.
-Sue D.

drmweaver_us@... wrote:

> RJS,
>
> My fear is all paralysing.....I do not overcome it.  I go ONLY when I
> have to and you probably can count on one hand how many times I've
> been to the doctor in the last ten years.  It's usually preceded by
> several days of tears and anxiety...then extreme anxiety on "the day"
> to the point I almost don't see how I'm making it through the day.
> After the visit to the doctor, I tend to feel a sense of humiliation
> and defeat...and sometimes I get very quiet and withdrawn for a few
> days.  It's a good thing I don't have to go very often I guess.
>
> This is the first time I ever posted to this group.  I'm fairly new
> here and I just am getting through some of the posts.
>
>
> Alena
>
> --- In 000-Fear-Of-Doctors@y..., "R.J.S." <rnode@w...> wrote:
> >
> > THis is just a quick question/survey to those who may still be
> monitoring
> > this listserve; is your fear of doctors all paralysing, in that you
> can't go
> > under any circumstances, or is it a fear that can be overcome, akin
> to
> > public speaking jitters?
> >
> > Just curious.
> >
> > RJS
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RJS,

My fear is all paralysing.....I do not overcome it.  I go ONLY when I
have to and you probably can count on one hand how many times I've
been to the doctor in the last ten years.  It's usually preceded by
several days of tears and anxiety...then extreme anxiety on "the day"
to the point I almost don't see how I'm making it through the day.
After the visit to the doctor, I tend to feel a sense of humiliation
and defeat...and sometimes I get very quiet and withdrawn for a few
days.  It's a good thing I don't have to go very often I guess.

This is the first time I ever posted to this group.  I'm fairly new
here and I just am getting through some of the posts.


Alena

--- In 000-Fear-Of-Doctors@y..., "R.J.S." <rnode@w...> wrote:
>
> THis is just a quick question/survey to those who may still be
monitoring
> this listserve; is your fear of doctors all paralysing, in that you
can't go
> under any circumstances, or is it a fear that can be overcome, akin
to
> public speaking jitters?
>
> Just curious.
>
> RJS

sue i like your "they let people drink alcohol, drive a car and  buy the
gun but cant get penicillin. boy is that ever true . and alcohol is a
drug also and why dont you need a prescription to get  IT?    NOW
penicillin never can hurt another when you ingest it but the alcohol
and smoking cigarettes can affect others.  never could figure out that
one either. people even laugh  about someone drinking to much etc. but
smoke one weed and wow they think you commited a federal offense and you
have a felony.  but you can get cought drunk driving 15 times and still
be out on the streets. !!

yes the ppa was available without the prescription until this year when
it was banned by the government as usual saying it caused strokes etc.
now it must have been out for forty years and they come up with this
now. all it should have on it is a warning label at most.    they dont
take cigarettes off the market and they are far more dangerous.  they
are afraid of the tobacco industry.   well now you cant get ppa here but
i was wondering if anyone knows if you can  get it at all anywhere. they
say it is off the market i think . i bet cough medicine has mostly sugar
and or alcohol in it anymore. you know years back you could go to the
pharmacy and get cherocal. it was a cough medicine with codeine in it.
------but it stopped any cough and tasted like cherry.   you didnt have
to spend 100 dollars to go to a doctor for cough syrup. its like they
think we are idiots and cant choose what we want. when half the world
can get medicine without a prescription and they know far less about the
stuff then we do many times when purchasing it.    ------the doctors
love it every time we cant get something ---more money for them.

http://www.recoveryemporium.com/AbuseFacts.htm

I though you could get the ppa anywhere.
Isn't it a diet drug?
And also an antihistaminic drug?
I though some otc drugs like contact or something had it in it.

Oh, btw, I have been crazy for a long time.
I must be crazy, because "crazy people" follow me around!
Well, I wish they'd stop.
And now, time for my lithium.
Just kidding. But I am good at it.. aren't I?

The premarin generic is here. Just ask for it t and they all know what
it is. Technically it is not "bio-equivalent". But nothing is anyway. It
is probably made in New Jersey, anyway. The pharm techs over there were
joking with us. This stuff come from your country, and you are not
allowed to have it, so we get it, and you have to come HERE to GET IT.
It was ridiculous!
The dose, I'd start with the lowest, and only increase if you get a good
effect, or no bad effects.
I don't like the stuff. Sure you sure you need it? Well, it's cheap
enough. So if you don't like it, throw it away or give it away.
Well, they finally made the nicotine patch LEGAL HERE!
It was legal there for 14 years!
My neighbor bought one box, for $14. It costs her $25 here. It's week
supply, but she cuts them in half.

By the way, the crazy people that follow me around, are dressed in cat
suits!

Catch ya later.... --Sue

P.S. This can be a really nice list, when it gets going.....
I still can't believe you can drink alcohol, drive a car, and buy a gun
here, but you  can't buy penicillin.
No wonder people prefer to drink the alcohol, drive the car, and buy the
gun! They are ALLOWED TO!
Well, doctors say you might hurt yourself, with penicillin, so it must
be true!  (did you ever?)
Yes, I might accidentally "point" it at somebody and then what?

Yes, we must go to 18 years of med school, before we buy penicillin!
Why not just fill out a form like you do with a GUN!

MEEEEOOOWWW?
GGGGRRRRRRRRRRR!  (but Im the "crazy one!")


jendiane@... wrote:

> i wrote them at this site and am awaiting a reply as to how to get on
> line there as it would not go through for me where i can see the
> postings. crazy but i hope they respond back  it said moderator so i
> pressed on and it told me to wite a message and  i did saying i am a
> member and need to get on line with you etc. thanks sue.------------ i
>
> could go crazy someday maybe i will hehe. but i am hoping i dont live
> long enough to . i want a qick getaway not a long one.  -----------you
>
> know when i was younger i wanted to live forever but since mom is gone
> i
> have changed and only want to go quick and not suffer.  ------also i
> want to take care of my animals before i go. they keep me going.   can
> i
> get ppa over in mexico do you think? it is phenypropalamine for the
> incontinence in dogs due to spaying ?     i was thinking premarin also
>
> but not sure on the dose of that yet? i know you can get that there as
>
> my girlfriend uses it. i have to do some checking but the ppa i hope i
>
> can get there.
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i wrote them at this site and am awaiting a reply as to how to get on
line there as it would not go through for me where i can see the
postings. crazy but i hope they respond back  it said moderator so i
pressed on and it told me to wite a message and  i did saying i am a
member and need to get on line with you etc. thanks sue.------------ i
could go crazy someday maybe i will hehe. but i am hoping i dont live
long enough to . i want a qick getaway not a long one.  -----------you
know when i was younger i wanted to live forever but since mom is gone i
have changed and only want to go quick and not suffer.  ------also i
want to take care of my animals before i go. they keep me going.   can i
get ppa over in mexico do you think? it is phenypropalamine for the
incontinence in dogs due to spaying ?     i was thinking premarin also
but not sure on the dose of that yet? i know you can get that there as
my girlfriend uses it. i have to do some checking but the ppa i hope i
can get there.

Well you must on, here, because, we are getting your e-mails.
We have been quiet lately, but we have great people here.
Are you getting this email? Because I am sending it to the "list".
This groups used to exist, I know that!
Even the other day, it existed, because I added you!
I could not have done that if it didn't exist!
gotta go.....---Sue D.

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