I know people who are using St. John's wort is working for (my mother
inlaw and she grows it herself)...maybe it just dosen't work for you?

you guys started a new group to avoid the flax see guy?...he must
have been awful

oh my goodness....colostomy bags? are they suing? that is horrible.

i am sorry i must have misunderstood you i thought you said you
didn't need an inhaler that you used steroids instead. My husband
used an inhaler among other prescriptions. yuck. so bad for his liver.

oh i see they are different. could you give me a link so that I can
better help people who ask me questions...i keep trying to tell them
to ask their doctor and i still will but it would be nice to know for
fruit loops like me that didn't know that. I wonder why my doctor
never explained that to me or Nick. He just said steroids and I did
some research on them. I do appreciate the doctor though for
thoroughly researching the mangosteen instead of listening
to "negative hype" from those who haven't tried and posted their
opinions on the web. I would love to tell them....take it
consistantly at the right dosage and prove it wrong and THEN you can
write negatively about the testimonials pouring in daily from allergy
and asthma sufferers only on mangosteen extract now. I would even be
nice and not told him told ya so when he came to me to say he was
wrong.....hehehe.

Half of their colons? That is huge. I don't know that much about flax
seed isnt that some sort of herb like oregano....can you tell i am
not a chef...LOL

I didnt' influence anyone to stop their meds. I said that many did
with their doctors help; due to the mangosteen juice xanthones doing
the same function as their meds. I said repeatedly to consult with
their doctor and have him help you to step down safely.

It is not a medicine, it is a food that has powerful medicinal
qualities and big funding is being paid out all over the globe which
is a food (a fruit, peel and seeds) to figure out "why" it is
working ...not to figure out it is working....no side effecs and no
drug interactions yet in 185,000,000 orders from the company that i
buy my husbands juice form of xanthones from.

yes when the funding starts becoming available that will be nice for
skeptics. I used to be one but not anymore. I realize that many are
more skeptical and need to see it in writing rather than try it and
see if it works considering how safe this fruit it (just like an
apple or a potatoe).

I am taking it to as many groups as I can people need to be aware it
is out there and just how safe it is. They deserve to have the
research available which is why i started the yahoo group i am
moderator of . I am also going to post an excerpt of the health
journal in front of me.

And you are right there is a big amount of "quackery going around" i
just read on the enzymes yahoo list that somebody was selling vials
of sugar water he labeled "secretin" i believe...for thousands of
dollars and parents paid it. Yikes. There is 3rd party hard medical
data behind this product. No double blind studies though. I am hoping
those will start popping up soon. I think we are going to have to
wait though as they think they found a cure for liver cancer. One of
the xanthones is consistantly killing liver cancer cells lines in
petree dishes. This is where most of the funding is going right now.
Do you know what this could mean for liver cancer patients? YEAH!!

Thank you for your polite manner in which you replied this time. Take
care and have a great day tomorrow.

Charlee




--- In 000-Fear-Of-Doctors@yahoogroups.com, "suedarn"
<sue.darnell@v...> wrote:
> Ya know, I've been watching a different seed, oil, flower,
> weed, extract, wine millions of dollars (like I care) every single
> year since I was a kid.
> Do you know how many people tried St. John's Wort?
> Do you know how many health groups I have that get these emails?
> Last year it was Flaxseed. It wasn't my group,
> but now there is a group just to avoid the flaxseed guy.
> 2 of the members had to have half their colons removed from
> "flaxseeed".
> How the heck it happened I have no idea. Too much roughage,
> I guess it ate their colons off or something.
> These guys were supposed to get better and almost died.
> Did that group make the news? No.
> But a lot of people heard us and the damage was reported by doctors
to
> the medical journals.
> And a lot of people are running around with colostomy bags over it.
> They should not have taken the flaxseed stuff.
> I don't need steroids. I don't' even have asthma.
> And corticosteroids are not the same as anabolic steroids.
> My b/f had it all his life and I didn't know it. now he takes one
hit
> a day of a steroid and he is fine.
> He ran around throwing up for 33 years. t
> The guy did not HAVE ENOUGH STEROIDS IN HIS BODY.
> But to influence someone to stop their meds is not a safe thing to
do
> eithier.
> It's ok to take medicine. He's healthier than most people.
> He's fine. He's classic severe asthma in remission as long as he
takes
> his meds..
> His is local. -the spray.
> He threw up all night, every night from a closed airway.
> For 33 years!
> If he goes off the steroid, he is sick all over again.
> CLASSIC asthma.
> I let you post that, and you will let me post what I know.
> I did not condemn your medicine.
> But I warned the public.
> It has not been tested.
> You tested it.
> It needs double blind studies and then the studies have to be
> duplicated, to influence me.
> Why don't you take this to an asthma group, anyway?
> And you can keep on tryng stuff out for me, if you like.
> I'm no worshipper of doctors, but there is such a thing as quackery.
> -sd
>
> --- In 000-Fear-Of-Doctors@yahoogroups.com, "townsendfamily3"
> <townsendfamily3@y...> wrote:
> > What the heck?! Snake oil? You obviously didn't research before
you
> > spoke. How can you turn people away with your skepticism what you
> > haven't tried or researched. If you want to stay on steriods that
is
> > your choice but how can you sway others with something you know
> > nothing about from getting help naturally. You don't know
anything
> > about it or that more and more doctors every month now
recommending
> > manogsteen extracts (md's not just naturopaths) due to the
powerful
> > natural anti-histamin and serotonin blockers. Also it is now the
> most
> > poweful anti-oxidant and anti-inflammatory known.
> >
> > Universities and Hospitals across the globe are applying for
funding
> > to study these xanthones even more thoroughly as to why it is
> working
> > so much better than prescriptoin medication which has nasty side
> > effects from long term use and that is proven. You can't "quack"
> that.
> >
> > >>>You are right though, Asthma is nothing to play with. My
husband
> > is doing so well now that he is taking a form of mangosteen
extract
> > he doctor helped him wean down safely from prescription. I have
> never
> > seen him so happy to be free of that medication.
> >
> > No one has had remissions from switching to mangosteen juice in
the
> > 18 months the safe product has been made available...pretty good
> odds
> > id say. Still the recommendation is to work with your doctor to
> build
> > up the xanthoens in your body and get your system under control
> > before you let them help you go down in dosage until you are just
on
> > the mangosteen juice. Your doctors should be the one helping you
> make
> > that decision if you choose to look into it like I did....
> >
> > steroids are actually really bad for you...have you done the
> research
> > on them. Their success rates and bad side effects? I have. My
> friends
> > grandmother died from steriods she had to take and no there was
no
> > other determining factor. Just like america thinks ibuprofin is
safe
> > when it causes liver damage from long term use. Most of america
just
> > blindly accepts medication without research.
> >
> > >>>You are right about another thing however, liquid vitamins are
> > better absorbed into the blood stream and very essential to
proper
> > health.
> >
> > My suggestion. Research the links and info.
> >
> > You will see what I am saying. Choose for yourselves and talk to
> your
> > doctor (he may be recommending it already) as more and more are
> > recommending it every month. It is important to get an
appointment
> > with your doctor (per Dr. Templeman's advice and Dr. Sam Walters
in
> > the health journal in front of me) to make sure that he knows
what
> > you are doing (there are no drug interactions and no nasty side
> > effects) so that when he feels you are ready he can help you
slowly
> > go off of the steroids safely. Like my husband.
> >
> > My doctor can't deny the patients coming in not needing their
> > medication anymore and has done the research behind the botanical
> > mangosteen. Research is the key folks. Not opinion. Happy
> > researching. :o)
> >
> > Again if you want the third party medical research the links to
> "look
> > into the experimentation reports themselves" is on this yahoo
group.
> > I wish you my husbands kind of success no matter which path you
> > choose :o)
> >
> >
> >
>
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/naturaltherapyforasthmaandallergi
> > es/
> >
> > Any further attempts to attack my intentions or charachter or the
> > valitidy of my husbands sucess to be symptom free will be
ignored. I
> > have no wish to have a debate on something that is already
proven.
> > Thank you. just didn't want to be selfish with being symptom free
> > while the rest of you suffered or were on prescription
medication.
> :o)
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In 000-Fear-Of-Doctors@yahoogroups.com, "suedarn"
> > <sue.darnell@v...> wrote:
> > > Somebody is selling some stuff called Xango.
> > > It could be snaek oil. You know, there really is such a thing
> > > as "Quackism.
> > > It is a vocation as old as man.
> > > Asthma is nothing to play with. All asthma medications on the
> > planet
> > > are natural anyway. Do not fear asthma medications. they are
also
> > > safe. Safer than not taking them. IF they were not natural,
they
> > > would be "super-natural" duh!
> > > .
> > > I hae researched asthma medications too. We have air pollution
and
> > > irritants in the air. Asthma can have remissions that make you
> > think
> > > that a medication or a supplemment is working. It does not mean
> > that
> > > it is. Plenty of vitmanis are also necessary, so keep healthy,
> > > everyone, and believe none of what you hear, and ony 1/2 of
what
> > you
> > > see. We use steroids and do not carry inhalers either.
> > > -Sue