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#200 From: "Carl & Amy" <acwinston@...>
Date: Sun Nov 17, 2002 5:20 pm
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Hello

I just joined the list and thought I would see if anyone could help me with this problem.

My last dentist appointment, he told me that I have developed some plaque build-up at and below my gum line... he said that I could have gum disease and wanted to do a DEEP cleaning. He also said that he is starting to see a bit of receding gum line. Now, besides being totally afraid of the pain associated with this, he told me that since I am pregnant, he would not be able to offer me any type of pain medication, but that he would go slow. UGH!!! He said I could go to a periodontal specialist, but I can't do that right now.

Years ago I was supposed to have my wisdom teeth pulled as they said there wasn't enough room for them to come in. But, they weren't causing me any pain so I didn't elect to have them pulled. Well, they are in, and one is loose because there just isn't enough room for it to be stable.

Also, from braces years ago, I have some "cement" residue left. He wants to remove that as well, but said he would only do it at the same time as the Deep cleaning.

So, here are my questions/concerns... I can't go to another dentist right now because of insurance/money... but I don't want to go through that DEEP cleaning un-medicated. Does anyone have any advice about what I can do to either reverse the situation or at least keep it from getting worse? (A home remedy?) I do floss, but my dentist said that being pregnant can cause many changes that otherwise wouldn't have happened. Anyway, I have also had bleeding gums, that I never had before. My dentist said this was gestational gingivitis. I also use Listerine mouthwash, which seems to be helping.

He also said that he would like to pull that wisdom tooth, which I guess is ok, I've just never had a tooth pulled before.

I have just never even had a cavity, so going through any type of dental procedure really scares me.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Amy the Chicken

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#199 From: "Silvana Tacchetti-Carelli" <scarelli@...>
Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 3:53 pm
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Clearwater. But there are others besides him that practice this type of
wholistic dentistry. Look up "Alternative dentists" or "wholistic dentists"
on the web to find some sort of list of dentists that may be closer to you.
But not all are conservative. I went to 5 different "wholistic dentists to
get 5 different price quotes. Ranging from $5,500 - $38,000. (I had 10 years
of neglect. ) I flipped a coin and went to one out of 2 that gave me the
same ball park quote of $6,000. Both have integrity as human beings.
Remember, this is America and a professional must pay his rent and overhead
in order to stay in practice. It is almost no fault of the dentist to do
work that may be unessassary. Eventually the ones with integrity will have
to start doing work that is unessessary.

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> In a message dated 10/21/02 10:06:28 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> << keep searching but here is one i have heard of from a real great
dentist
> in Florida;  >>
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> Where is this florida dentist located??
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> Dianne
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#198 From: JMBWE123@...
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:38 am
Subject: Re: gums leavemealone33
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In a message dated 10/21/02 10:06:28 AM Pacific Standard Time,
scarelli@... writes:

<< keep searching but here is one i have heard of from a real great dentist
in Florida;  >>

Where is this florida dentist located??

Dianne

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#197 From: "Silvana Tacchetti-Carelli" <scarelli@...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:54 am
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Forgot to say to rinse and spit out when finished.

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From: Silvana Tacchetti-Carelli

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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:04 PM

Subject: Re: [000-Fear-Of-Dentists] gums

the idea is to stimulate the area around the tooth to bring blood to the area and remove debri from the tissue.

I have read of techniques using peroxide, baking soda, cayenne, salt, tea tree oil etc.....

keep searching but here is one i have heard of from a real great dentist in Florida; (dentists in the past, old timers, conservative dentists and those from communist contries have versions of similar recipes also.

1) First brush your teeth and floss

2) then mix a batch of 3 parts baking soda and 1 part salt in a container

3) -pinch some into the palm of your hands and add make a paste with a few drops of water. (If you do not have silver amalgham fillings, you can get more benefit from using a few drops of peroxide to add to make a past instead of water.)

4) -get the mixture onto a small child size soft 3 row brush......and vibrate the mixture into the area betwwen each individual tooth and gum. The idea is for the brush to vibrate the mixture into the space between the gum and the tooth. Do not go in circular motion or back and forth. It has to be jiggled in.

5) - Go on the outside of each tooth, then the inside, back, top etc.

Do this once a day, untill you get use to it. Then 2 times a day. When yiou have been doing this 2 times a day for 2 weeks, the gums willl be nice and tuff and pink.

IMPORTANT: Baking soda and salt can be real painful on bleeding raw sensative gums and teeth if the enamel is worn out especially. So you have to be a quinie pig for a while and try just a dab to see what you can handle. Or even dilute the mixture so it does not go on so thick.

There is also a book called the "smiley method" which does a similar thing but uses a ssyringe to drip a mixture that contains a bit of peroxide and something else into the pockets betweeen the gums an tooth. You can oder it on line.

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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:15 AM

Subject: Re: [000-Fear-Of-Dentists] gums

floss
despite bleeding, floss
it will stop bleeding.
-sue
"Jessica Ann R." wrote:
Hello all, I'm new to this group and I am looking for tips on
fighting gum disease. My boyfriend was recently let go from his job
and we lost our insurance. We also have a baby so things are tough
and I'm not sure when he can go back to the dentist. Anyway, on his
last visit he was told he had gingivitis, not severe but it was
getting there. He is only 20 and he brushes more then twice a day. I
am worried that things might get worse and most of what I have seen
on the net says he needs perscriptions. Without insurance this is
tough to do, so does anyone know of a good solution that will help
treat his gums until we can get back on our feet?

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#196 From: "Silvana Tacchetti-Carelli" <scarelli@...>
Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: gums scarelli@...
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the idea is to stimulate the area around the tooth to bring blood to the area and remove debri from the tissue.

I have read of techniques using peroxide, baking soda, cayenne, salt, tea tree oil etc.....

keep searching but here is one i have heard of from a real great dentist in Florida; (dentists in the past, old timers, conservative dentists and those from communist contries have versions of similar recipes also.

1) First brush your teeth and floss

2) then mix a batch of 3 parts baking soda and 1 part salt in a container

3) -pinch some into the palm of your hands and add make a paste with a few drops of water. (If you do not have silver amalgham fillings, you can get more benefit from using a few drops of peroxide to add to make a past instead of water.)

4) -get the mixture onto a small child size soft 3 row brush......and vibrate the mixture into the area betwwen each individual tooth and gum. The idea is for the brush to vibrate the mixture into the space between the gum and the tooth. Do not go in circular motion or back and forth. It has to be jiggled in.

5) - Go on the outside of each tooth, then the inside, back, top etc.

Do this once a day, untill you get use to it. Then 2 times a day. When yiou have been doing this 2 times a day for 2 weeks, the gums willl be nice and tuff and pink.

IMPORTANT: Baking soda and salt can be real painful on bleeding raw sensative gums and teeth if the enamel is worn out especially. So you have to be a quinie pig for a while and try just a dab to see what you can handle. Or even dilute the mixture so it does not go on so thick.

There is also a book called the "smiley method" which does a similar thing but uses a ssyringe to drip a mixture that contains a bit of peroxide and something else into the pockets betweeen the gums an tooth. You can oder it on line.

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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:15 AM

Subject: Re: [000-Fear-Of-Dentists] gums

floss
despite bleeding, floss
it will stop bleeding.
-sue
"Jessica Ann R." wrote:
Hello all, I'm new to this group and I am looking for tips on
fighting gum disease. My boyfriend was recently let go from his job
and we lost our insurance. We also have a baby so things are tough
and I'm not sure when he can go back to the dentist. Anyway, on his
last visit he was told he had gingivitis, not severe but it was
getting there. He is only 20 and he brushes more then twice a day. I
am worried that things might get worse and most of what I have seen
on the net says he needs perscriptions. Without insurance this is
tough to do, so does anyone know of a good solution that will help
treat his gums until we can get back on our feet?

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#195 From: sd <suedarnell@...>
Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 5:15 am
Subject: Re: gums suedarn
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floss
despite bleeding, floss
it will stop bleeding.

-sue

"Jessica Ann R." wrote:

Hello all, I'm new to this group and I am looking for tips on
fighting gum disease. My boyfriend was recently let go from his job
and we lost our insurance. We also have a baby so things are tough
and I'm not sure when he can go back to the dentist. Anyway, on his
last visit he was told he had gingivitis, not severe but it was
getting there. He is only 20 and he brushes more then twice a day. I
am worried that things might get worse and most of what I have seen
on the net says he needs perscriptions. Without insurance this is
tough to do, so does anyone know of a good solution that will help
treat his gums until we can get back on our feet?

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#194 From: "Jessica Ann R. " <lickerish101@...>
Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:46 am
Subject: gums moonlight4you2
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Hello all, I'm new to this group and I am looking for tips on
fighting gum disease. My boyfriend was recently let go from his job
and we lost our insurance. We also have a baby so things are tough
and I'm not sure when he can go back to the dentist. Anyway, on his
last visit he was told he had gingivitis, not severe but it was
getting there. He is only 20 and he brushes more then twice a day. I
am worried that things might get worse and most of what I have seen
on the net says he needs perscriptions. Without insurance this is
tough to do, so does anyone know of a good solution that will help
treat his gums until we can get back on our feet?

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#193 From: sd <suedarnell@...>
Date: Wed Sep 11, 2002 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: "DON'T IGNORE stupid letter!... suedarn
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There is funny spoof on this letter if I have time to look for it, I will send it. These letters are rubbish, though, no?
The spoof goes, like "you will find a surpise in your pants... etc...."
-s

Silvana Tacchetti-Carelli wrote:

It is unfair that you send me this because i do not know more than4 close
people whom i can send this to. Thank you for initiating and planting the
seeds of bad luck in this world.
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> Subject: "DON'T IGNORE PLEASE!!!"
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> RENAN MACAHILIG
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> Subject: "DON'T IGNORE PLEASE!!!"
>
> > > >Sorry, na-forward lang po.
> > > >
> > > > > >>In honor of the Blessed Virgin Mary on Her birthday
> > > > > >>(Sept.8).
> > > > > >>Sorry friends, just have to forward this, please do
> > > > > >>not ignore in honor of the Blessed Virgin on her
> > > > > >>Birthday, Mother of Perpetual Help, our parents,
> > > > > >>brothers and sisters and people of the world.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>This leter started in Davao City, Philippines,
> > > > > >>scattered all over the world, please send 24 copies to
> > > > > >>our friends, do not laugh or throw this for something
> > > > > >>might happen.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>*Alvin Patrimonio's salary increased as he mailed 24
> > > > > >>copies and sent to his friends and relatives.
> > > > > >>*Benjie Paras laughed at this and lost his wife.
> > > > > >>*Jay Ilagan ignored this letter but made 24 copies. He
> > > > > >>forgot to send, he died in an accident.
> > > > > >>*Mr. Dute requested his secretaryto make 24 copies and
> > > > > >>sent it his friends and relatives; he became mayor of
> > > > > >>Davao City.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Please finish within 10 days and do not ignore. Pray
> > > > > >>to the mother of Perpetual Help and remember that
> > > > > >>within 15 days you will receive a surprise.
> > > > > >>Thank you very much and God bless!
> > > > > >>_______________________________________________________
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>SUBJECT: A GIFT FROM ABOVE
> > > > > >>Kiss someone you love when you get this letter and
> > > > > >>make love, all thimgs are possible. This leter has
> > > > > >>been sent to you for good luck.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>The original is in New Zealand; it's been around the
> > > > > >>world and work 9 tmes The luck has been sent to you.
> > > > > >>You will receive something good within 4 days after
> > > > > >>receiving this letter and it is your turn to send good
> > > > > >>luck to others. This is not a joke, send no money.
> > > > > >>Send copies to people you rhink need good luck. Don't
> > > > > >>send, as fate has no price, do not keep this letter;
> > > > > >>it must leave your hands within 96 hours.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>*A Pan American officer got $40,000. Elliot received
> > > > > >>$70,000 and lost it because he broke the chain.While
> > > > > >>in the Philippines, Cabe Welsh lost his wife six days
> > > > > >>after receiving this letter, he failed to circulate
> > > > > >>this letter, however before his death, he received
> > > > > >>$7,750.
> > > > > >>_______________________________________________________
> > > > > >>Please send copies and see what will happen after 4
> > > > > >>days. This chain comes from Venezuela and written by
> > > > > >>Saul Anthony Degroup, a missionary from South Africa.
> > > > > >>Since this copy must associate, after a few days you
> > > > > >>will be surprised. This is true even when you are not
> > > > > >>superstitious, so note the following:
> > > > > >>1) Constantine Delas received this letter in 1963. He
> > > > > >>asked his secretary to make 24 copies and sent them,
> > > > > >>after a few days he won a lottery of $20,000.
> > > > > >>2) Carlo Sadit, an employee received this letter and
> > > > > >>forgot it had to leave his hand within 96 hours, he
> > > > > >>lost his job.
> > > > > >>3) Dolor Fairland received this letter and di not
> > > > > >>believe. She threw it away. Nine days later, she died.
> > > > > >>4) In 1937, a young woman in California received this
> > > > > >>letter; it was faxed and barely readable. She promised
> > > > > >>herself she would retype the letter and send it ou ,
> > > > > >>but she set it aside. She was plagued with various
> > > > > >>problems. The letter did not leave her hands within 96
> > > > > >>hours, she finally typed it and got a new car.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Send no money, do not ignore this letter, it works!!!
> > > > > >>MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!!
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#192 From: "Silvana Tacchetti-Carelli" <scarelli@...>
Date: Sun Sep 8, 2002 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Subject: Fw: "DON'T IGNORE PLEASE!!!" scarelli@...
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It is unfair that you send me this because i do not know more than4 close
people whom i can send this to. Thank you for initiating and planting the
seeds of bad luck in this world.
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>  "Jing Giray" <nadine_mg@...>,
>  "Anna Teodoro-Suanco" <asuanco@...>,
>  "Wilher BigBoy" <jo_soltero@...>,
>  "Victor Adulfo" <vicadulfo@...>,
>  "Rosette Dizon" <rfd1222@...>,
>  "Ramil Rivera" <rriv2001@...>,
>  "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Myhra_Acu=F1a?=" <myhsa@...>,
>  "Lolit Borja" <lolit220@...>,
>  "Jojo Catipon" <jcatipon@...>,
>  "Joel Roquim" <joel_roquim@...>,
>  "Ging Sermeno" <studiostil@...>,
>  "Faith Mercado" <faithmercado@...>,
>  "Erwin Pacamarra" <epacamarra@...>,
>  "Carlos Baluyot" <caloy_67@...>,
>  "Ariel Tuazon" <arielt72@...>,
>  "Alfred Tumbokon" <TumbokonAB@...>,
>  "Emerson Gomez" <emerson@...>,
>  "Odie Bathan" <Judito_Bathan@...>,
>  "Ramil Gamboa" <r.gamboa@...>,
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> Subject: "DON'T IGNORE PLEASE!!!"
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> RENAN MACAHILIG
> Maunsell Philippines Inc.
> 11/F Ayala Life-FGU Center, Makati City, Philippines
> *************************************************************
>
>
> Subject: "DON'T IGNORE PLEASE!!!"
>
> > > >Sorry, na-forward lang po.
> > > >
> > > > > >>In honor of the Blessed Virgin Mary on Her birthday
> > > > > >>(Sept.8).
> > > > > >>Sorry friends, just have to forward this, please do
> > > > > >>not ignore in honor of the Blessed Virgin on her
> > > > > >>Birthday, Mother of Perpetual Help, our parents,
> > > > > >>brothers and sisters and people of the world.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>This leter started in Davao City, Philippines,
> > > > > >>scattered all over the world, please send 24 copies to
> > > > > >>our friends, do not laugh or throw this for something
> > > > > >>might happen.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>*Alvin Patrimonio's salary increased as he mailed 24
> > > > > >>copies and sent to his friends and relatives.
> > > > > >>*Benjie Paras laughed at this and lost his wife.
> > > > > >>*Jay Ilagan ignored this letter but made 24 copies. He
> > > > > >>forgot to send, he died in an accident.
> > > > > >>*Mr. Dute requested his secretaryto make 24 copies and
> > > > > >>sent it his friends and relatives; he became mayor of
> > > > > >>Davao City.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Please finish within 10 days and do not ignore. Pray
> > > > > >>to the mother of Perpetual Help and remember that
> > > > > >>within 15 days you will receive a surprise.
> > > > > >>Thank you very much and God bless!
> > > > > >>_______________________________________________________
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>SUBJECT: A GIFT FROM ABOVE
> > > > > >>Kiss someone you love when you get this letter and
> > > > > >>make love, all thimgs are possible. This leter has
> > > > > >>been sent to you for good luck.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>The original is in New Zealand; it's been around the
> > > > > >>world and work 9 tmes The luck has been sent to you.
> > > > > >>You will receive something good within 4 days after
> > > > > >>receiving this letter and it is your turn to send good
> > > > > >>luck to others. This is not a joke, send no money.
> > > > > >>Send copies to people you rhink need good luck. Don't
> > > > > >>send, as fate has no price, do not keep this letter;
> > > > > >>it must leave your hands within 96 hours.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>*A Pan American officer got $40,000. Elliot received
> > > > > >>$70,000 and lost it because he broke the chain.While
> > > > > >>in the Philippines, Cabe Welsh lost his wife six days
> > > > > >>after receiving this letter, he failed to circulate
> > > > > >>this letter, however before his death, he received
> > > > > >>$7,750.
> > > > > >>_______________________________________________________
> > > > > >>Please send copies and see what will happen after 4
> > > > > >>days. This chain comes from Venezuela and written by
> > > > > >>Saul Anthony Degroup, a missionary from South Africa.
> > > > > >>Since this copy must associate, after a few days you
> > > > > >>will be surprised. This is true even when you are not
> > > > > >>superstitious, so note the following:
> > > > > >>1) Constantine Delas received this letter in 1963. He
> > > > > >>asked his secretary to make 24 copies and sent them,
> > > > > >>after a few days he won a lottery of $20,000.
> > > > > >>2) Carlo Sadit, an employee received this letter and
> > > > > >>forgot it had to leave his hand within 96 hours, he
> > > > > >>lost his job.
> > > > > >>3) Dolor Fairland received this letter and di not
> > > > > >>believe. She threw it away. Nine days later, she died.
> > > > > >>4) In 1937, a young woman in California received this
> > > > > >>letter; it was faxed and barely readable. She promised
> > > > > >>herself she would retype the letter and send it ou ,
> > > > > >>but she set it aside. She was plagued with various
> > > > > >>problems. The letter did not leave her hands within 96
> > > > > >>hours, she finally typed it and got a new car.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Send no money, do not ignore this letter, it works!!!
> > > > > >>MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!!
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#191 From: "Len Roy, DMD" <lenski@...>
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Subject: "DON'T IGNORE PLEASE!!!"

> > >Sorry, na-forward lang po.
> > >
> > > > >>In honor of the Blessed Virgin Mary on Her birthday
> > > > >>(Sept.8).
> > > > >>Sorry friends, just have to forward this, please do
> > > > >>not ignore in honor of the Blessed Virgin on her
> > > > >>Birthday, Mother of Perpetual Help, our parents,
> > > > >>brothers and sisters and people of the world.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>This leter started in Davao City, Philippines,
> > > > >>scattered all over the world, please send 24 copies to
> > > > >>our friends, do not laugh or throw this for something
> > > > >>might happen.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>*Alvin Patrimonio's salary increased as he mailed 24
> > > > >>copies and sent to his friends and relatives.
> > > > >>*Benjie Paras laughed at this and lost his wife.
> > > > >>*Jay Ilagan ignored this letter but made 24 copies. He
> > > > >>forgot to send, he died in an accident.
> > > > >>*Mr. Dute requested his secretaryto make 24 copies and
> > > > >>sent it his friends and relatives; he became mayor of
> > > > >>Davao City.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Please finish within 10 days and do not ignore. Pray
> > > > >>to the mother of Perpetual Help and remember that
> > > > >>within 15 days you will receive a surprise.
> > > > >>Thank you very much and God bless!
> > > > >>_______________________________________________________
> > > > >>
> > > > >>SUBJECT: A GIFT FROM ABOVE
> > > > >>Kiss someone you love when you get this letter and
> > > > >>make love, all thimgs are possible. This leter has
> > > > >>been sent to you for good luck.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>The original is in New Zealand; it's been around the
> > > > >>world and work 9 tmes The luck has been sent to you.
> > > > >>You will receive something good within 4 days after
> > > > >>receiving this letter and it is your turn to send good
> > > > >>luck to others. This is not a joke, send no money.
> > > > >>Send copies to people you rhink need good luck. Don't
> > > > >>send, as fate has no price, do not keep this letter;
> > > > >>it must leave your hands within 96 hours.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>*A Pan American officer got $40,000. Elliot received
> > > > >>$70,000 and lost it because he broke the chain.While
> > > > >>in the Philippines, Cabe Welsh lost his wife six days
> > > > >>after receiving this letter, he failed to circulate
> > > > >>this letter, however before his death, he received
> > > > >>$7,750.
> > > > >>_______________________________________________________
> > > > >>Please send copies and see what will happen after 4
> > > > >>days. This chain comes from Venezuela and written by
> > > > >>Saul Anthony Degroup, a missionary from South Africa.
> > > > >>Since this copy must associate, after a few days you
> > > > >>will be surprised. This is true even when you are not
> > > > >>superstitious, so note the following:
> > > > >>1) Constantine Delas received this letter in 1963. He
> > > > >>asked his secretary to make 24 copies and sent them,
> > > > >>after a few days he won a lottery of $20,000.
> > > > >>2) Carlo Sadit, an employee received this letter and
> > > > >>forgot it had to leave his hand within 96 hours, he
> > > > >>lost his job.
> > > > >>3) Dolor Fairland received this letter and di not
> > > > >>believe. She threw it away. Nine days later, she died.
> > > > >>4) In 1937, a young woman in California received this
> > > > >>letter; it was faxed and barely readable. She promised
> > > > >>herself she would retype the letter and send it ou ,
> > > > >>but she set it aside. She was plagued with various
> > > > >>problems. The letter did not leave her hands within 96
> > > > >>hours, she finally typed it and got a new car.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Send no money, do not ignore this letter, it works!!!
> > > > >>MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!!

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#190 From: "Silvana Tacchetti-Carelli" <scarelli@...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:09 pm
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There are nice dentists out there. A dentist like you describe may be one
who is interested in a whole person approach. This is called holistic
dentistry or alternative dentist practices which seems to be becoming more
available and accepted nowadays that amalgham is being attacked with good
reason. Look for alternative/holistic/natural/non-toxic dentists in your
area or search on internet frst.
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> My earliest experience at the dentist involved the removal of five
> teeth.  I was totally terrified of the experience.  Subsequent visits
> were just as bad.  One time when I objected to the forthcoming of the
> novocaine shot, my dentist slapped me across the face.  Consequently,
> I have always been uncomfortable at the dentist.
>
> Now years later, I don't put up with any crap at all from dentists.
> They either do things my way-nitrous oxide for all work, topical, and
> numerous shots to deaden the area to be worked on or I immediately go
> to another dentist.
>
> I've found that it seems to take 5-6 dentists in a new area (and this
> is with alot of phone calls before hand sorting them out) before I
> find one with which I am comfortable.  Because things change
> (insurance, jobs, good dentist retiring on me etc.), I am always
> looking for the next one.
>
> But the one thing that I can not seem to find is a dentist that has a
> staff which does not have distain and/or lack of respect for me as a
> patient.  Apparently, I am a major interuption for them.  Since they
> can't run me in and out of the office quickly, the staff treats me
> like dirt.
>
> I am employed in a service intensive industry myself. If I treated my
> clients like they treated me, I would not have any.  I pay my bills
> and am completely up front about my needs, but then they want to do
> things their way-no time for a shot,or nitrous etc.
>
> If this profession treated me properly in the first place, I probably
> wouldn't need to go through all the "hastle".  Comments please.
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#189 From: "blackhawkten" <LisaAWatters@...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:53 am
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My earliest experience at the dentist involved the removal of five
teeth.  I was totally terrified of the experience.  Subsequent visits
were just as bad.  One time when I objected to the forthcoming of the
novocaine shot, my dentist slapped me across the face.  Consequently,
I have always been uncomfortable at the dentist.

Now years later, I don't put up with any crap at all from dentists.
They either do things my way-nitrous oxide for all work, topical, and
numerous shots to deaden the area to be worked on or I immediately go
to another dentist.

I've found that it seems to take 5-6 dentists in a new area (and this
is with alot of phone calls before hand sorting them out) before I
find one with which I am comfortable.  Because things change
(insurance, jobs, good dentist retiring on me etc.), I am always
looking for the next one.

But the one thing that I can not seem to find is a dentist that has a
staff which does not have distain and/or lack of respect for me as a
patient.  Apparently, I am a major interuption for them.  Since they
can't run me in and out of the office quickly, the staff treats me
like dirt.

I am employed in a service intensive industry myself. If I treated my
clients like they treated me, I would not have any.  I pay my bills
and am completely up front about my needs, but then they want to do
things their way-no time for a shot,or nitrous etc.

If this profession treated me properly in the first place, I probably
wouldn't need to go through all the "hastle".  Comments please.

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#188 From: "Silvana Tacchetti-Carelli" <scarelli@...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 5:25 pm
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I don't know that it is any one name. It is just any place that is set up to
do dental work but is not owned for the intention of making a profit, so the
dentists are paid by the state or by fixed salary, or, they take turns
volunrteering. Some dental schools offer something like this. In big cities,
they will cost more, in smaller areas, they may do services for a smaller
fee, but someone may have to qualify as low income etc.

Perhaps see clinics. Just becasue one goes there, does not mean you have to
get the work done there.....It is mearly to get more spread out opinion from
some dentist or someone who knows how to read x-rays and see your gums and
teeth who is not worried about making his rent overhead/ malpractice
insurance and paying his staffs salary.
Think about it. If a dentist has 3 girls working in the office, thats about
$20,000+ each + benefits for their salaries. Plus he needs to make a
desireable weekly income or else why have a practice. What dentist in a
capitalist country is going to really tell you if you don't really need
certain things done to your teeth. A filling can cost up to $250+ or so when
it is messy and large. A crown $800+. Get my point. If you use cheap stuff
or mixed metal w/amalgham the worst, it can be less costly, but then there
is the mercury in those metal ones. You don't want thas.
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> but what are the name of the non profit places?  Someone told me once.
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#187 From: JMBWE123@...
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but what are the name of the non profit places?  Someone told me once.

Dianne

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#186 From: "Silvana Tacchetti-Carelli" <scarelli@...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 3:03 am
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I went to 4 dentists for consults before choosing. Took 3 years before
taking the plunge. While waiting, analysing, procrastinating, i am sure i
ruined my teeth even further.

dentist #1 - told me i needed 1 crown, and lots of cavities and fillings. I
began treatment but only repaired one cavity and got a temp filling in it
which needs to supposedly still get a crown and it has been 4 years. Cost
$5,000 +
  I did a little dental work here and there with dentist #1, but when i met
dentist #4, that is whom i chose, even though i felt #1 was sincere. My doc
uses #4 who is much older and that is why.
#2 - told me i needed every tooth in my mouth crowned plus 1 root canal and
lots of cavities. cost - $35,000
#3 - said i needed 2/3 of my teeth crowned, and lots of cavities. cost -
$18,000
#4 - said i needed no crowns but an overlay, lots of cavities, old amalgam
to remove and repair with composite/ resin, no , mercury. - cost $6,000

I chose dentist # 4 from #1 because he was the oldest and said i did not
need crowns. So you see the range. Get many opinions. Go to a clinic or
colledge or non for profit place with your x-rays for a consult/exam opinion
becasue they make no profit so have no desire to harpoon you or make you do
things you don't need. SUppposedly.

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> I need so many root canals and crowns, how does a person pay
> for all this???  Just had a bridge too.
> Any ideas??
>
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#185 From: "leavemealone33" <JMBWE123@...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 10:54 pm
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I need so many root canals and crowns, how does a person pay
for all this???  Just had a bridge too.
Any ideas??

Dianne

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#184 From: sd <suedarnell@...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:33 pm
Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Fw: Statistics]] suedarn
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This is a good one.

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Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 1:45 PM

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Subject: Statistics

Statistics from the U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services

Number of physicians in the United States: 700,000
Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000
Accidental deaths per physician: 0.171

Number of gun owners in the United States: 80,000,000
Number of accidental gun deaths per year: 1,500
Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188

Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous that gun owners.

FACT: Not everyone has a gun, but everyone has at least one doctor.

Please alert you friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets out of hand. As a public health measure, I have withheld the statistics on Lawyers, for fear that the shock could cause people to seek medical aid!

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#183 From: sd <suedarnell@...>
Date: Fri Jun 14, 2002 6:08 pm
Subject: Re: HOT ROOT CANAL suedarn
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Do you know hwow to look up the symptoms of an abscess?
IT IS SENSITIVE TO HOT.
Are you even still dealing with this?
Here are som links. And you DO NOT have to have a temperature.
Most people son't.
You don't get an tmepreature if you skin your knee!
The infection is contained within an area called the "abscess."
It is like a huge pimple, the size of a kernel of corn, but it can get like a strawberry!.

MEDLINEplus Medical Encyclopedia: Tooth abscess
... Symptoms Return to top: toothache: severe, continuous; gnawing or throbbing pain;
sharp or shooting pain. pain when chewing; sensitivity of the teeth to hot or cold; ...
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001060.htm - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

Understanding a Toothache
... Do you have one or more of the following symptoms? ... Extraction of an abscessed tooth
may be suggested as an ... throbbing pain or is the tooth very sensitive to hot ...
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Toothache, Oral Pain (such as teeth hurting or tooth / teeth hurt ...
... the pulp tissue to become infected resulting in an abscessed tooth, ... can expose tooth
roots making them more sensitive to hot ... Tooth & Oral Pain Symptoms Guide. ...
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JMBWE123@... wrote:

Sue, I do not have a temp. All I have is a crappy very large filling where
they did the root canal. I was suppose to crown this three to four yrs. ago
and never did. So then I needed a root canal. Now that the root canal is
done it is reacting to HOT things terribly. Probably too late for the crown
now cause something is wrong with it. Not sure it is infected. No pain
unless drink hot liquids.
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#182 From: JMBWE123@...
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:17 pm
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Sue, I do not have a temp.  All I have is a crappy very large filling where
they did the root canal.  I was suppose to crown this three to four yrs. ago
and never did.  So then I needed a root canal.  Now that the root canal is
done it is reacting to HOT things terribly.  Probably too late for the crown
now cause something is wrong with it.  Not sure it is infected.  No pain
unless drink hot liquids.

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#181 From: sd <suedarnell@...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 4:19 pm
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Yeh, you were supposed to get a decent crown to protect it from bacteria.
You can gain some time with less pain, if you cure this infection.
If you have any n\antibiotics that you safely took before, (Like for a sore throat), you can probably take them for about one or two days and will se a difference.
Hey technically, you are supposed to go to a dentist.
(But I did guess it. You have more than a crack inthe crown. You have no crown.)
You have a shabby "temp". That is not on tight enough to keep bateria out. It is not enough to keep the eyedrops out, either. The eydrops might work. It is the safest thing.).
I have had pains, put myself on anitibiotics, and been told I was was doing the right thing, by dentists.
They just dont want to give everytbody anitiboitics, cause them can get in trouble by their licensing boards (evil peers).
I have even been told that if there is awhit raised area om the gum, near the surface, to go ahaead and prick it with an alcnol dipped neele to relive pressure there. And come into their office as soon as them can get you in. This is to prevent night time visits, and for you and he, to get some sleep, and such,.
Small abscesses are only imergencies is\f thereis significant pain or ilfmaation. Or if you immune system is compromised.
Also, they will squeeze you in immeditaely if you say you have an abscess.
"Abscess" is a buzz word that twill get you immediate treatment.
I am not a dintist or a cotor. bnut this is info that I have found to be true.
My teeth got ruined by an alcoholic dentist, back inthe 50s WehnI was a child,k this man woild snoke a cigarette, right in my face, as he was o\wrking onme. people cannot beleive this. I didn't know it was worng. I was a baby.

I seriously would do the naitbiotics, and then tell him that you did. He won't scold you.
(Well, if he does, then I'd laugh, becuase he was the one that left you with a shoddily constructed temp. ANd h probably knew you were phovic.
He could have done a much better job on the temp.).
A good temp only costs him less than $10 in plastic and cement. (they come in sets)
I ordered a catalog of dental mateirals in the mail and found out a lot.
-sue d.

JMBWE123@... wrote:

In a message dated 6/7/02 9:59:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
suedarnell@... writes:
<< dunno..
Maybe wiggle the toothea smidgen to see lke it there is a crack inthe
crown, then the anitibiotic will seep into it and kill the infection >>
Sure I won't die from the antibiotic in my mouth??? I don't have a crown. I
never got one after my root canal. Could that be the problem? Have a weird
giant filling covering half the tooth instead. Been doing the eye drops onto
it thou
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#180 From: JMBWE123@...
Date: Sun Jun 9, 2002 8:55 am
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In a message dated 6/7/02 9:59:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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<<  dunno..
  Maybe wiggle the toothea smidgen to see lke it there is a crack inthe
  crown, then the anitibiotic will seep into it and kill the infection >>

Sure I won't die from the antibiotic in my mouth???  I don't have a crown.  I
never got one after my root canal.  Could that be the problem?  Have a weird
giant filling covering half the tooth instead.  Been doing the eye drops onto
it thou

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#179 From: sd <suedarnell@...>
Date: Fri Jun 7, 2002 4:58 pm
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I dunno..
Maybe wiggle the toothea smidgen to see lke it there is a crack inthe crown, then the anitibiotic will seep into it and kill the infection. If it doesn't work in a day +1/2, I'd switch to oral anitibiotics.
But don't take anything you are allergic to.

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so spray the eye drops right onto the tooth huh? Then what?
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#178 From: JMBWE123@...
Date: Fri Jun 7, 2002 11:02 am
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so spray the eye drops right onto the tooth huh?  Then what?

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#177 From: JMBWE123@...
Date: Fri Jun 7, 2002 11:00 am
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So oral antibiotics for an absess??

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#176 From: sd <suedarnell@...>
Date: Fri Jun 7, 2002 2:30 pm
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"more infe tins
I meant "more infections"

sd wrote:
they wuld insist on pulling that tooth,

threatening you with "more infe tins if they don't.
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#175 From: sd <suedarnell@...>
Date: Fri Jun 7, 2002 2:28 pm
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Oh yeh, the liquid kind worked great for me. It held me over for years.
(Expiration date not matter, either. It is offically good for 2 years past the date.
I'd get a flare up like once a year of once overy 2-4 years. And it would kill it that day.
It was Neosporin Opthalmic, saline based eye drops. And you get it for under $4.00 in Mexico.
(Saline means water with NaCl in it, to the same constistency as blood and tears, etc., so it won't damage eye or other sensitive tissues. And it would be PH normal, too. In fact, "Saline is aolso called "normal saline").
Hey, I'm gald you are here so I can "show off")
I live near the border and started buying things like creams and antibiotics for my pets (I have 12).
And I noticed they were produced in our country and packaged here, too.!
Some are from England, Some from Mexico. There are many geenrics there, too.
But Neosporin brand is dirt cheap there.
Some other name brands, are dirt cheap, too.
Real expensive sutff here, (Retina-A), etc.) and no doctor hassles.
Yeh, ya just drop it like an eye dropper.
(An old lady told me about using rubbing alcohol to do it, and it worked, too.)
The eye medidcine was a brainstorm of mine.
Why would it be bad?
(Beause youare igmoring the real problem andentist would say!)
That the tooth needs to be pulled amd you need to have pins drilled into you r bones.
Actually, if you get your tooth pulle,d less bloos flows to the bone,s and you will experienc BONE LOSS.
and possible facial deformities that pple get.
No dentist would deny the bone thing It is too well known and documented. But they wil tell you they have meds for it and bone powder, too.
But they have not been tested long enough yet.
They just came out last year.
If you use listerine mouth wash in your mouth before the eyedrops,
so you will just have a germ free mouth,
You can still use it for the kids.

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It maybe be safer to just JMBWE123@... wrote:

No, sorry , I meant i have eye infection eyedrops that the kids had to use a
few times. You put that right on the tooth?
Di

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#174 From: sd <suedarnell@...>
Date: Fri Jun 7, 2002 2:12 pm
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See, it ilike cleaning out a hole.
Evidently they scraped the walls of that hole, but didn't do it good enough so some bacteria was left. Or they introduced some.
Either way, Antibiotics is the easiest quickest way to kill bacteria.
It is most likely staph. (it is everywhere).
And the strongest thing against staph specific, is Doxy.
They gave us doxy for tootha ches, Doxy for post oral surgery (other antibiotics didnt' work, but yu can try them) They gave me doxy for a spider bite, too.
Root cananl "is" minor surgery, and they used to issue it routinely after RC's but there is a "scare" against issuing it for prophylaxis, now a days.
(Wish a REAL dentist would come to this list!)
I am not a doctor, ya know...
Just some pre-med classes and some "rounds" and a lot of experience and study....
Abscess is not "supposed" to happen now, no.
But it did.

JMBWE123@... wrote:

So what can be done for a tooth that has already been root canaled and now
has an absess? Didn't know that was even possible.

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#173 From: sd <suedarnell@...>
Date: Fri Jun 7, 2002 2:06 pm
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YEh,
500 mg 2x a day is cool.
That would be less than most of the health nuts take.
The dude who discovered it's properies recommended 5-6 grams and more.
2x 500 = 1 gram.
plenty enough for me.

Another doc might want to give you a "better" root cnanl....
A bridge is nothing, but they wuld insist on pulling that tooth,
threatening you with "more infe tins if they don't.
They might even refuse to give you a bredge without pulling the tooth.
I hate dentists.
P.S. Do I know you from another e-mail list?

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#172 From: JMBWE123@...
Date: Thu Jun 6, 2002 10:06 pm
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In a message dated 6/6/02 4:03:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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<< Also, Vitamin C if you can handle that, helps a lot. >>

Taken orally you mean?  tablets?

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#171 From: JMBWE123@...
Date: Thu Jun 6, 2002 10:05 pm
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So what can be done for a tooth that has already been root canaled and now
has an absess?  Didn't know that was even possible.

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