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From: Silvana Tacchetti-Carelli

To: 000-Fear-Of-Dentists@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:38 PM

Subject: Re: [000-Fear-Of-Dentists] New with Problem

Sounds like you have pretty good teeth since you never had a cavity and that you aree improving with just listerine!

 

I would get a modified deep cleaning without the meds.

 

But first i would toughen up my gums and get rid of some of the bacteria with self help methods.

 

Increase  a bit of Vitamin C but Do NOT SUCK ON VITAMIN C!!!!!  (made with Ascorbic Acid)

 

It is excellent for bleeding gums but deadly for tooth enamel. It will eat away your tooth enamel if you let it get on your teeth. (This happed to me.)

 

YOu can use a dulled toothpick and go around your gum line to clean your teeth yourself first. This will give you an idea of how much you will be able to tolerate if you get a cleaning without medication.

 

This might be worth a try......

 

 

the idea is to stimulate the area around the tooth to bring blood to the area and remove debri from the tissue.

 

I have read of techniques using peroxide, baking soda, cayenne, salt, tea tree oil etc.....

 

keep searching but here is one i have heard of from a real great dentist in Florida; (dentists in the past, old timers, conservative dentists and those from communist contries have versions of similar recipes also.

 

1) First brush your teeth and floss

2) then mix a batch of 3 parts baking soda and 1 part salt in a container

3) -pinch some into the palm of your hands and add make a paste with a few drops of water. (If you do not have silver amalgham fillings, you can get more benefit from using a few drops of peroxide to add to make a past instead of water.)

4) -get the mixture onto a small child size soft 3 row brush......and vibrate the mixture into the area betwwen each individual tooth and gum. The idea is for the brush to vibrate the mixture into the space between the gum and the tooth. Do not go in circular motion or back and forth. It has to be jiggled in.

5) - Go on the outside of each tooth, then the inside, back, top etc.

 

Do this once a day, untill you get use to it. Then 2 times a day. When yiou have been doing this 2 times a day for 2 weeks, the gums willl be nice and tuff and pink.

 

IMPORTANT: Baking soda and salt can be real painful on bleeding raw sensative gums and teeth if the enamel is worn out especially. So you have to be a quinie pig for a while and try just a dab to see what you can handle. Or even dilute the mixture so it does not go on so thick.

 

 

There is also a book called the "smiley method" which does a similar thing but uses a ssyringe to drip a mixture that contains a bit of peroxide and something else into the pockets betweeen the gums an tooth. You can oder it on line.

 

If the brushing method hurts.........try using very warm water and going around your gums with washcloth dipped into the most diluted version of the mixture that you can handle. At least it is a start and it still would bring blood to the gums and stimulate them to kill the germs.  Let your teeth and gums get toughened up with the stimulation of the washcloth for a few days then stregnthen the mixture and use the brush. You will see they will bleed less. 

You decide how much stronger you can make the solution according to what your tissue can tolerate.

 

That is all i can think of off the top of my kead from what i have read here and there.

 

Please keep searching becasue i am not a doc and i did not have bleeding gums but i had sever tooth decay at the gum line where i avoided cleaning becasu of the pain.

My gums are as tough as leather now.

 

Get second opinion from holistic type dentist.

 

Some sources;

 

- "How to save your teeeth." David Kennedy

- Dr. Trager on line web site somewhere.

- "Smiley Method" ( online somehwere)  Has a recipe for receding gum and paque etc.

 

Your teeth can suffer becasue your nutrients will be taken from your body if you are lacking nutrients from your food choices. Hygein may get slack becasue after children are born....you have to know how to make some time for yourself to do things like a self help dental routine. Focus on resolving this now before the baby is born.

 

Do not get cavities filled with Amalgham or silver fillings. It collects in the baby in utero. Some dentists can remove metal fillings without mercury passing to baby....but they need to use alot of safety quidelines.

 

On REmoving wisdom teeth. I removed 3 of mine and my facial muscle got weak. (I don't get sore throats anymore though.)If they are in a good position and are not deseased, why remove them? Perhaps when your gums are strong and all tight again........your wisdom tooth won't move anymore.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carl & Amy

To: 000-Fear-Of-Dentists@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:20 PM

Subject: [000-Fear-Of-Dentists] New with Problem

Hello

 

I just joined the list and thought I would see if anyone could help me with this problem.

 

My last dentist appointment, he told me that I have developed some plaque build-up at and below my gum line... he said that I could have gum disease and wanted to do a DEEP cleaning.  He also said that he is starting to see a bit of receding gum line.  Now, besides being totally afraid of the pain associated with this, he told me that since I am pregnant, he would not be able to offer me any type of pain medication, but that he would go slow.  UGH!!!  He said I could go to a periodontal specialist, but I can't do that right now.

 

Years ago I was supposed to have my wisdom teeth pulled as they said there wasn't enough room for them to come in.  But, they weren't causing me any pain so I didn't elect to have them pulled.  Well, they are in, and one is loose because there just isn't enough room for it to be stable. 

 

Also, from braces years ago, I have some "cement" residue left.  He wants to remove that as well, but said he would only do it at the same time as the Deep cleaning.

 

So, here are my questions/concerns...  I can't go to another dentist right now because of insurance/money... but I don't want to go through that DEEP cleaning un-medicated.  Does anyone have any advice about what I can do to either reverse the situation or at least keep it from getting worse?  (A home remedy?)  I do floss, but my dentist said that being pregnant can cause many changes that otherwise wouldn't have happened.  Anyway, I have also had bleeding gums, that I never had before.  My dentist said this was gestational gingivitis.  I also use Listerine mouthwash, which seems to be helping.

 

He also said that he would like to pull that wisdom tooth, which I guess is ok, I've just never had a tooth pulled before. 

 

I have just never even had a cavity, so going through any type of dental procedure really scares me. 

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you,

Amy the Chicken

 

 

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