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#160 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2006 7:54 pm
Subject: RE: Naturopathy
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Namaste Dearest Guruji,

Namaste and OM

*     i sat down to write this post and started bawling...hahaha - an
unexplained release.

G    this happens - glad it is releasing rather than causing some build up.

*       I went back for a checkup to the Naturopathic Doctor.  She said i am
still battling the candidiasis, but it is much better.

G   not fun but am happy things are getting better within that.

*      She gave me a couple of things to clean the liver and any parasites
within
the body to allow for strong immune system.

G   very good

*      Then we sat and talked for three hours.  She told me that this battle
i am
fighting is a wonderful grace that the universe has given to me.
Every great healer has their story of dis-ease that they had to
overcome.  shesaid it gives them the "tried and tested" trademark and
ability to
help others.

G  yes this is true -

*       Along with my herbal regimen to take over the next couple of weeks,
she also has me eating alot of tomato cabbage soup.  I just made my first
batch
of it this morning and it is quite tasty.  it has V8 juice, head of
cabbage,tomatoes,
celery, green onions, and green peppers.  For one week i can eat as much of
it as
i want, along with fruits and veggies, and later on in the week i can eat
meats and brown rice.
The enzymes and healing properties of the soup are to support the liver
cleanse and
healing of the intestinal tract.  It isn't meant to be a long term diet,
only a week at a time.
Is supposed to a good aid in weightloss too because it revs up the
metabolism.

G  i may go ahead and give that one a try.   sounds like a good soup -

*      We also spoke about the opportunity for me to advance in my knowledge
of alternative medicine. I will be taking courses soon to recieve my ND with
an emphasis in
nutrition.  This will allow for energy work, nutrition guidance, and
herbal/vitamin supplementation
counseling. (i will have to be licesenced as a massage therapist as well to
do the energy work).
Now that i know what i want to be when i grow up (this took me 27 years to
figure out!), it
looks like i have my work cut out for me.  =)

G   congratulations - sounds like a good plan ...    may you go forward and
benefit many.

Love and Om,
Avlokita

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#159 From: "krissyleo" <krissykaram@...>
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2006 3:21 pm
Subject: Naturopathy
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Namaste Dearest Guruji,

i sat down to write this post and started bawling...hahaha - an
unexplained release.

I went back for a checkup to the Naturopathic Doctor.  She said i am
still battling the candidiasis,
but it is much better.  She gave me a couple of things to clean the
liver and any parasites within
the body to allow for strong immune system.  Then we sat and talked
for three hours.  She
told me that this battle i am fighting is a wonderful grace that the
universe has given to me.
Every great healer has their story of dis-ease that they had to
overcome.  she
said it gives them the "tried and tested" trademark and ability to
help others.

Along with my herbal regimen to take over the next couple of weeks,
she also has me eating alot of
tomato cabbage soup.  I just made my first batch of it this morning
and it is quite tasty.  it
has V8 juice, head of cabbage,tomatoes, celery, green onions, and
green peppers.  For one
week i can eat as much of it as i want, along with fruits and
veggies, and later on in the week
i can eat meats and brown rice.  The enzymes and healing properties
of the soup are to
support the liver cleanse and healing of the intestinal tract.  It
isn't meant to be a long term
diet, only a week at a time.  Is supposed to a good aid in weightloss
too because it revs up
the metabolism.

We also spoke about the opportunity for me to advance in my knowledge
of alternative medicine.
I will be taking courses soon to recieve my ND with an emphasis in
nutrition.  This will allow for
energy work, nutrition guidance, and herbal/vitamin supplementation
counseling. (i will have to be
licesenced as a massage therapist as well to do the energy work).
Now that i know what i
want to be when i grow up (this took me 27 years to figure out!), it
looks like i have my work
cut out for me.  =)

Love and Om,
Avlokita

#158 From: sidha7001@...
Date: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:37 pm
Subject: Message to Sagar, expereices from Tanmay
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Namaste GuruJi and Sagar,

I guess the club of not being able to find the right words to use for
the experiences is now entered.

What comes up is when you realize something is there which has taken
you further, and it is something which is lasting that you take with
you no matter where you go or where you are, then it is a shared
similar experience.

Seems we both came in with some good state of existence, some
satisfaction was there, and now things were put in a forward motion and
rapidly. It was May 22 for my Diksha, so it is 2 months. So, when you
realize that you have a lasting thing, that a new state of
consciousness is there which wasn't before you got there, then we are
experiencing something similar.

I guess we can say, lets see what happens. I am -- um, hahhaa- I just
froze- I looked up- I thought, what am I? I am trying to come up with
something, taking a look at what is, then trying to say what it
is-still trying....

OK, got it, the shakti is flowing-this is kundalini-it flows through
physiology, I could say it is flowing from the heart. It is experienced
as bliss-it flows all over, filling the head and toes-it is bliss and
calm. There is no interest to strain the intellect and try to label a
connection between me and perceived, just enjoying my existence.

When buried in it, which is often, not too interested in anything else.
Yet, all is very practical, can fully function and not run from
anything that is required. Sorry if this makes sense or not, it is
flowing out and I am not going to edit it. It is just another way of
putting words on what is happening.

Intuition says Sagar is having similar experiences as I am or did or
both. One really good thing I am glad about is I wrote my experiences
as they came at Swami G's and also now. I am interested to reread what
I wrote when I took Diksha. I can sort of look at what I wrote from the
outside now-see how fast things developed, I don't exactly
remember-some point came quickly where I like sank deep in calm and
bliss.

I get the feeling things were similar, Sagar arrived, 3-4 days and then
gone into deep clarity. There are a few people including myself that
are looking forward to hearing the reports from Sagar-nice that they
are numbered like that-you can look back at a sequential happening of
one falling away into silence and bliss.

Sat Guru is consciousness, in duality we think of Sat Guru as persona
more or less. As I recall, Swami G cautions her sadakas to not think of
Guru as persona, but anyway, thank you GuruJi.

Tanmay


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#157 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:02 pm
Subject: RE: experiences from Tanmay
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006

Namaste GuruJi and everyone,

Namaste and Maha Shanti OM

*        I continue to be blown away-hope you can relate to those words, it
seems simple enough. Yesterday, the way to describe the day is being
saturated in silence and bliss, and Flow-flowing with the laws of nature,
getting this support while functioning in life.

G   most excellent

*      I was with some customers, I tried to make the explanation simple. I
told them I went to Mexico to visit a Guru and it was like she took a magic
wand and touched me with it, then boom, life was changed forever. Well,
looks like that explanation didn't have any impact so no sense trying to
explain falling away and glimpses of non duality and all that.

G  hahahahahah Yorum has experienced the *magic wand* -  he had his first
jolt of Om -

*     At GuruJi's, there was a CD made from the Hare Krishna group. I have a
lot of time to do meditation, I have been getting up early, so I was
listening to this CD. I guess it is a devotional sort of thing- I don't know
a lot about their group but was surprised to hear about them from GuruJI.
They seem to be well versed in the scriptures, having memorized them.

G    yes most krishna tapes are very very devotional.  these songs may aide
in opening the heart more.

*       In any case, they are good musicians, and the devotional CD is
really beautiful. In listening to it, I went quite deep and it seemed to
have an emotional effect, opens the heart (for me anyway). Thoughts and
feelings coming were of deep appreciation for what is here now, deep
appreciation to Maharishi for opening me up to the spiritual path and now
GuruJi for bringing everything forward rapidly. Really, it was holding back
tears.

G    very nice -  Yorum has also had some tearing up already.  so all is
moving along well.  seems
to be a lot of this going on lately - there was tearing up on last Satsang
day as well by some of the
sadhaka's -  maybe it is something in the water ? hahahahahaha   -  it is
always of benefit when
the heart opens and then the path comes to life.

*       I write this now, listening to some Vedic chanting which GuruJi
heard and said was good, and again saturated in bliss and silence. I guess I
can finish this with may all that I write about my experiences be useful for
others so that the comments about their own life are the same or better than
what I have to say.

G    the comments as to what is taking place in the sadhaka's lives gives
benefit for others to find
out what is possible -  what others are getting or not getting as the case
may be.


   Tanmay
   Thank you for you letter
    Maha Shanti OM
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#156 From: sidha7001@...
Date: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:21 pm
Subject: experiences from Tanmay
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Namaste GuruJi and everyone,

  I continue to be blown away-hope you can relate to those words, it seems simple
enough. Yesterday, the way to describe the day is being saturated in silence and
bliss, and Flow-flowing with the laws of nature, getting this support while
functioning in life.

  I was with some customers, I tried to make the explanation simple. I told them
I went to Mexico to visit a Guru and it was like she took a magic wand and
touched me with it, then boom, life was changed forever. Well, looks like that
explanation didn't have any impact so no sense trying to explain falling away
and glimpses of non duality and all that.

  At GuruJi's, there was a CD made from the Hare Krishna group. I have a lot of
time to do meditation, I have been getting up early, so I was listening to this
CD. I guess it is a devotional sort of thing- I don't know a lot about their
group but was surprised to hear about them from GuruJI. They seem to be well
versed in the scriptures, having memorized them.

  In any case, they are good musicians, and the devotional CD is really
beautiful. In listening to it, I went quite deep and it seemed to have an
emotional effect, opens the heart (for me anyway). Thoughts and feelings coming
were of deep appreciation for what is here now, deep appreciation to Maharishi
for opening me up to the spiritual path and now GuruJi for bringing everything
forward rapidly. Really, it was holding back tears.

  I write this now, listening to some Vedic chanting which GuruJi heard and said
was good, and again saturated in bliss and silence. I guess I can finish this
with may all that I write about my experiences be useful for others so that the
comments about their own life are the same or better than what I have to say.


  Tanmay
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#155 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:02 pm
Subject: Reiki block and Kundalini
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Namaste and Maha Shanti OM

G  you have answered him rightly -  so far haven't heard from him -


    maha shanti om
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Namaste Avinash Rawal,

I am a sadhaka (student) of Swami Ganga-Puri Kaliuttamananda-Giri ("Swami-G"
for short).  Because i have not yet reached enlightenment, I cannot give
shaktipat - only Swami-G (or another enlightened master) is able to guide
you.  It does sound as though the kundalini has been awakened and the need
for a competent guide cannot be stressed enough.

As a sadhaka, one learns that all the reiki attunements and titles mean
nothing when dancing with the kundalini.  A full Path to Self Realization
will be entered into.  A bond with Guru will be formed and mantras/daily
practices will be given.  This will be your way to freedom.

I am going to CC my Guruji so if you were to contact her, she would have a
little background on what has been given from here.  Her website is
www.kundalinisupport.com.  Join the forum and read through the posts.  a
wealth of information can be found about kundalini symptoms and Path to
enlightenment.   Any questions that you post wll be answered by Swami-G or
one of the other Swami's.

I will tell you that you are concentrating too much on the physical vehical.
   You are trying to guide this energy where you think it should go, or how
you think it should be.  Sit still, let go, let it do as it will.  it is
fine if the energy is in one place and not the other.  Get your mind off
perceived "blocks".  Relax and focus on the breath.  Sometimes the energy
will be in your head, sometimes it will be in your hands, sometimes it wont'
be felt at all....it matters not.

Hope I have helped and i hope you find what you are seeking,

Om,
Avlokita (Krissy)









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>To: krissykaram@...
>Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:24:02 +0530
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>Dear Sir / Madam,
>
>I am Avinash Rawal from New Delhi (INDIA). But Right Now I am in New York.
>I have done
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>Then I have taken in attunement many times directly
>And distant attunement and also attended many Reiki
>Classes with many Reiki grand Masters to get the flow
>Of Reiki in my body. But I don’t feel the energy flow
>In my hands and body. There is blockage some where and
>I feel blockage in many parts of my body. When ever I
>Tried to heal my self and others I feel some energy
>Pressure on my Crown Chakra and energy arounding on my
>Head but the energy does not flow in side and in to my
>Hands.
>
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>Remove all blockages. Please let me know if you can
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>Angel healing
>Or Angel reading for me or any thing else which will
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#154 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:18 pm
Subject: RE: Tanmay experiences and Miss Rhade's possible jealousy
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Namaste GuruJi and everyone,

Namaste and Maha Shanti OM

*     I would say there are degrees of how deep things are-sometimes more
than
others, that seems quite normal. Generally, I describe my state of existence
as
being deep, so I would say either deep or very deep. This is the overall
impression I am left with.

G   most excellent

*     While fresh at hand, I am writing now in one of these deeper states.
There is
a difference for me when eyes are closed or open, but this varies-sometimes
I
am deeper with eyes open and in the middle of activity than if after one
hour
of sitting in deep meditation with eyes closed.

G    yes this takes place -  very good

*      I was just in a restaurant, I sat there, closed my eyes and I was
just soooo
deep, that is it-no manta, nothing-just closed my eyes and enjoyed deep
silence and bliss, then sometimes in the middle, opened my eyes, just had
attention
on the heart-same depth-then maybe closed the eyes again, opened, closed, it
was all the same.

G    yes - meditation that goes on without sitting and *meditating* - it has
become
Sahaja (effortless) - it simply is.

*       It is 2 PM, lunch was 2 hours ago-but this deep state is here with
me, and so
thought it was a good time to post about it. This is all about surrender and
grace of Guru. Sorry if I am repetitive but I finish here by saying I am
just
blown away and WOW! It is just saturation of silence and bliss.

G    am very glad to hear you have remained in this and that it continues to
deepen and things continue to fall away .

*     Otherwise, happy to hear about GuruJi's 3 new cats, I am sure Miss
Rhade's
jealousy is off the Richter scale.

G   Chico and Radhe are fine - curious - but Radhe get's plenty of attention
and so
no jealousy - they know i think inherantly that these are very young babies.
   they
are in the process of being weaned from the bottle - now they wake up and
try to
follow me but they wind up getting lost and screaming Meow Meow Meow then i
have to go find them and bring them back -  ah they just went back to sleep.

Tanmay

Maha Shanti OM
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#153 From: sidha7001@...
Date: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:51 am
Subject: Tanmay experiences and Miss Rhade's possible jealousy
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Namaste GuruJi and everyone,

I would say there are degrees of how deep things are-sometimes more than
others, that seems quite normal. Generally, I describe my state of existence as
being deep, so I would say either deep or very deep. This is the overall
impression I am left with.

While fresh at hand, I am writing now in one of these deeper states. There is
a difference for me when eyes are closed or open, but this varies-sometimes I
am deeper with eyes open and in the middle of activity than if after one hour
of sitting in deep meditation with eyes closed.

I was just in a restaurant, I sat there, closed my eyes and I was just soooo
deep, that is it-no manta, nothing-just closed my eyes and enjoyed deep
silence and bliss, then sometimes in the middle, opened my eyes, just had
attention
on the heart-same depth-then maybe closed the eyes again, opened, closed, it
was all the same.

It is 2 PM, lunch was 2 hours ago-but this deep state is here with me, and so
thought it was a good time to post about it. This is all about surrender and
grace of Guru. Sorry if I am repetitive but I finish here by saying I am just
blown away and WOW! It is just saturation of silence and bliss.

Otherwise, happy to hear about GuruJi's 3 new cats, I am sure Miss Rhade's
jealousy is off the Richter scale.

Tanmay


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#152 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:22 pm
Subject: RE: Re: [Vipassana_Kundalini] Fwd: Re: introduction / g
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Namaste,

Namaste and OM -

My experience in reading this post is an enlivening of a pleasant flow
of consciousness which remains now, the grace came right through.
Appropriate thing to say is may this poster experience the same, may
this post serve as a 2x4 to remove darkness so the light shines through.

G    the original post is at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/insightpractice

        here is the next  post which seeker is trying to instruct Guru ----
   the whole of it is posted below.....
if you think it of benefit feel free to join and post your viewpoint.  if
not then ignore -  seekers seem to
think it is wise to instruct Guru's from their vast store of ignorance -
they think reading about something
gives them the wisdom to instruct teachers who have gone beyond mind and
seeking.  One starts
and then they all want to jump on the bandwagon......  yet none of them know
not 1 iota of what
is taught here nor what this Guru's qualifications are.  This is exactly why
most Guru's or Teachers
of any standing have nothing to do with internet groups and seekers Until
they come begging
for knowledge.

Hello G and All,

See message #26033, paragraph 3, sentence 1.

Someone here suggested once that it could be a good thing to focus
on one simple teaching until one really got it. I'm a beginner of
ordinary skill, but perhaps, especially on hot Fridays in July, even
Gurus can learn, and even beginners can be vessels through which
teaching may occur. If so, I think that sentence is what I would
suggest you master for now. It's not my teaching. Lots of smart
people have written it; I'm just repeating what I've heard and found
in my own life to be true. And yes, siski aki, if you're reading, I
see that I need to do exactly what I'm recommending myself. :0)
Metta,
Kathleen
--- In insightpractice@yahoogroups.com, "G" <crystalkundalini@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
>First words of Buddha -
>
>G: Gold or fools gold ? was he a braggard or just honest ? For
One that is Realized this is
>not a brag for there is no (me) seen within to brag - there is no
ME that is Enlightened -
>that illusionfalls away implodes - There is no ME in Realization -

>
>those in the world are within mind - duality - and therefore
process all statements
>from the place of duality and persona. ignorance is (not
knowing fully - seeing from the
>point of separation residing in duality) it isn't a put down
saying that someone is stupid -
>ignorance in this case comes from simply not knowing and living
within a false cognition
>of world - and what one is not.
>
>When Buddha (Awakened One) makes a statement of being Awakened it
was not a
>personal brag for there is no self (divisionary beingness) that
remains. a Buddha or
>Realized ONE or Sat Guru is speaking from the Consciousness of
Reality - yes his eyes see
>a world of duality and knows that those he speaks with are still
within the dream of sleep -
>of illusion.
>
>Would there be the benefit to act as if one still sleeping ? the
good news is it is possible to
>come out of the world of illusion to Freedom. Thus did Buddha say
i am an Awakened One
>- Thus does a Guru (Sat Guru) say i am Guru. Guru is never a
persona it is that Awakened
>Consciousness which comes to
>dispel darkness. in Realization there is no seeing of the world -
no me - only that
>Absolute which IS.
>
>What remains is simply that abiding Truth - that attachment to a
form and experiences
>particular to that form which brought to life mind and the
delusion of being a separate
>entity is once and for all over. Others judge only from their own
mental illusion - as an
>Awakened ONE Knows immediately Gold from Fools Gold and the one in
mental drama
>only thinks they can perceive the difference by seeing the
surface.
>
>Maybe some would have thought Buddha was not humble - Obviously
he was a man -
>therefore how dare he come proclaiming Enlightenment - what
arrogance.
>
>Here is one telling of Buddhas cognition and his first words -
>
>http://www.buddhistforbundet.no/bs/fireedlesannheter/part00.htm
>
>* The ascetic said, "What is it that you have discovered?" and
the Buddha responded: "I am
>the perfectly enlightened one, the Arahant, the Buddha."
>
>* I like to consider this his first sermon. It was a failure
because the man listening thought
>the Buddha had been practising too hard and was overestimating
himself. If somebody
>said those words to us, I'm sure we would react similarly. What
would you do if I said, "I
>am the perfectly enlightened one"?
>
>* Actually, the Buddha's statement was a very accurate, precise
teaching. It is the perfect
>teaching, but people cannot understand it. They tend to
misunderstand and to think it
>comes from an ego because people are always interpreting
everything from their egos. "I
>am the perfectly enlightened one" may sound like an egotistical
statement, but isn't it
>really purely transcendent? That statement: "I am the Buddha, the
perfectly enlightened
>one" is interesting to contemplate because it connects the use
of "I am" with superlative
>attainments or realisations. In any case, the result of the
Buddha's first teaching was that
>the listener could not understand it and walked away.
>
>** ** **
>
>* Later, the Buddha met his five former companions in the Deer
Park in Varanasi. All five
>were very sincerely dedicated to strict asceticism. They had been
disillusioned with the
>Buddha earlier because they thought he had become insincere in his
practice. This was
>because the Buddha, before he was enlightened, had begun to
realise that strict asceticism
>was in no way conducive towards an enlightened state so he was no
longer practising in
>that way. These five friends thought he was taking it easy: maybe
they saw him eating milk
>rice, which would perhaps be comparable to eating ice cream these
days. If you are an
>ascetic and you see a monk eating ice cream, you might lose your
faith in him because you
>think that monks should be eating nettle soup. If you really loved
asceticism and you saw
>me eating a dish of ice cream, you would have no faith in Ajahn
Sumedho anymore. That is
>the way the human mind works; we tend to admire impressive feats
of self-torture and
>denial. When they lost faith in him, these five friends or
disciples left the Buddha - which
>gave him the chance to sit under the Bodhi tree and be enlightened.
>
>* Then, when they met the Buddha again in the Deer Park in
Varanasi, the five thought at
>first, 'We know what he's like. Let's just not bother about him.'
But as he came near, they
>all felt that there was something special about him. They stood up
to make a place for him
>to sit down and he delivered his sermon on the Four Noble Truths.
This time, instead of
>saying 'I am the enlightened one', he said: 'There is suffering.
There is the origin of
>suffering. There is the cessation of suffering. There is the path
out of suffering.' Presented
>in this way, his teaching requires no acceptance or denial. If he
had said 'I am the all-
>enlightened one', we would be forced to either agree or disagree -
or just be bewildered.
>We wouldn't quite know how to look at that statement. However, by
saying: 'There is
>suffering, there is a cause, there is an end to suffering, and
there is a way out of suffering',
>he offered something for reflection: 'What do you mean by this?
What do you mean by
>suffering, its origin, cessation and the path?' So we start
contemplating it, thinking about
>it. With the statement: 'I am the all-enlightened one', we might
just argue about it. 'Is he
>really enlightened?'.... 'I don't think so.' We would just argue;
we are not ready for a
>teaching that is so direct. Obviously, the Buddha's first sermon
was to somebody who still
>had a lot of dust in his eyes and it failed. So on the second
occasion, he gave the teaching
>of the Four Noble Truths.
>
>G first he gave his Qualification of being Awake - maybe some
will accept and some will
>attempt to denigrate - but First he came and stated simply what
was - No persona -
>Awakened out of the illusions - let me share How that can take
place - What is the Reality
>from the illusory. a Teacher doesn't come from these statements
as a brag - it is a simple
>honest telling of what is versus what was.
>
>There is no persona - God is and is not - in order for God to be
God then there must be
>something which is created and separate - there is not ....
Absolute or Self has no
>feeling of personalism so to say one discovers the I or Self is
rather a misnomer. It simply
>IS. not really one but closer to the 0 which is eternally Whole --
--- by itself it may be
>seen as Void - and yet when the vibrationary patterns appear to
cause a divisionary world
>to appear the 0 gives value and takes something from 1 to 10 -
keep adding 0's and the
>value grows by leaps and bounds. This Perfect Pregnant Void runs
like a thread through
>all of creation and yet it is always separate and distinct.......
not something to be
>understood by mundane minds logic. This paradox once stepped into
dissolves and
>implodes all the illusions - at once all is Known as it is. What
remains from that point is
>flow. This Flow then enters a new phase of the Sacred Dance. the
great Mystery is
>unveiled.
>
>
>Love, Light & Flow
>0
>












Tanmay

#151 From: sidha7001@...
Date: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Vipassana_Kundalini] Fwd: Re: introduction / g
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Namaste,

My experience in reading this post is an enlivening of a pleasant flow
of consciousness which remains now, the grace came right through.
Appropriate thing to say is may this poster experience the same, may
this post serve as a 2x4 to remove darkness so the light shines through.

Tanmay

  >
  > oh yes. those calling themselves "gurus"
  > sure are part of life and flow. we eat
  > them for breakfast here... hehehe
  >
  G and so your ego speaks -

  again the button about Guru's
  is showing and shimming in its vibration
  of ME against Guru -

  in all of your posts it is clear that the
  mind is running in high gear - nothing is
  coming from Stillness nor Flow but from
  a mind that sees itself engaged in some type
  of holy pursuit against guru's or this Guru in particular.
  this is nothing other than egoistic drama.


  > ps. the highest title bestowed on
  > a sage in hebrew tradition is "a
  > wise student/learner" ("talmid
  > hacham")
  >
  G and this is why you sign your posts
  a fellow student -

  you are absolutely full of yourself
  have read a few books - think
  you have it all figured out.

  the sad part is you are in suffering
  and your running around the net
  just running the mouth attempting
  to prop up the ego rather than effacing it.

  You don't like teachers that are teachers -
  perhaps you want a teacher that is rolling down in
  the muck and mire with yourself. In that case they
  wouldn't be a teacher nor a light to show
  the way out - what a very skewed view
  of what humility is - there is no self here to play at humility.
  Humility is what a seeker should have. Humility for the teacher
  is Knowing that the Essence is One - and a teachers
  Compassion and Grace is to continue to give to
  seekers Even when they are within their foolishness
  counting themselves wise - as the Guru can see
  through all of their shams - and bluffs - and
  we eat guru's for breakfast here ---- who is this
  WE you think are are counting yourself in ? the We
  of you and the one that wrote the trumpet piece ?
  Is this your big pat on the back to convince yourself
  of your rightness ?

  so everyone gets what they deserve? is this why you
  are getting this mail ? absolutely you deserve it ......
  you don't eat guru's for breakfast the only thing you
  are eating is more and more of your minds ignorance
  and judging without having any clue as to what
  is here versus not ...... just as you didn't even take
  the time to read what Tanmay has gotten from here
  nor what he saw while living here versus what your
  skewed ideas about it are.

  the very very sad part is - you really think you are
  something in being rude and really there is no care
  about whether you show respect or not from here- when you
  disrespect here you also disrespect all teachers
  there has been no Humility since moment one neither
  have you been open to seeing what may be given - all you
  had to hear was Guru and off you went on your tangent.

  The only reason you are still being engaged is because
  i know all your arrogance - bravado - and attempted
  put downs come out of blind ignorance. You don't
  know nor have any way to judge Gold from Fools Gold
  the only thing you see is surface externals - Guru is
  an ugly word to you - but Guru - Rimpoche - Teacher
  makes no difference - They only indicate the varience
  in scenery along the way - but in the end the Reality
  and that Consciousness is ONE........ Humility only
  exists when there is a perception of higher and lower.
  when in duality - in Reality there is no separation.

  when i see you there is the seeing of that One Essence
  beyond the coverings of deluded mind. Therefore the
  flow of Compassion is to remove the coverings so that
  rather than simply spouting what you have heard there
  can be a falling away of all your nonsense. Then you
  will having nothing to eat for breakfast as in order to
  eat it - it must be separate from you. you know the
  words but have absolutely nothing other than an limited
  intellectual understanding. and this brings not Peace
  nor Flow but only another false prop for ego.

  Ego has you engaged in some sort of attempting
  to teach or put down a teacher........ Wow if you
  could do that - and if someone could pat you on
  the back or agree with you then that would be another
  ego pump - hahahahahahahah what foolishness .
  but this is the game that a seeker plays in order to
  fool themselves into thinking that they know something
  and that they are evolved.

  and i will tell you what my teacher told me - fortunately
  for you this is over the internet and not in your face -
  YOU FOOL YOU KNOW NOTHING - WHO DO YOU
  THINK YOU ARE ? This when able to be done in a
  correct way with great volume can cause one to go
  mute - without speech and can turn one within . So
  go within and find out what you are and are Not.
  Neti Neti not this / not this is the practice.
  Whatever is transient is not the Eternal Unchanging Source.
  Why is this time being given to you ? because you are seeking -

  yet you don't know yet the way to seek - unfortunately
  you are embroiled in externals the way you Think or
  have read things should be - There have been teachers
  that have thrown students off roofs - made them build
  a house tear it down and rebuild it elsewhere - Why to
  tear down the ego play - why throw them off the roof ?
  hahahahaha to bring them into the Moment as it is
  rather than as their running mind play is dramatizing.
  You have no idea of the way that teachers work or not.
  Why they do what they do -

  There is no me here - no Guru against someone else -
  Guru is not a persona - the only one confused about
  this is the seeker that thinks they are engaging a person.
  Here what is dealt with is simply the ignorance - that
  which thinks the coverings and the conditionings are
  part of their reality. It is clear as crystal as to the hangups
  of mind and it's projections - these shadows have no
  substance. you think you are engaging someone and
  yet there is nothing that remains here to be called a
  me. There is just Flow - this moment. Flow cares not
  whether playing with one in shadows versus remaining
  in Stilled Awareness - for the shadows are nothing other
  than blips on the ocean of consciousness. let go of the
  blip - may the drop fall into the ocean and then the Reality
  of what is versus what separation sees as a wave is known.
  it has no life apart from the Ocean of ONE - Absolute.

  Maha Shanti OM
  0

   PS do you want to still try to eat gurus for breakfast in your
delusion
  or do you want to find out what is truly Gold versus Fools Gold ?

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Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:21 pm
Subject: Author spouts his philosophy
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Namaste, names have been removed- I sent this letter to swami G, and it was
commented on:

  *In answer to your last letter, which is both from beginning to end with
errors.

  G ah beginning to end with errors ? i see he hasn't bothered to go into any of
the so called
  errors .

  * First I answer about 200 letters a week. This is from a mailing list of about
80,000 people, which I have accumulated over 20 years as a writer who publishes
books about the brain.

  G well this must mean he is some type of expert. implication is quite blatant.

  * These writers include people who are interested in flotation tanks and
sensory deprivation (because of my book The Book of Floating: Exploring the
Private Sea, which won numerous awards, including kudos from the head of the
neuroscience department at Massachusetts Institute of Technology).

  G again you should fall on your knees in rapt awe. and so he doesn't see
himself as greater
  than anyone else ? then why bring this up again and again as to his attainments
within an
  academic world.

  * It talks about what happens in the brain under conditions of sensory
deprivation and to meet two years of living in poverty to do the necessary
research -- interviewing neuroscientists, traveling to the float laboratories,
reading every available article on floating and so on.

  G so fine he did compilations of past works and some interviews -

  * I just wrote a new addition of that which came out last January -- my first
experience in writing books with no hands speaking into a voice activated
computer system.

  G again you should be impressed that he carries on even with his disability.

  * The greatest amount of my letters that I answer come from readers of my
best-selling book

  G yes make sure it is understood that it is a Best Seller. again make sure you
are duly impressed.

  * Megabrain (1986, with updated and revised editions in 1987, 1991, 1999 and
2004). For this book I conducted workshops all over the world, in whatever
countries where translations were published, including France, Spain, South
America, Germany, Denmark, Japan, China, Taiwan, Romania and elsewhere. For
these workshops I accepted airline tickets and lodgings but accepted no money as
I felt it was my duty to spread the word about these techniques for attaining
higher states of consciousness.

  G and ? am sure he was poverty stricken with the best sellers and updates for
how many years. ?
  again you should be impressed that he didn't charge for speading his fame in
workshops.

  * I have written other books and was writing a book about scientific research
into attaining peak performance, for which I did interviews with B-2 fighter
bombers (who are required to do extreme multitasking and whose brains function
at a very high level), mountain climbers, chess players, rock climbers, quantum
physicists, psychopharmacologists and many other scientists and peak performers.

  G how about those who have gone beyond being in a peak performance in the world
of doership?
  How about a study of those who have gone beyond mind ? i participated in a
study with a man
  very well known that writes biofeedback programs that are being used by doctors
to rewire brains.
  he monitored me with biofeedback and also eeg. was able to enter deep sleep
beyond dreaming state at will. this frightened him as he could not understand
anyone being able to enter this
  type of state at will. Maybe rather than looking at peak performers in the
mental realm and physical side of things a study of the difference between
Realized and those within Non duality versus those
  within mental focus would be of better value.

  * This book was halfway done when my house burned down burning on my computer,
my hard drive, all my backup disks over 60 notebooks of interviews with
scientists and other peak performers, over 30 of my own personal notebook kept
over most of my life. I almost died from smoke inhalation when I tried to call
into my office to save my computer. The firemen were only able to save me
because they had recently acquired an infrared device that allowed them to see
me through the dense black smoke. My lungs were almost gone and I was in
intensive care for almost a month.

  G feel sorry for him - so much work lost. man does this guy like to play the
heart strings.

  * Once I got out of the hospital I began trying to one again (I am a dedicated
runner and used to run in many marathons -- I'm also a mountain climber and or
climber, or was before I became a quadriplegic.

  G and ?

  * I fell off a bridge 38 feet onto a formation of boulders and broke my
cervical vertebrae C2 C3 C4 C5 C6 C7 and T1, and I ended up in the icy water
where I died for approximately 10 to 15 minutes (the rescue team thought that
the icy water may have lowered my brain temperature so much that it kept me from
brain damage). During that time I was dead I became one with the Void (I can't
say I experienced it, because there was no one there to experience it, since
Mike was dead) and when I was dead I somehow became filled with the awareness of
many things, including the Oneness of all, the fact that this void or emptiness
or total stillness or pure silence had in fact been with me all my life. This of
course was not my enlightenment but a prepared me to become totally empty and
totally one with all that is.

  G and this was in the original posting -

  * During the two years I spent completely paralyzed from the neck down with my
chin forcibly facing the ceiling because of a whole body brace I had to wear.
During that period I had literally thousands of hours that I staring at that
blank ceiling. The doctors told me I would never be able to walk or move again.
I was filled with determination to become a runner again. And almost immediately
after the brace was removed I secretly began walking around my room, and then
began walking out into the hallway. At that point the nurses confined me to bed
claiming that the doctors report on me stated that I was unable to get out of
bed! I finally was able to get out and ultimately learned to like a normal human
and even to run. But during the years I spent staring at the ceiling I had a
breakthrough which I will describe in detail in my next book, and which is
briefly described in my Thom Hartmann interview.

  G it will be an extended narrative but was in the original story.

  * In any case, I have never claimed to be a guru to anyone.

  G claims mean nothing against what is being done - collecting followers as he
is so want to point
  out - means he is acting as a Teacher as a Guru. the only difference is perhaps
he is not dedicated
  to aiding them the whole way to realization.

  * Of all the letters that I send out each day and all the people who have
responded powerfully to my spiritual awakening I have never charged a single
cent or received the gift of a single cent (people have offered me over $1000 to
spend weekends with them in teachings and I have done the teachings but I had
not taken a single cent).Ă‚ Ask your guru if she has ever taken a single cent
for a so-called teachings

  G i don't charge for the teachings.

  * I live in a tiny broken down adobe hut in the area of town that has the
highest level of murders per capita and I have no income accident my Social
Security disability. None of the clothes I wear are mine -- they had been
donated to me by an Episcopalian church in town (which I do not attend). None of
the furniture in my house is mine -- it is all second hand and third hand,
donated by members of the church. I have absolutely no assets except for a total
of eight dollars presently in the bank.

  G again you should be duly impressed.

  * Ask your guru if she has never taken any money for her so-called teachings.
Ask her if the only clothes she has our second and third and castoffs.

  G i was in the military and live on my compensation. i don't live off of
sadhakas.

  * Ask her if she ever received any money for travel. My guess is she will
answer yes because that is what she is in it for.

  G excuse me ? that is what i am in it for ? guess that must reflect on him
being that he openly
  receives money for travel ....

  * She may give you some bogus answer about needing the money to continue her
supposedly important teaching.

  G Wow - this guy is really sarcastic.

  * But if she were truly enlightened she would accept no money -- I mean
absolutely NO money. Maharishi spent nearly 20 years living in a cave with
virtually no possessions.

  G he didn't live 20 years in a cave - Maharishi while not personally accepting
monies in fact
  Did have monies donated - seekers fed him - housed him - built an ashram - gave
enough furnds to feed sadhakas that came -

  * As your guru ever spent any years living in total poverty and isolation? I'm
sure the answer is no.

  G as a matter of fact Yes i did live in a hut in india - lived in poverty most
of my life. he is sure
  of facts that he knows nothing about. why is this guy so pissed - arrogant -
and sarcastically
  ignorant.

  * In listing her so-called lineage she gives herself up as one of those nasty
clique of liars who associate themselves with Poonjaji.

  G no i don't - have never been with poonjaji although yes one of my Guru's was
with papaji.
  Wow a nasty clique of liars ? now he is bordering on slander. am sure his
followers are very
  proud of his making up facts to suit his purpose.

  * He was in the habit of telling people who had come to listen to him that they
were "enlightened" and hug them.

  G well i don't ..... none are proclaimed enlightened until they are stable - i
don't agree with
  poonjaji's way of declaring enlightenment at the first taste of a sarvikalpa
samadhi.

  * Westerners who came to visit him, one of the first of them that character who
started WIE (What Is Enlightenment?) Magazine.

  G if one wants to know Andrew Cohens attainment just read the interview that
Cohen had with
  Aja - Aja is fully realized and Andrew Cohen could barely follow what he was
saying. Aja wound
  up turning the interview around where Cohen revealed his failings and
ignorance.

  * One after another rich Westerners would come trotting to sit at the feet of
Poonjaji and they would invariably be told when the time came for them to the
that they were "enlightened" and it was their duty to spread the message
throughout the world.

  G this has nothing to do with me. my path was 30 + years of internal search.
this had Nothing to
  do with Poonjaji. And if he wants to castrate me because one of my Guru's
happened to have
  been with Poonjaji then go ahead - but this is his ignorance. This Guru was
also taught by 3 tantric masters - and NO it had nothing to do with sex.

  * By this of course he didn't mean that they truly "got it" and were truly
Enlightened.

  G and who says they are ? again he is making VAST and Totally off the wall
wrong assumptions.
  would be nice IF he would have had the balls to ask me before going off on this
wild goose chase.
  Of course it is much easier to make assumptions and attempt to denigrate
someone rather than
  finding out the truth of the matter. For someone that Prides themselves on all
their research
  What would have happened if he wrote his book based on ASSumptions - he would
have
  gotten sued.

  * It was just his way of giving them good wishes and telling them to spread the
word.

  G yes this was the case - they were supposed to give Satsangs and then point
them in the
  direction of Papaji. Again what has this to do with me ? absolutely Nothing. or
is this a
  case of Guilty by inference.

  * All these people came back to the west declaring themselves to be fully
enlightened beings in the lineage of poonjaji.

  G again this has absolutely Nothing to do with here. What is taught here is the
path through Kundalini. i am not a neo advaita satsang giver. Not only has he
built up a whole negative drama
  built on ASSumptions - he doesn't have a clue as to what is given here or the
path being taught.

  * Just as invariably they would go on the road to give workshops in
enlightenment -- excepting large sums of money in return. Look at the riches
with which gangagi surrounds herself in white silk and Peacock feathers and
people bring her gifts and flowers.

  G again what has this to do with me ? i am not gangaji -

  * Is this poverty? I'd like to see her try living in a cave for 20 years --
maybe then she would really "get it".

  G he hasn't lived in a cave for 20 years - must mean he hasn't got it yet.
Guess that King Janaka
  wasn't truly realized After all he ruled a kingdom - the Ashtavakra Gita must
all be a sham.
  Money or no money does not guarantee enlightenment - it is not the good
housekeeping seal of
  authenticity in Spirituality. Vairagya does not mean throwing away - If there
is money Fine and if
  there is not Fine. Can see that he has another skewed view about spiritual
attainment and the
  world ... what about Yogananada ? must have been another con artist ... Rama
came from Royalty
  must also have been deluded. after all he didn't live in a cave and he was
married ...

  * Once you get it you realize that you are not that doer -- whatever is done is
done through you by God, by the One -- and therefore you have Nothing to do,
except be in Oneness with pure being.

  G AND ? so why is he flapping his gums ? why is he touring ? he is doing more
than
  sitting in a cave.

  * Look at the lilies of the field (I'm not quoting here)

  G then use another description.

  * do they worry about what kind of clothes they wear, about how they make their
lives, about how rich they are, about how enlightened day are?

  G they don't wear clothes. but be that as it may - what has this to do with the
conversation ?

  * Obviously not. That seems more to describe your so-called guru.

  G oh really ? how would he know ? he is much more worried about clothes what he
wears versus what anyone else wears - i don't give a thought it it. i get up and
throw something on. and ?

  * As I said I had never proclaimed myself a guru and had never proclaimed
myself anything -- I am Nothing.

  G hahahahahah read all of the opening - claim after claim after claim -

  * What bliss, what never ending bliss to live in the Void and in this world As
It Is (not as your ego believes it to be).

  G and is he saying anything new ?

  * I have an ego and it comes out from time to time but most of the time I must
say that about 20 hours of the day I am in bliss and in the bliss of
enlightenment.

  G if it comes and goes it Isn't Enlightenment - Realization doesn't come and go
- mind comes and goes. a mental projection comes and goes.

  * It never comes and never goes is just there.

  G if ego is coming and going then Realization is not steady - and the same game
is being played
  that he is accusing Papaji's people of.

  * It's just there for everyone.

  G it is there yet for most of the populace it is covered over.

  * And people who call themselves guru seemed to think that they are better than
other people.

  G no we Know that all have that same essence - it is the one that has some
gripe about guru's
  that puts the division in place. Don't tell me what i think or don't think - he
has NO idea he has a very skewed ASSumption.

  * No one is better than anyone else, we are all God or the One.

  G then why is he making all the put downs ? making assumptions ? i Know there
is no one
  higher or lower -

  * There is no good or evil.

  G not within Reality - in duality as long as minds are locked in it then they
will process as
  good and evil ....

  * As God said had in the Bible, "God does not create good and gun does not
create evil."

  G there is no quote or bible passage that says this - so that Quotations are
based upon
  another of his created facts to fit the need. But this is true as even Satan
that the world
  sees as the personification of evil was created as the Head of the Heavenly
Choir.
  Satan though sought recognition for himself and fell into duality - ego - .

  * Even Hitler was the One (as Ramana repeatedly pointed out -- though this is
not often quoted in is selected writings, few of which have been published and
most of which would blow the minds of these wacky self-proclaimed gurus.

  G who is self proclaimed ? you mean self proclaimed like wacky Ramana ... does
he not see
  that his arguments fall in on themselves - he disparages and then uses Ramanas
words but only those who enhance his failed arguments. Ramana himself said that
those who are not realized Need a Guru. Hello - wake up and smell the Ramana.

  * This returns us to the beginning of our correspondent where you, I thought
tongue-in-cheek -- thinking you may be to be one of the readers of my other
books -- asked me to say something and I recounted the story of Meister Eckardt.

  G i see - so you weren't one of his avid followers hanging on his every word.

  * He was a truly enlightened being, and the truth of his statement, which I
made to you in my very first e-mail, is that there is no good and there is no
legal -- as he said, if it has been done, then it is done by God.

  G and yet in his first mail he said my words were the same as Eckardt but his
problem was
  in my using of Sanskrit terms .. What happened ? he has no continuity -

  * The only way to ever attain enlightenment is yourself (like Maharishi and so
many others) not listening to some other person tell you something that they
believe to be the truth.

  G right so you should think about not listening to this guy and maybe all his
followers should get
  a clue.

  * If you persist in calling this guru I can tell you right now that you will
end up -- whether now or 50 years down the road -- disappointed in her.

  G really - here he has gotten massive changes in consciousness and from mr.
sarcastic all
  he has gotten is a load of nonsense based upon Assumption and projection. So
maybe
  these buttons about Guru's - Papaji - Sanskrit should be delved into in order
that one doesn't
  continue to have baseless Reactions.

  * But oh well, everything in this world and all other worlds is perfect so she
could go down whenever erroneous path she desires.

  G yes the erroneous path has taken this one to Realization - to where the
conditioned mind
  blew out - to where it is Peace that remains unchanging - to where persona
dissolved and
  the mind attached to such blew away like dust in the wind .... all it is - is
dust in the wind.

  All is well.

  G if all was well - he wouldn't become incensed at the mention of a Guru.


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#149 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Sat Jul 8, 2006 1:02 pm
Subject: RE: Experience of Flow from Tanmay
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Blessings  Sat*Chit*Anand  Shanti-Shanti-Shanti  OM

Love- Light - Great Peace & IS
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Namaste to GuruJi and the daily and seasonal readers,

Namaste

*    Thank you for posting your update.

       it is good to see you continuing to unfold

       Maha Shanti OM
                  0

I can't imagine that I can keep saying over and over that it was
deeper today than before. The depth in experience cuts out the
thoughts, one is left with consciousness. If there is less or no
past or future there, then what shadow can one latch on to and
make a fuss over?

Summing it up today, a deep sense of the whole picture is there.
Lets see what else I have to say in the coming weeks. Regarding
flow, in TM the expression used was "Life in accordance with all
the laws of nature", GuruJi refers to it as flow.  Another way
it is described in the texts is Yogasta karu Karmoni. The TM
people that come and may be reading this have heard these
expressions and I think many have direct experience of some
degree of this.

So, it is not solely some intellectual concept, but lived to
some degree. This was my experience, no question about it.
Bottom line to it is that the more one is surrendered, the more
that this is the life- a flow. So, those who run into this post
who know about this and have experienced it, it is my experience
that under the guidance of GuruJi, the veil covering the "Flow "
is lifted more rapidly, then obviously what is left is unveiling
of Flow, therefore when Flow is unobstructed, Just pure Flow is
there.

Summing it up today, I am following the instructions and Grace
is taking over. I don't think I have been with a group of people
who have been in this state or even more advanced. It would be
interesting.  On the trip to India, so far it is GuruJi,
Siddhananda and her son, and myself. Maybe some others reading
this want to come?


Tanmay
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#148 From: sidha7001@...
Date: Sat Jul 8, 2006 2:21 am
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Namaste to GuruJi and the daily and seasonal readers,

I can't imagine that I can keep saying over and over that it was
deeper today than before. The depth in experience cuts out the
thoughts, one is left with consciousness. If there is less or no
past or future there, then what shadow can one latch on to and
make a fuss over?

Summing it up today, a deep sense of the whole picture is there.
Lets see what else I have to say in the coming weeks. Regarding
flow, in TM the expression used was "Life in accordance with all
the laws of nature", GuruJi refers to it as flow.  Another way
it is described in the texts is Yogasta karu Karmoni. The TM
people that come and may be reading this have heard these
expressions and I think many have direct experience of some
degree of this.

So, it is not solely some intellectual concept, but lived to
some degree. This was my experience, no question about it.
Bottom line to it is that the more one is surrendered, the more
that this is the life- a flow. So, those who run into this post
who know about this and have experienced it, it is my experience
that under the guidance of GuruJi, the veil covering the "Flow "
is lifted more rapidly, then obviously what is left is unveiling
of Flow, therefore when Flow is unobstructed, Just pure Flow is
there.

Summing it up today, I am following the instructions and Grace
is taking over. I don't think I have been with a group of people
who have been in this state or even more advanced. It would be
interesting.  On the trip to India, so far it is GuruJi,
Siddhananda and her son, and myself. Maybe some others reading
this want to come?


Tanmay
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Date: Tue Jul 4, 2006 2:13 am
Subject: Tanmay report after returning home from mexico- round 2
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Namaste to GuruJi and all,

It is a few days since my return home after a visit with GuruJi and
Parasmadi in Mexico. Since it seems life is more in the present, it is
a good idea to send in these reports for myself and also as an
inspiration for anyone. This way, while I may not choose to try to
remember what I am experiencing, I can atleast remember a basic theme
to every post. The word that comes up is Deep. It sums things up.

I don't know how many times I can keep saying that I think today was
deeper than any day which I have ever had. The falling away (can't
think of any other words) was more today than ever before. While
staying at GuruJi's, also there is a general theme I can think of, a
word to use and guess what it is?- you got it-Deep.

GuruJi indicated my status- "coming along." So that is where I am
at-coming along. GuruJi said I may reach Realization this lifetime. If
not, then atleast I will be further along. Seems like this is about all
that can be said no matter how deep I keep saying things are in the
reports. We'll see what happens, that is a common thing to say-fits in
with the situation.

In the new book, Guru Ji said something like once one takes Diksha, the
focus becomes very or entirely devoted towards uncovering so
Realization unfolds. This is my experience, it matches what was said. I
am surprised that this is the case. I am actually surprised at
everything. Probably it can be said identity had other ideas than what
is happening. Identity is ego, GuruJi referred to ego as darkness, Sat
Guru is light. Sat Guru removes the darkness which is a false
understanding and identity of what one thought was real. Looks like
this is a way to explain what is going on.

What is being offered-one will never know unless one takes advantage of
it. For those that do, I am most interested to meet one day and also to
hear what one has to say about their experiences. Surely if you are
experiencing what I am or more, we will have a laugh together-probably
Tacos, beans, and ice-cream also.



Tanmay









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#146 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:29 pm
Subject: RE: My doctor visit (comment SG)
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Namaste Swamiji,

Namaste and OM -

I hope you don't mind if i don't post this, it is kind of personal....

G  it is fine.     Here is something that will work on all areas mentioned
( Virgin Raw Unrefined Coconut Oil)

http://www.coconutdiet.com/candida.htm

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/nutrition/coconut.htm

http://www.boloji.com/ayurveda/av038.htm

G  Ayurveda recommends lightly steaming vegetables as raw are difficult to
digest but Juicing
digests quite well .

every morning i am having a juice of  1 granny smith apple - 3 or 4 carrots
a couple of large green leaves of chard or some spinach  - a few green beans
-  and a tablespoon
of cocunut oil  (raw virgin unrefined organic)  mix well   - may also add a
few drops of cell food to oxyginate  and also pau d arco (not to much about
a teaspoon full of the concentrate )

suppliments taken are bitter mellon and also a couple of clorophyl

it is giving energy -starting to stabilize the blood sugar - etc.

A very nice juicer is one called Tur Mix -  really works well -  am
extremely pleased with its
function and (for a juicer)  ease of cleaning.

Maha Shanti OM
       0


*      I went to a holistic doctor yesterday for the very first time.  I was
very impressed.  The energy was crazy high in her office with all the herbs
and stuff around.  I told her that i couldn't lose weight, i am often tired,
my blood sugar is off, and i urinate frequently.  She told me to open my
palms and she felt my hands, looked in my eyes, and looked at my tongue.
She said i am infested with yeast.  it is bad enough that she called my skin
"Doughey".  She also read my palms while she was at it.  she told me i was a
healer, i was sensitive, and that i will be doing something in the holistic
medical field.  I let her know that my kundalini was open and that i was
under guidance of a guru.  She was pleased with this and gave me different
bottles of homeopathic remedeys to hold in my hand.  She wanted to know what
energy each emitted for me.  I told her that all the energy felt the same,
but they affected different parts of the body.  The one that stimulated the
heart chakra she put me on.  She said it worked with my personality and
would cut the carbohydrate craving.  Then she handed me Oil of Oregeno,
Yeast Cleanse herbs, grapefruit seed extract,  probiotics, and some others i
cant' pronounce, and sent me on my way.  As of this morning, i have started
a 30 day yeast cleanse.  It was also noted that i am showing signs of
pre-diabetes.  She told me that this needed to get under control ASAP.  I
promised that i would eat lots of raw veggies, try and stay away from meat
for the detox so that my liver wouldn't be overworked with toxins, dying
yeast, and parasites.

According to her, this has been in my system for quite some time.  It has
been very noticible since my awakening -  I am  looking forward to healing
from such a nasty parasite!

Love and Om,

Avlokita

Love & Light

Let me know how things progress -

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Date: Mon Jun 5, 2006 7:53 pm
Subject: RE: Healing and Update
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Namaste,

Namaste and OM

*    It has been awhile since I have visited the healing group, so I
thought I would give my update here.

0-  That is fine - glad to hear from you.

*    Ever since I was born, I have had a reverse curve in my neck.  The
doctors call it a "Reverse C curve".   A little over a year ago I
was told if it didn't get corrected soon, I would have arthritis
problems at the age of 30.  After a year of spontaneous movements of
turning my head side to side, and back and forth, it turns out that
it has corrected itself.  I went into the chiropractors office and
he said that it is perfect, could never tell it had been abnormal.
So, for all those out there that are getting tired of all the
spontaneous yoga moves – keep on doing them with a heart of
thankfulness because it is probably clearing out something that you
don't want to have to deal with later down the road.!  =)

0-   EXCELLENT!!!  Yes Kundalini can straighten out such problems without a
doubt.  This is why people should not interfere with the kriyas that
spontaneously
take place as they are there for ones benefit.


*    As for any questions, there are none.  I must say that much can be
seen in reasons why things are the way they are.  I have found that
for everything that happens, whether perceived as good or bad – it
turns out for the best.  Swami I can't explain it…I guess it is
termed "flow".  I can still feel the pain when something hurts
physically or emotionally – and sometimes the mind will try to hold
onto it for longer than it should, but at the end of the day, there
is always a smile in knowing that there is an unknown good that will
come out of it all.  This brings a deep peace.  A gratitude toward
life.  Maya or Lila, it is all a gift.

0-  Nice report.  You have always surrendered for the most part and your
journey has been smooth. May it continue to unfold in flow.


Love
Avlokita

Maha Shanti Om
Love & Light
       0

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Date: Sun Jun 4, 2006 6:31 pm
Subject: Healing and Update
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Namaste,

It has been awhile since I have visited the healing group, so I
thought I would give my update here.

Ever since I was born, I have had a reverse curve in my neck.  The
doctors call it a "Reverse C curve".   A little over a year ago I
was told if it didn't get corrected soon, I would have arthritis
problems at the age of 30.  After a year of spontaneous movements of
turning my head side to side, and back and forth, it turns out that
it has corrected itself.  I went into the chiropractors office and
he said that it is perfect, could never tell it had been abnormal.
So, for all those out there that are getting tired of all the
spontaneous yoga moves – keep on doing them with a heart of
thankfulness because it is probably clearing out something that you
don't want to have to deal with later down the road.!  =)

As for any questions, there are none.  I must say that much can be
seen in reasons why things are the way they are.  I have found that
for everything that happens, whether perceived as good or bad – it
turns out for the best.  Swami I can't explain it…I guess it is
termed "flow".  I can still feel the pain when something hurts
physically or emotionally – and sometimes the mind will try to hold
onto it for longer than it should, but at the end of the day, there
is always a smile in knowing that there is an unknown good that will
come out of it all.  This brings a deep peace.  A gratitude toward
life.  Maya or Lila, it is all a gift.

Love
Avlokita

#143 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:25 pm
Subject: RE: distance healing in meditation
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Namaste,

Namaste and OM

*          You were definately right on this.... i contacted the people this
happened to (It has happened a couple time with different people), and told
them what had happened.  One was furious and said i should know better - the
other one thinks its GREAT and to keep it up.  So, the next time someone
crosses my mind in meditation, i will sit on my hands unless i have it in
writing that it is ok!!!

G     even though one thinks that everyone wants healing or energy sent
thier way as you
see this is not always true .....  Plus as stated before you can take on
unnecessary karma
in doing so ......

Om,
Avlokita

Maha Shanti Om
            0

#142 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:45 am
Subject: RE: Distance Healing with 0-point Balance
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Namaste Swamiji,

Namaste and OM

*      I had a couple of minutes to myself this afternoon and decided to
close my eyes for a quick meditation.  immeditately someone came to
mind, and i could see a light body in my vision.  when this happened,
i started having energy work kriyas...my hands were balancing chakras
(like you showed me) to the air infront of me.  Is this how distance
healing takes place?  does it really work?  especially when the person
is not notified that it will be taking place?

G   it can Yes ....  but one should ALWAYS have their permission First so
that
you don't disturb their freewill or what might be of benefit for them to go
through ......
if they choose to opt out on their own then no harm no foul .......

Love and Om
Avlokita

#141 From: "krissyleo" <krissykaram@...>
Date: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:00 pm
Subject: Distance Healing with 0-point Balance
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Namaste Swamiji,

I had a couple of minutes to myself this afternoon and decided to
close my eyes for a quick meditation.  immeditately someone came to
mind, and i could see a light body in my vision.  when this happened,
i started having energy work kriyas...my hands were balancing chakras
(like you showed me) to the air infront of me.  Is this how distance
healing takes place?  does it really work?  especially when the person
is not notified that it will be taking place?

Love and Om
Avlokita

#140 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:09 pm
Subject: RE: silence and energy work
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Namaste Guruji!

Namaste and OM

*      How's my favourite (and only) guru doing, have you and your wild do..
found a good place to stay with a view over the lake?

G     no view of the lake but a view of the garden ....  so yes did find a
very nice place and the wild dogs are loving it ....   they just went out
for their morning romp ....

*       There was this energy phenomena two weeks ago or so, and ever since,
silence is closer. After that, energy grew too, with new funny phenomena, hi
hi. Some days are fairly silent, others with more thoughts. If i just relax
silence comes, and it feels really good to hear the sounds of silence. It's
usually easy to go into different levels of meditation.

G     good now from silence to stillness ....

*       I am interested in learning 0-point healing if guru think it is
time. If so, i would appreciate very much to get an instruction when you
have the time. A question about the healing is whether it is just another
band aid that balances people for a while, or if it helps on a deeper level
too?

G    depends on the person being worked on ....  if they are on a Spiritual
path then things may be
released and perhaps they won't take them back ....    for others perhaps
their immeditate suffering will
be stopped for a time.....    as far as doing energy work simply do the
energy practice as given to amp up the flow ....   then go into a stilled
mind being aware of the breath and allow the hands to do what is needed....
   it will come spontaneously .....   if needed keep your Guru in your mind
and heart and simply allow the healing work to unfold ....




Love and light/Anshul

Maha Shanti OM
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#138 From: "G ....." <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:32 am
Subject: RE: Cancer and conditionings
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Namaste,

Namaste -

G   it is up to the Universe what total effect it has ...  how receptive he
is etc....
May the best he can accept come out of it .....


       maha shanti om
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I had to let you know that i began energy work on my granfather.  He
just turned 80 years old last Monday and the doctors think he has
cancer.  More tests are being done this week.  My mom said that the
energy work is having a profound effect on his outlook though.  he
is a deep believer of spiritual healing (though he is fundamental
christian--like everyone else in my family).  He has always suffered
from high blood pressure.  The other night he saw his blood pressure
drop 20 points after i did a quick round on him...hahaha he was SOLD
immediately.
I let him know that i couldn't turn back the hands of time, and i
couldn't stop death if it was meant to be...but that energy work
could ease the pain and make "letting go" an easier process.  I
think he still has his hopes that God can possibly erase the
cancer.  I have noticed that my hands move to the place where it is
located and they become extremely hot.
He has an extreme amount of mental conditioning about religion, and
he allows his emotions to control him...so i don't think he will be
joining my grandmother for shaktipat - but perhaps the energy work
can soften him for the next lifetime. =)

Love and Om,
Avlokita

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Date: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:12 pm
Subject: Cancer and conditionings
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Namaste,

I had to let you know that i began energy work on my granfather.  He
just turned 80 years old last Monday and the doctors think he has
cancer.  More tests are being done this week.  My mom said that the
energy work is having a profound effect on his outlook though.  he
is a deep believer of spiritual healing (though he is fundamental
christian--like everyone else in my family).  He has always suffered
from high blood pressure.  The other night he saw his blood pressure
drop 20 points after i did a quick round on him...hahaha he was SOLD
immediately.
I let him know that i couldn't turn back the hands of time, and i
couldn't stop death if it was meant to be...but that energy work
could ease the pain and make "letting go" an easier process.  I
think he still has his hopes that God can possibly erase the
cancer.  I have noticed that my hands move to the place where it is
located and they become extremely hot.
He has an extreme amount of mental conditioning about religion, and
he allows his emotions to control him...so i don't think he will be
joining my grandmother for shaktipat - but perhaps the energy work
can soften him for the next lifetime. =)

Love and Om,
Avlokita

#136 From: "G" <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:33 am
Subject: Letter 2 ( assumptions and chastisement) ?
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*  Thank you for your response, but I am unsure why you're assuming
that I'm looking for a "quick fix" or someone to do the work for
me.  I have been deeply involved in regression and self-work, as I
mentioned, for the last 9 months (in addition to other lifelong
spiritual work).  However, my goal is to actually solve this
problem, rather than to simply pay someone to keep manipulating my
energy or making me feel better in the short term while the root of
the issue goes unsolved.  That is why I'm looking for another
solution, as I said, that allows me to go deeper.

G  because you are asking how many sessions ?

* Again, I appreciate your quick response but I must say I am quite
uncomfortable with the assumptions you made about me and what I felt
to be your resulting chastisement.

G  you have not been chastised but have been given a totally
straight up reply ... in order to get Totally beyond it -------
start with Vipassana ...  energy work can also aide in it but is not
going to be a total cure by itself ...   in fact energy work and
Vipassana can awaken Kundalini which then brings up all the
repressed ideations to be seen and confronted and let go of once and
for all.....
If you happen to awaken Kundalini then you may contact me for
further aide...


Thanks anyway.
Chelsea

Thanks anyway ?  i pray you have eyes and ears to see that the
universe has brought the answer to your question...   maybe not the
way you want to have it ... but IF you Truly want to have it be at
an end ...   this is the way ... 9 months is nothing in the scheme
of things - my journey took over 30 + years in This lifetime and
many lifetimes of work before that ...  you have an opportunity to
finish it up in This lifetime IF you are willing to put forward
dedication and the effort to do so ....

Maha Shanti OM
0

(sometimes people see me as hard over the net ... am not really
so ... just am not the best at speaking like a social worker my
energy is rather cut and dried straight up to the point - perhaps to
direct for most as they prefer the words on a curve - softer)

Love & Light

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Date: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:16 am
Subject: Quick Fix
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Hi there,

I happened across your website while trying to locate a Cellular
Release Therapist in the Seattle area.  I have been doing past life
regresssion work for the last 9 months, initially due to severe
panic attacks I began to experience for the first time within the
last 2-3 years.  During this work, which has been extremely helpful,
I have made some progress with the anxiety, as well as other areas I
am working to address (smoking addiction, inability to let go,
inexplicable fears/phobias, etc.).  However, I am at a point where I
feel that the regression work isn't going as deep as I'd like and as
a result, I seem to be unable to fully release these problems from
my body and thus am still experiencing them.  I am also looking for
an effective healing solution that doesn't require ongoing, regular
sessions.

G   if you want a permanent cure then look deeper into doing self
work rather than looking for someone to do it for you the *easy*
way ....

A friend recommended I look into Cellular Release Therapy and/or
Reconnective Therapy.  I notice your website mentions Cellular
Release and Balance, and I have a couple of quick questions:

1.  Do you feel the type of healing you offer would be an effective
solution for my problem(s)?

G   do you want a Full solution for your problem ?  if so then i
suggest starting with a Vipassana course ....   first you have to
stop running and looking for a quick fix ....  then start to sit
with what is coming up until the root of it becomes clear ....   the
energy work also aides
in the process but don't expect the energy work to do it all *for*
you ....

2.  Approximately how many sessions do you feel would be necessary?

G   it is going to take more than a number of sessions ...  it takes
learning how to do Self Introspection - meditation - contemplation
etc...

3.  What are your session rates and approximately how long is each
session?

G   i am not your typical energy worker but rather a spiritual
guide, the energy work is a bonus
and aides you within your process and inner journey ....

4.  What can I expect from a Cellular Release and Balance session
with you?

G   depends on where you are in your journey - how open - how
receptive etc....

Thank you so much for your time!  I look forward to hearing from you.

G   rather than looking for a quick fix ...  this is an opportunity
to move forward to Liberation ...


Best,
Chelsea Jennings

Maha Shanti Om
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#134 From: "G" <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Fri Dec 9, 2005 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: Weird Kriya
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> Namaste Swami-G,

   Namaste -

*   My poor Gnya Monish has the same stomach flu i had.  I was doing
  energy work on him, and while i was in the middle of it my head
moved close to the area i was working at and i inhaled through the
mouth a deep breath and moved away and slowly exhaled.  Why would I
have the urge to do this?  was i inhaling bad, and exhaling it?

G:  sort of yes....  it is a shamanistic type technique .....

*     hahaha- i am sorry if this isn't part of 0 Point Balance....i
always end up doing spontaneously weird things in the middle of a
session.  I think it did something good though, because after i was
done, I felt his forehead and his fever seems to be gone. =)

G:    whatever comes up spontaneously then do it ... Shakti knows
what needs to be done....

       maha shanti om
       om namo narayan
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> Have a good night!
> Love,
> Avlokita
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Date: Fri Dec 9, 2005 3:13 am
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Namaste Swami-G,

My poor Gnya Monish has the same stomach flu i had.  I was doing
energy work on him, and while i was in the middle of it my head moved
close to the area i was working at and i inhaled through the mouth a
deep breath and moved away and slowly exhaled.  Why would I have the
urge to do this?  was i inhaling bad, and exhaling it?  hahaha- i am
sorry if this isn't part of 0 Point Balance....i always end up doing
spontaneously weird things in the middle of a session.  I think it did
something good though, because after i was done, I felt his forehead
and his fever seems to be gone. =)

Have a good night!
Love,
Avlokita

#132 From: "G" <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Thu Dec 1, 2005 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: How exactly does this work?
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  Namaste,

  Namaste

*    I hate to ask such a basic question, but how does 0-point
work?  I spoke with someone the other day that had doubts on energy
work theories.

G:   that is fine - let him have doubts ...  you are not there
to convince anyone of anything....

*     He wanted to know why all hurts can't be cured with just
  a touch...just as jesus did - if it is all the same energy.  i told
him that it depended on the amount of holdings are in conscousness
of the person receiving energy work.  he told me that is an easy out
for the practitioner.

G:   even Christ did not heal everyone he met Why because of their
unbelief ...   a Prophet is not honored in his own home town .. Why?
because of their unbelief ...   Why Why Why ...  Yes it can be done
so - instantly - at one point in the journey i did such things...
it is not impossible ...

*     I told him that i do think that the farther along the one
giving the energy is on the path, the more powerful the charge.  a
stilled mind is vital as well.  I guess he wanted to know why i
couldn't run out and heal the blind, deaf, and lepers
with a touch.

G:   to what end ?  the healing of the body is limited ...

*     he also wanted to know if i would be able to if i was
  realized. Also, he wanted to know why some things are supposedly
  curable (such as the common cold) through energy work, but things
  like HIV isn't when both are just viruses.  i found in this
  conversation that i have "theories" on how energy work works...but
  need a more solid understanding.

G:   all one needs to know is simply that it Does work ... the why's
and hows are not important ...  it is just more mental garbage ...
if he wants to know how tell him to study Quantum ...  that is
all...  Don't spend the time and energy with those who are wanting
iron clad proof Before anything is accepted ...
for those who are seeking no explaination is necessary for those who
are closed none would suffice ... that is all ...

     is he seeking Liberation or miracles ? the greatest miracle IS
Liberation ...

  In love,
  Avlokita

  Love and Light
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#131 From: "G" <crystalkundalini@...>
Date: Thu Dec 1, 2005 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: When to do energy work
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--- In 0-point@yahoogroups.com, "krissyleo" <krissykaram@h...> wrote:

  Namaste,

  Namaste and Om -

*   I just got off the phone with Champa who has returned from her
  trip.  She ran into a lady at a store the other day and seems to
  have found a connection with her.  The lady came over to her house
  and before you know it, she was giving off signals of possibly
being awakened.

G:   yes this happens ... the universe has a way of hooking people
up ....

*   Champa could sense it in her, and let the conversation
  evolve to the subject.  She wakes up in the kundalini hours in the
  morning and also has the "muscle spasms" similar to what shakti
does when releasing cellular memory.  Champa mentioned that it could
be a kundalini awakening and the lady had no clue what that meant.

G:   could be .... or could be change of life ...

*     she used to do some meditations but hasn't for quite some
time.  Anyhow, she expressed interest in receiving energy work the
next time i go to champa's.  What is the policy on this?  I would
like to be able to offer it to anyone, but i don't want to
complicate anything.

G:    if they ask it is fine...  perhaps we should make a paper
though that says what may take place...  such as bringing up
and releasing old toxic material ...  this will pass ...  etc...
or that with extended ongoing deep sessions it could awaken a
spiritual energy that then begins to move through the layers of
consciousness and cleanse the body system etc...  we don't do this
to scare people but to let them know that true healing comes when
all of the garbage is stripped bare and purged ...


*    Should i just do a chakra balancing and see how she reacts?

G:   a quick chakra balance is fine ...  or for someone that is not
ready for the whole enchilada just work on the head and the body but
don't spend to much time directly over the chakra areas if it is
stirring up to much for them ...

*    Michelle (suprisingly) is interested in recieving energy work
again too.  This is the girl that laid on the massage table shaking
and doing yoga for over an hour after i finished doing one round.  I
don't know if she is seeking a guru or not though--she doesn't give
a positive answer when asked.  Do i only offer this to her if she
takes diksha?

G:   just tell her it is Greatly Advised ...  it is Best to have a
foundation in place Before really diving in ...  but it is her
choice...   i just don't enjoy having to go in later when someone
becomes extremely unbalanced due to ignorance and not having a clue
as to what is harmful versus what is of benefit ...

*     Hahaha i have to admit that people that are awakened are
attracted to Shirlene like a magnet. She finds awakened people
everywhere!   I can see that the universe is using her to seek out
people who need help =)

G:   this is happening more and more ...  was contacted by someone
else that is having the same phenomena ...

  Om,
  Avlokita
>
  Maha shanti om
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#130 From: "krissyleo" <krissykaram@...>
Date: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:52 pm
Subject: How exactly does this work?
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Namaste,

I hate to ask such a basic question, but how does 0-point work?  I
spoke with someone the other day that had doubts on energy work
theories.  He wanted to know why all hurts can't be cured with just
a touch...just as jesus did - if it is all the same energy.  i told
him that it depended on the amount of holdings are in conscousness
of the person receiving energy work.  he told me that is an easy out
for the practitioner.  I told him that i do think that the farther
along the one giving the energy is on the path, the more powerful
the charge.  a stilled mind is vital as well.  I guess he wanted to
know why i couldn't run out and heal the blind, deaf, and lepers
with a touch.  he also wanted to know if i would be able to if i was
realized. Also, he wanted to know why some things are supposedly
curable (such as the common cold) through energy work, but things
like HIV isn't when both are just viruses.  i found in this
conversation that i have "theories" on how energy work works...but
need a more solid understanding.

In love,
Avlokita

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