* I have my answer, you don't have yours yet.

g: oh yes ----- i do have an answer .... and not one that
> has been purchased to be hung on a wall ......

* Answers are not purchased, unless you were asking the
wrong question.

G: people that purchase Reiki attunements -- are the ones that
were seeking those answers .....

>
* ...He set out to discover and experience what he needed.
On part of his journey he found what h/we call Reiki healing.

> >G: what he found (?) he did palm healing but the most
> >important part was the spiritual aspect ......


* He set out to discover what HE needed, not what you might
need.

G: what HE was teaching is NOT what is being given in modern
Reiki courses and attunements .....

i am not looking for anything ..... but have worked with many
from Reiki traditions ---



g: energetic healing has been a part of many many traditions
down through the centuries ...

* and for many is and was the first step on their spiritual
journey

G: it is only a start ...... when you are starting you can't be a
Master ...... and yet it is sold and purchased at a price without
checking for Where the Consciousness and Wisdom is of the
one seeking to purchase ......


* you cannot bring spirituality to people, it is something
each individual has to find.

G: yes ..... but it WAS the Large part of the Original system ....
and indeed this is the way i teach .... not simply teaching how to
feel energy or how to project it ...... nor how to open up psychic
pathways ..... it is about moving forward in your Journey to Self
Discovery .... this takes Knowing how to move through
Meditation and Contemplation ...... and what to do with a
Kundalini Awakening ------- as this is a Real Possibility in ANY
Energy tradition ...... i work with the casualties who have
awakened Kundalini without the proper knowledge or
foundations in place ......


>
* You are a Master, when you have learned and practised
> >enough that you have something which others can only learn
> >from you.
> >
> >G: when one has Completed the Inner Journey ----- when
they have gone beyond the divisionary world and rest in Total
> > Balance living within the Reality of Absolute or being a
> > Liberated One ----- Then they are a Master .....
> > This takes going through all the layers of consciousness
and the resulting phenomena along the way ...

* and if consciousness is an illusion, you are chasing wild
geese.

G: it isn't consciousness that is the illusion ...... it is the
attachment to divisionary exerience ..... it is an attachment to a
form that thinks itself to be something separate and fears death
... this is the illusion..... these are the wild geese that runs
peoples lives....... the conditioned self .....


* There are many ways to be enlightened. Being a Master is
not a finite state.

G: then you don't understand what is meant by being a
Master...... One is either Enlightened and beyond suffering self
or they are still in the search and having insights which seem to
be enlightening in nature ..... yet this is not Enlightenment UNTIL
the limited self is swallowed up within the Unchanging Self ...


* If there is no more to learn there is no point in being. Even
the most enlightened will return to learn.

G: says whom ? Life is not point enough ? Enlightenment is
being beyond a suffering self ..... it is KNOWING 100% that
Unchanging Divine Essence which has been mistaken
for being either Outside somewhere or being the egoic me ....
it is neither ..... That is the end of the search ..... what you term
learning and Enlightenment is NOT Learned as it isn't a object it
is the ultimate Unchanging Perfection which by it's very nature
holds the laws of the Universe in place ..... Once this is Known
the rest falls away as relative is transient and ever in flux ......


* Only an arrogant person would think they had learned ALL
and they, by definition, have much to learn.

G: only one that is still seeking would make this statement.....
again it isn't about L-E-A-R-N-I-N-G ......... it is about going
Within ....... stripping bare the layers of collected learning and
holdings that keep the conditioned self on the wheel of
searching and suffering through Desire and aversion.....


* Everyone who teaches, learns. It is in fact the best way to
learn. Even God is still learning.

G: God is still learning ? if you are taking God to be a
limitational and divided self or force then yes you can say this ....
but that Absolute does not learn ----- it simply IS ......
Shakti or that which is within transient mind learns and evolves
...... that which is transient evolves ..... That which is
Unchanging simply is WHOLE as IS ..... this center or point of
Whole is the Divine SEED Essence of all ...... and yet they chase
the transient and know not nor seek that stilled Point that brings
with it the Wholeness which has ever been present and yet not
known ........ the transient journey and life experience attached to
a form has been taken to be the light .... so they learn .....
and yet no matter how much learning they encounter or gather a
Lasting Peace is not entered ..... WHY ? because they are to
busy learning --- covering over ---- looking for more bigger and
better phenomena ----- or bigger better self ...... a happier me
story .....

>
g: ...without in depth ongoing training through the levels and
layers of consciousness to the Light beyond Lights...

* but there is no way to train for what one has to experience
oneself. You cannot train me up to enlightenment level.

G: One that KNOWS the way there can be a guide ..... they
know what works and what is a blind alley ..... they have the
tools which may be given and the wisdom and insight to say let it
go or persevere ....... for they know the rocky terrain along the
way ...... most that have entered Realization have gone through
the dark night of the soul ...... through the phenomena and
powers .... have gone beyond the suffering persona and have
come out into the Light of Freedom .....


* I have to find my own way there. There may be things that I
can learn from you that help me up a rung, but whatever you
have to teach is what you had to learn and I might not need to
know.

G: it is true that you must walk the journey for yourself ...... No
one can do it For you ...... but when you do not know the way you
stumble along blindly ...... If One is in Realization then they
have gone the Whole of the journey ..... through the suffering ----
the pain ---- the illusions --- the powers ---- the knowledge (yes
during one point in the path it IS possible to Know whatever one
desires within the transient realms ) but this access to
knowledge is not always wisdom nor is it liberating or freeing ....
while looking for a teacher in transient realm affairs then yes
what they have to teach you may not need to know ..... for it
comes out of their limited experience of gathered facts - figures -
skewed by their conditioned life views ..... but a Sat Guru (a
Realized Being ) (a Buddha (awakened one) has gone beyond
the transient gatherings and they then see clearly without
obstructions as to where the path to liberation runs ......


>
> >... When Self is Known ---- When Absolute is entered .....
> > Then is the end of the search and Mastership is entered

* if the search is ended there is no purpose to your existence.
I can't face Eternity with nothing to do, so I will always find
something that needs a bit of TLC or gives me some excitement

G: as long as there is a *me* that needs to seek excitement as
a way to be contented for a short time ---- then yes it is
understood why this isn't understood or why it is feared ..... .
Before Realization one exists ----- grasping at life and objects -
persons - etc. in order to fill the holes of the conditioned self ....

Does a rose have to be seeking and searching to have value ?
or is it's Fragrance Lovely simply because it IS ......

one doesn't die when there is no longer a search ..... what
dies is the illusion and fear of death ..... for death has lost it's
sting ..... suffering has ended ..... one is no longer driven or
pulled to obtain ....... there is the hard won Pearl of Great Price
.... Peace ..... one finally begins to Live .... Life for it's own sake
..... Compassion raises it's head ---- not empathy that is caught
in the same maelstrom of uncertainty.....

After Realization whatever comes is new and fresh ..... just
looking at a tree and there is Bliss for the moving leaves are part
of your being ..... it is felt ..... cognised and fully experienced in
delight ...... passing traffic's sounds resonate throughout all the
celluar structure like a song ...... do you think this is boring ?

whatever purpose needs to take place simply does .... one is
within the flow of the universe ..... there is no separation.....

all of these exchanges have been simply to say there is so
much More that is beneath the surface ---- it is much more than
attunements & symbols ..... find a living Master (that is
Realized) and go deeper .... go towards Liberation .....

>
> love
> C

Love - Light - Great Peace & IS
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