Namaste, This is a skype conversation with Gunther and GuruJI, typing
and some comments by Tanmay

Ron 8/20/06 11:10 PM
OK , here is Gunther
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:11 PM
Namaste and Maha Shanti OM
Ron 8/20/06 11:11 PM
I am typeing for him because he cant type
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:11 PM
hahahahahaha ok that is fine
Ron 8/20/06 11:11 PM
He says namaste
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:11 PM
very good
8/20/06 11:11 PM
what are his questions
Ron 8/20/06 11:12 PM
I am working through a mountain of karna here, connected with an
inheritance
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:12 PM
ok
8/20/06 11:12 PM
and ?
Ron 8/20/06 11:12 PM
He is asking if you feel if I could suceed
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:12 PM
hahahahahahah tell him i am a Guru not a psychic
8/20/06 11:13 PM
and what is to succeed with it ?
8/20/06 11:13 PM
Just trust the Universe to bring forward what is the best in your
situation .
Ron 8/20/06 11:13 PM
how to mantain inner silence while do this work
8/20/06 11:13 PM
*doing
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:14 PM
Sometimes gaining money or property etc. is not always the best thing -
8/20/06 11:14 PM
By staying in the moment - do what you can do and then Surrender the
results
8/20/06 11:14 PM
It May be best for your growth to gain the inheratence and then it
might not -
8/20/06 11:15 PM
Just Trust that whatever comes or doesn't will aide you on your path -
Ron 8/20/06 11:15 PM
is that money not good money and that is why it is so difficult to get
it? but again that is a question for a psychic
8/20/06 11:16 PM
How to stay more in the moment?
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:16 PM
Once on the path Sincerely Ma Kali or the Universal Grace will give
what is best - and will withold what is not for our best interest -
although we may not understand it at the time
8/20/06 11:16 PM
Teach him the balanced breath
Ron 8/20/06 11:17 PM
ok
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:17 PM
and stay in Simplicity -
Ron 8/20/06 11:17 PM
ok
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:17 PM
Do ONE thing at a time within the mind of Sacredness
8/20/06 11:17 PM
let each moment - each breath - each undertaking be used for Seva
Ron 8/20/06 11:17 PM
Thank you for the teaching
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:17 PM
whether Seva for Guru - God - or Humanity it is ONE and the same
8/20/06 11:18 PM
you are most welcome
8/20/06 11:18 PM
have Gratitude for what is given and what is not given -
Ron 8/20/06 11:18 PM
ok, that is all from him- he is very appreciative
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:18 PM
i hope this sheds some light
Ron 8/20/06 11:19 PM
He said yes
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:19 PM
more than likely he would rather hear a Yes you are going to come out
on top with this - or simply a direct no - hahahahahahahahah
8/20/06 11:19 PM
but within the whole of the process it will be a learning experience to
transit
8/20/06 11:20 PM
that is all
8/20/06 11:20 PM
OM
Ron 8/20/06 11:20 PM
OM
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:20 PM
he of course is most welcome to come to india -
8/20/06 11:21 PM
Maha Shanti OM
Ron 8/20/06 11:21 PM
He is asking for the blessings so he can return quickly
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:21 PM
Yes of Course - Surrender within the Heart - get out of the way - and
Grace will take place
8/20/06 11:22 PM
accept what comes with JOY - no matter the outcome it will be for his
Benefit
Ron 8/20/06 11:23 PM
ok, i think the breath techniques will be helpfull for him, keeping him
in the present
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:24 PM
and when mind arises say Stop in this moment the ONLY thing that is
happening is _ then state what is taking place NOW without the
attachment of drama
8/20/06 11:25 PM
Like the old dragnet dective used to say - Just the facts mam - nothing
but the facts.
Ron 8/20/06 11:25 PM
hahahhaah
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:25 PM
don't color it with the emotional baggage
8/20/06 11:25 PM
then do the breah and come back to center
8/20/06 11:27 PM
would tell him to start with OM but he might freak at this suggestion .
hahahahahah
Ron 8/20/06 11:27 PM
he is laughing lightly
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:27 PM
Oy Vey what to do Baba ?
8/20/06 11:28 PM
so just begin with the breath -
Ron 8/20/06 11:28 PM
I told him
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:28 PM
good
Ron 8/20/06 11:28 PM
it looks very right for the situation
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:28 PM
let me know how it progresses
Ron 8/20/06 11:28 PM
ok, he said
8/20/06 11:28 PM
Tanmays comment was second to last
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:28 PM
i will check in here in the morning and at Siddhanandas
Ron 8/20/06 11:29 PM
hahaha
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:29 PM
very good
Ron 8/20/06 11:29 PM
he is asking how you do the OM
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:29 PM
i figured that was a Tanmay comment
Ron 8/20/06 11:29 PM
hahahahah
8/20/06 11:29 PM
last is his
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:29 PM
OOOOHHHHHHH OOOOOOOOOOO MMMMMMMMMMM
Ron 8/20/06 11:29 PM
hahahahahhaha
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:29 PM
MMMMMM should resonate the top of the crown -
Ron 8/20/06 11:30 PM
he is asking - is it combined with the breathing or is it seperate?
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:30 PM
of course he might wait on this as doing it in the TM house might cause
a great uproar
8/20/06 11:30 PM
hahahahahahahaha
8/20/06 11:31 PM
separate - do the balanced breath - when that is steady then one can do
the Om
Ron 8/20/06 11:31 PM
he said ok
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:31 PM
when it is not possible to do the OM out loud stick with the balanced
breath
Ron 8/20/06 11:31 PM
he is asking- Oh, you do it out loud?
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:32 PM
no need to upset the TM flock that thinks OM will cause them to lose all
8/20/06 11:32 PM
Yes -
8/20/06 11:32 PM
it sets up a vibrational pattern within
8/20/06 11:33 PM
it also aides one to go into deeper meditation as all sounds carry
within them the inherant sound of OM
Ron 8/20/06 11:33 PM
he asks- and then after doing it outloud for some time, do it silenty?
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:33 PM
so one then begins to hear OM in every sound - and then rather than
fighting sound while meditating the sound draws you even deep in .
8/20/06 11:33 PM
one could do that -
8/20/06 11:34 PM
but silence is always great for the breath -
Ron 8/20/06 11:34 PM
He said I have to find a sunny day and a tree under which i can do the
OM
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:34 PM
and seeing from stillness
8/20/06 11:34 PM
hahahahahahaha OM works just as well in open spaces on cloudy days
8/20/06 11:35 PM
we can cover seeing from stillness later - let's see how he does with
these first instructions
Ron 8/20/06 11:35 PM
ok, he said
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:36 PM
now that will be $3,000 dollars - hahahahahahahahahaha
Ron 8/20/06 11:36 PM
hahahahhaha
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:36 PM
tell him to Relax - the more one relaxes the quicker one progresses
Ron 8/20/06 11:36 PM
He is asking if he should ask me ( tanmay ) to lend him some money
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:36 PM
and just kidding about the money
8/20/06 11:37 PM
hahahahahaha whatever works
Ron 8/20/06 11:37 PM
he is laughing
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:37 PM
let's see how he progresses
Ron 8/20/06 11:38 PM
ok
8/20/06 11:38 PM
OM
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:38 PM
work on the balanced breath now
8/20/06 11:38 PM
let me know how that goes
8/20/06 11:39 PM
make sure to relax enough that the stomach moves with the breath
Ron 8/20/06 11:39 PM
I will write in as he has comments , and we will wait for the response-
he just said some fear is coming up
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:39 PM
ah yes that happens
8/20/06 11:39 PM
rather than labling it fear see it and watch it as simply an energy
change in the body
8/20/06 11:40 PM
now what happens ?
8/20/06 11:40 PM
don't resist it - and there will be a doorway through it
Ron 8/20/06 11:40 PM
he said it is geting lighter
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:40 PM
Yes very good
8/20/06 11:40 PM
so this is the way it is done
8/20/06 11:40 PM
Watch it with dispassion - keep breathing - don't resist
8/20/06 11:41 PM
it is transient and will pass as all emotions and phenomena in the
transient world passes
8/20/06 11:42 PM
the more one can relax into it - rather than resisting and tensing up
the quicker the doorway will be found through
Ron 8/20/06 11:42 PM
he said it is geting lighter
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:42 PM
very good
8/20/06 11:43 PM
one can do this and simply sit watching within - and allow the sludge
to process out -
8/20/06 11:43 PM
all the repressed things will emmerge to be swept away
8/20/06 11:43 PM
cellular memories etc.
8/20/06 11:43 PM
until one gets to the point of seeing nothing but energy
8/20/06 11:43 PM
and then one goes even beyond that
Ron 8/20/06 11:44 PM
he said he feels the spine is more heating up
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:44 PM
as it comes up keep coming back to make sure the breath is balanced
8/20/06 11:44 PM
hahahahahahaah ah Kundalini
8/20/06 11:45 PM
Kali arises and makes an appearance
8/20/06 11:45 PM
very good
Ron 8/20/06 11:45 PM
again a little fear is coming up but slight
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:45 PM
now he can do OM within and then back to the breath and watching
Ron 8/20/06 11:46 PM
he said I dont understand
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:46 PM
say OM silently within -
Ron 8/20/06 11:47 PM
he is doing it
8/20/06 11:47 PM
he said it is very relaxing
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:47 PM
then breath into the point of fear as it rises - relax - simply witness
8/20/06 11:47 PM
there is a doorway through it
Ron 8/20/06 11:48 PM
he seems to be gone- hahahahahaha
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:48 PM
i know it's not TM but hey what can i do - i'm only a simple swami -
hahahahahahahah
Ron 8/20/06 11:48 PM
he asks- when to come back to the breath?
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:48 PM
NOW
8/20/06 11:49 PM
every time - keeps bringing one back to center
8/20/06 11:49 PM
then again open and scan - same process -
8/20/06 11:49 PM
very simple
Ron 8/20/06 11:50 PM
he asks- should he continue with the breath or with OM?
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:50 PM
the breath -
Ron 8/20/06 11:51 PM
Tonight - he asks ( but it is already 12 am)
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:51 PM
Om when mind rises -
8/20/06 11:51 PM
go rest -
Ron 8/20/06 11:51 PM
ok. OM
8/20/06 11:51 PM
He said Pranam
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:51 PM
if you can print this out later and then he can keep it as instructions
8/20/06 11:51 PM
OM
8/20/06 11:51 PM
Maha Shanti OM
8/20/06 11:52 PM
have a great rest
Ron 8/20/06 11:52 PM
ok, I can also post it?
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:52 PM
Yes will post it
Ron 8/20/06 11:52 PM
ok, OM
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:52 PM
this is fine
Ron 8/20/06 11:52 PM
ok, Namaste
Swami-G 8/20/06 11:52 PM
go ahead and post as this is a good one for those wanting to move
forward
8/20/06 11:53 PM
Namaste
Ron 8/20/06 11:53 PM
ok, I will on all the groups
8/20/06 11:53 PM
OM
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