Namaste, names have been removed- I sent this letter to swami G, and it was
commented on:

*In answer to your last letter, which is both from beginning to end with
errors.

G ah beginning to end with errors ? i see he hasn't bothered to go into any of
the so called
errors .

* First I answer about 200 letters a week. This is from a mailing list of about
80,000 people, which I have accumulated over 20 years as a writer who publishes
books about the brain.

G well this must mean he is some type of expert. implication is quite blatant.

* These writers include people who are interested in flotation tanks and
sensory deprivation (because of my book The Book of Floating: Exploring the
Private Sea, which won numerous awards, including kudos from the head of the
neuroscience department at Massachusetts Institute of Technology).

G again you should fall on your knees in rapt awe. and so he doesn't see
himself as greater
than anyone else ? then why bring this up again and again as to his attainments
within an
academic world.

* It talks about what happens in the brain under conditions of sensory
deprivation and to meet two years of living in poverty to do the necessary
research -- interviewing neuroscientists, traveling to the float laboratories,
reading every available article on floating and so on.

G so fine he did compilations of past works and some interviews -

* I just wrote a new addition of that which came out last January -- my first
experience in writing books with no hands speaking into a voice activated
computer system.

G again you should be impressed that he carries on even with his disability.

* The greatest amount of my letters that I answer come from readers of my
best-selling book

G yes make sure it is understood that it is a Best Seller. again make sure you
are duly impressed.

* Megabrain (1986, with updated and revised editions in 1987, 1991, 1999 and
2004). For this book I conducted workshops all over the world, in whatever
countries where translations were published, including France, Spain, South
America, Germany, Denmark, Japan, China, Taiwan, Romania and elsewhere. For
these workshops I accepted airline tickets and lodgings but accepted no money as
I felt it was my duty to spread the word about these techniques for attaining
higher states of consciousness.

G and ? am sure he was poverty stricken with the best sellers and updates for
how many years. ?
again you should be impressed that he didn't charge for speading his fame in
workshops.

* I have written other books and was writing a book about scientific research
into attaining peak performance, for which I did interviews with B-2 fighter
bombers (who are required to do extreme multitasking and whose brains function
at a very high level), mountain climbers, chess players, rock climbers, quantum
physicists, psychopharmacologists and many other scientists and peak performers.

G how about those who have gone beyond being in a peak performance in the world
of doership?
How about a study of those who have gone beyond mind ? i participated in a
study with a man
very well known that writes biofeedback programs that are being used by doctors
to rewire brains.
he monitored me with biofeedback and also eeg. was able to enter deep sleep
beyond dreaming state at will. this frightened him as he could not understand
anyone being able to enter this
type of state at will. Maybe rather than looking at peak performers in the
mental realm and physical side of things a study of the difference between
Realized and those within Non duality versus those
within mental focus would be of better value.

* This book was halfway done when my house burned down burning on my computer,
my hard drive, all my backup disks over 60 notebooks of interviews with
scientists and other peak performers, over 30 of my own personal notebook kept
over most of my life. I almost died from smoke inhalation when I tried to call
into my office to save my computer. The firemen were only able to save me
because they had recently acquired an infrared device that allowed them to see
me through the dense black smoke. My lungs were almost gone and I was in
intensive care for almost a month.

G feel sorry for him - so much work lost. man does this guy like to play the
heart strings.

* Once I got out of the hospital I began trying to one again (I am a dedicated
runner and used to run in many marathons -- I'm also a mountain climber and or
climber, or was before I became a quadriplegic.

G and ?

* I fell off a bridge 38 feet onto a formation of boulders and broke my
cervical vertebrae C2 C3 C4 C5 C6 C7 and T1, and I ended up in the icy water
where I died for approximately 10 to 15 minutes (the rescue team thought that
the icy water may have lowered my brain temperature so much that it kept me from
brain damage). During that time I was dead I became one with the Void (I can't
say I experienced it, because there was no one there to experience it, since
Mike was dead) and when I was dead I somehow became filled with the awareness of
many things, including the Oneness of all, the fact that this void or emptiness
or total stillness or pure silence had in fact been with me all my life. This of
course was not my enlightenment but a prepared me to become totally empty and
totally one with all that is.

G and this was in the original posting -

* During the two years I spent completely paralyzed from the neck down with my
chin forcibly facing the ceiling because of a whole body brace I had to wear.
During that period I had literally thousands of hours that I staring at that
blank ceiling. The doctors told me I would never be able to walk or move again.
I was filled with determination to become a runner again. And almost immediately
after the brace was removed I secretly began walking around my room, and then
began walking out into the hallway. At that point the nurses confined me to bed
claiming that the doctors report on me stated that I was unable to get out of
bed! I finally was able to get out and ultimately learned to like a normal human
and even to run. But during the years I spent staring at the ceiling I had a
breakthrough which I will describe in detail in my next book, and which is
briefly described in my Thom Hartmann interview.

G it will be an extended narrative but was in the original story.

* In any case, I have never claimed to be a guru to anyone.

G claims mean nothing against what is being done - collecting followers as he
is so want to point
out - means he is acting as a Teacher as a Guru. the only difference is perhaps
he is not dedicated
to aiding them the whole way to realization.

* Of all the letters that I send out each day and all the people who have
responded powerfully to my spiritual awakening I have never charged a single
cent or received the gift of a single cent (people have offered me over $1000 to
spend weekends with them in teachings and I have done the teachings but I had
not taken a single cent). Ask your guru if she has ever taken a single cent
for a so-called teachings

G i don't charge for the teachings.

* I live in a tiny broken down adobe hut in the area of town that has the
highest level of murders per capita and I have no income accident my Social
Security disability. None of the clothes I wear are mine -- they had been
donated to me by an Episcopalian church in town (which I do not attend). None of
the furniture in my house is mine -- it is all second hand and third hand,
donated by members of the church. I have absolutely no assets except for a total
of eight dollars presently in the bank.

G again you should be duly impressed.

* Ask your guru if she has never taken any money for her so-called teachings.
Ask her if the only clothes she has our second and third and castoffs.

G i was in the military and live on my compensation. i don't live off of
sadhakas.

* Ask her if she ever received any money for travel. My guess is she will
answer yes because that is what she is in it for.

G excuse me ? that is what i am in it for ? guess that must reflect on him
being that he openly
receives money for travel ....

* She may give you some bogus answer about needing the money to continue her
supposedly important teaching.

G Wow - this guy is really sarcastic.

* But if she were truly enlightened she would accept no money -- I mean
absolutely NO money. Maharishi spent nearly 20 years living in a cave with
virtually no possessions.

G he didn't live 20 years in a cave - Maharishi while not personally accepting
monies in fact
Did have monies donated - seekers fed him - housed him - built an ashram - gave
enough furnds to feed sadhakas that came -

* As your guru ever spent any years living in total poverty and isolation? I'm
sure the answer is no.

G as a matter of fact Yes i did live in a hut in india - lived in poverty most
of my life. he is sure
of facts that he knows nothing about. why is this guy so pissed - arrogant -
and sarcastically
ignorant.

* In listing her so-called lineage she gives herself up as one of those nasty
clique of liars who associate themselves with Poonjaji.

G no i don't - have never been with poonjaji although yes one of my Guru's was
with papaji.
Wow a nasty clique of liars ? now he is bordering on slander. am sure his
followers are very
proud of his making up facts to suit his purpose.

* He was in the habit of telling people who had come to listen to him that they
were "enlightened" and hug them.

G well i don't ..... none are proclaimed enlightened until they are stable - i
don't agree with
poonjaji's way of declaring enlightenment at the first taste of a sarvikalpa
samadhi.

* Westerners who came to visit him, one of the first of them that character who
started WIE (What Is Enlightenment?) Magazine.

G if one wants to know Andrew Cohens attainment just read the interview that
Cohen had with
Aja - Aja is fully realized and Andrew Cohen could barely follow what he was
saying. Aja wound
up turning the interview around where Cohen revealed his failings and
ignorance.

* One after another rich Westerners would come trotting to sit at the feet of
Poonjaji and they would invariably be told when the time came for them to the
that they were "enlightened" and it was their duty to spread the message
throughout the world.

G this has nothing to do with me. my path was 30 + years of internal search.
this had Nothing to
do with Poonjaji. And if he wants to castrate me because one of my Guru's
happened to have
been with Poonjaji then go ahead - but this is his ignorance. This Guru was
also taught by 3 tantric masters - and NO it had nothing to do with sex.

* By this of course he didn't mean that they truly "got it" and were truly
Enlightened.

G and who says they are ? again he is making VAST and Totally off the wall
wrong assumptions.
would be nice IF he would have had the balls to ask me before going off on this
wild goose chase.
Of course it is much easier to make assumptions and attempt to denigrate
someone rather than
finding out the truth of the matter. For someone that Prides themselves on all
their research
What would have happened if he wrote his book based on ASSumptions - he would
have
gotten sued.

* It was just his way of giving them good wishes and telling them to spread the
word.

G yes this was the case - they were supposed to give Satsangs and then point
them in the
direction of Papaji. Again what has this to do with me ? absolutely Nothing. or
is this a
case of Guilty by inference.

* All these people came back to the west declaring themselves to be fully
enlightened beings in the lineage of poonjaji.

G again this has absolutely Nothing to do with here. What is taught here is the
path through Kundalini. i am not a neo advaita satsang giver. Not only has he
built up a whole negative drama
built on ASSumptions - he doesn't have a clue as to what is given here or the
path being taught.

* Just as invariably they would go on the road to give workshops in
enlightenment -- excepting large sums of money in return. Look at the riches
with which gangagi surrounds herself in white silk and Peacock feathers and
people bring her gifts and flowers.

G again what has this to do with me ? i am not gangaji -

* Is this poverty? I'd like to see her try living in a cave for 20 years --
maybe then she would really "get it".

G he hasn't lived in a cave for 20 years - must mean he hasn't got it yet.
Guess that King Janaka
wasn't truly realized After all he ruled a kingdom - the Ashtavakra Gita must
all be a sham.
Money or no money does not guarantee enlightenment - it is not the good
housekeeping seal of
authenticity in Spirituality. Vairagya does not mean throwing away - If there
is money Fine and if
there is not Fine. Can see that he has another skewed view about spiritual
attainment and the
world ... what about Yogananada ? must have been another con artist ... Rama
came from Royalty
must also have been deluded. after all he didn't live in a cave and he was
married ...

* Once you get it you realize that you are not that doer -- whatever is done is
done through you by God, by the One -- and therefore you have Nothing to do,
except be in Oneness with pure being.

G AND ? so why is he flapping his gums ? why is he touring ? he is doing more
than
sitting in a cave.

* Look at the lilies of the field (I'm not quoting here)

G then use another description.

* do they worry about what kind of clothes they wear, about how they make their
lives, about how rich they are, about how enlightened day are?

G they don't wear clothes. but be that as it may - what has this to do with the
conversation ?

* Obviously not. That seems more to describe your so-called guru.

G oh really ? how would he know ? he is much more worried about clothes what he
wears versus what anyone else wears - i don't give a thought it it. i get up and
throw something on. and ?

* As I said I had never proclaimed myself a guru and had never proclaimed
myself anything -- I am Nothing.

G hahahahahah read all of the opening - claim after claim after claim -

* What bliss, what never ending bliss to live in the Void and in this world As
It Is (not as your ego believes it to be).

G and is he saying anything new ?

* I have an ego and it comes out from time to time but most of the time I must
say that about 20 hours of the day I am in bliss and in the bliss of
enlightenment.

G if it comes and goes it Isn't Enlightenment - Realization doesn't come and go
- mind comes and goes. a mental projection comes and goes.

* It never comes and never goes is just there.

G if ego is coming and going then Realization is not steady - and the same game
is being played
that he is accusing Papaji's people of.

* It's just there for everyone.

G it is there yet for most of the populace it is covered over.

* And people who call themselves guru seemed to think that they are better than
other people.

G no we Know that all have that same essence - it is the one that has some
gripe about guru's
that puts the division in place. Don't tell me what i think or don't think - he
has NO idea he has a very skewed ASSumption.

* No one is better than anyone else, we are all God or the One.

G then why is he making all the put downs ? making assumptions ? i Know there
is no one
higher or lower -

* There is no good or evil.

G not within Reality - in duality as long as minds are locked in it then they
will process as
good and evil ....

* As God said had in the Bible, "God does not create good and gun does not
create evil."

G there is no quote or bible passage that says this - so that Quotations are
based upon
another of his created facts to fit the need. But this is true as even Satan
that the world
sees as the personification of evil was created as the Head of the Heavenly
Choir.
Satan though sought recognition for himself and fell into duality - ego - .

* Even Hitler was the One (as Ramana repeatedly pointed out -- though this is
not often quoted in is selected writings, few of which have been published and
most of which would blow the minds of these wacky self-proclaimed gurus.

G who is self proclaimed ? you mean self proclaimed like wacky Ramana ... does
he not see
that his arguments fall in on themselves - he disparages and then uses Ramanas
words but only those who enhance his failed arguments. Ramana himself said that
those who are not realized Need a Guru. Hello - wake up and smell the Ramana.

* This returns us to the beginning of our correspondent where you, I thought
tongue-in-cheek -- thinking you may be to be one of the readers of my other
books -- asked me to say something and I recounted the story of Meister Eckardt.

G i see - so you weren't one of his avid followers hanging on his every word.

* He was a truly enlightened being, and the truth of his statement, which I
made to you in my very first e-mail, is that there is no good and there is no
legal -- as he said, if it has been done, then it is done by God.

G and yet in his first mail he said my words were the same as Eckardt but his
problem was
in my using of Sanskrit terms .. What happened ? he has no continuity -

* The only way to ever attain enlightenment is yourself (like Maharishi and so
many others) not listening to some other person tell you something that they
believe to be the truth.

G right so you should think about not listening to this guy and maybe all his
followers should get
a clue.

* If you persist in calling this guru I can tell you right now that you will
end up -- whether now or 50 years down the road -- disappointed in her.

G really - here he has gotten massive changes in consciousness and from mr.
sarcastic all
he has gotten is a load of nonsense based upon Assumption and projection. So
maybe
these buttons about Guru's - Papaji - Sanskrit should be delved into in order
that one doesn't
continue to have baseless Reactions.

* But oh well, everything in this world and all other worlds is perfect so she
could go down whenever erroneous path she desires.

G yes the erroneous path has taken this one to Realization - to where the
conditioned mind
blew out - to where it is Peace that remains unchanging - to where persona
dissolved and
the mind attached to such blew away like dust in the wind .... all it is - is
dust in the wind.

All is well.

G if all was well - he wouldn't become incensed at the mention of a Guru.


*****

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